Dealing with Assholes!

  • sportsjockla

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    Jun 29, 2013 9:27 PM GMT
    I've got a situation where I believe a Senior is being abused. I've got other people watching to make sure we're not making false accusations, but my question is -

    Would you intervene if you saw someone being abuses? Would you think it was none of your business? Or what if it was a client being abused by caretaker?
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    Jun 29, 2013 9:29 PM GMT
    Intervene if you can.
  • Webster666

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    Jun 29, 2013 9:30 PM GMT
    Elder abuse is a crime that is taken very seriously.
    It should be reported, anonymously, if need be.

    Just imagine if the person you're talking about was your parent or grandparent. I'm sure you'd want it to be reported.
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    Jun 29, 2013 9:33 PM GMT
    In my country, I wouldn't intervene unless I am sure my health and safety is protected.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jun 29, 2013 9:39 PM GMT
    Either turn them in or beat them within an inch of their life and tell them not do to it again or next time you'll finish the job
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    Jun 29, 2013 9:41 PM GMT
    sportsjockla saidI've got a situation where I believe a Senior is being abused. I've got other people watching to make sure we're not making false accusations, but my question is -

    Would you intervene if you saw someone being abuses? Would you think it was none of your business? Or what if it was a client being abused by caretaker?
    What type of abuse? We need some context.
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    Jun 29, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
    Intervene!
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    Jun 29, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
    ihateyoutoo saidwell, i would say you HAVE to intervene ONLY if you can prove that there's abuse going on. don't know how you should go about it though.


    I think calling 911 is reasonable in this sense, isn't it? Inform them of what is happening and also record any piece of information such as car number.
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    Jun 29, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    ihateyoutoo said
    ricky1987 said
    ihateyoutoo saidwell, i would say you HAVE to intervene ONLY if you can prove that there's abuse going on. don't know how you should go about it though.


    I think calling 911 is reasonable in this sense, isn't it? Inform them of what is happening and also record any piece of information such as car number.


    but the op said that he suspects it although there's no real proof.


    Types of abuse
    Physical
    Emotional
    Financial
    Neglect

    Indicators of physical abuse
    Cuts and bruises
    Unexplained injuries
    Poor skin condition
    Burns

    Indicators of emotional abuse
    Helplessness
    Hesitation to talk openly
    Depression/Denial
    Fear
    Agitation

    Indicators of financial abuse
    Power of Attorney has been changed
    Lost jewelry or silverware
    Not having the funds for the necessaries of life
    Necessaries of life denied or not provided by the Power of Attorney
    Signing legal documents they do not understand

    Indicators of neglect
    Senior is inadequately clothed
    Senior is malnourished or dehydrated
    Senior has an untreated medical condition or injury
    History of accidents or injuries
    Caregiver is not meeting health care needs for the senior

    If you have noticed any of these indicator, you can call the general police line or a distress center listed in your phone book.
    Some cities also have a specific "hot line" to report or express concern regarding elder abuse, this is usually tied in with the police services.
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    Jun 29, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    I believe that it would be your civic duty & maybe even legal obligation to report suspected abuse.

    Here's for when it occurs in a care facility

    http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/bmfea/yld_text.pdf
    "Failure to report elder or dependent adult abuse in long-term health care facilities is a crime."

    Outside of a facility I'm 99% sure you'd have a state statue for reporting abuse to children and I'm 98% sure you'd have one for elders too. Googling now to see if I can find that.

    EDIT:

    Here's one on reporting for financial abuse

    http://www.lacba.org/Files/LAL/Vol30No7/2417.pdf

    Edit again:

    Here ya go

    http://ag.ca.gov/bmfea/pdfs/citizens_guide.pdf
    Citizen's guide to reporting abuse

    It says in big yellow letters: IF YOU SUSPECT ABUSE, REPORT IT.
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    Jun 30, 2013 12:14 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidElder abuse is a crime that is taken very seriously.
    It should be reported, anonymously, if need be.



    And pronto. I think if you already have genuine suspicions this is going on you have a right to tell someone in authority about it.
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    Jun 30, 2013 12:22 AM GMT
    The phrase "that is none of my business" is puuurrrreeee evil.

    I've seen it come out of the mouths of the most amoral and manipulative of people as an excuse to justify them letting abuse go on, that or people just recommend a counsellor for the victims.

    I victim doesn't need a counsellor, what they need is protection and justice of the wrongs that have been done on them.

    An elderly man being bullied by an abusive nurse can be counselled for forever, but counselling won't be able to stop the abuse from continuing.

    Unfortunately we live in an amoral world were if you intervene, most likely you will be held accountable for anything you got involved in.

    I personally would like to be like dexter, tracking down ex nazi's and pedo priest's would've gotten away with their crimes and just anonymously killing them without anybody knowing that it was me.
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    Jun 30, 2013 6:45 AM GMT
    I would try to do the right thing even if it means being nosy or reporting someone for abuse, so yeah. You should only do it if you're very certain 100% of the abuse/treatment. Maybe you can report it anonymously.