My New SuperGod is the Quasar.

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    Jul 01, 2013 2:28 AM GMT
    I just finished watching a program on Black Holes.

    I collect notions of God.
    Some keep theology alive.
    Some keep atheism alive.

    The program just said and I'm going to qualify what they said: a spiral galaxy with a supermassive black hole in the middle are created from quasars. Eventually, there isn't enough gas to feed the quasar and the quasar's light diminishes. Our galaxy is old enough that it's quasar from the super massive black hole has gone down.

    So, another Creator-God has died.

    This is my third level of Creator-Gods going into and out of existence.

    1. Sun/star which die
    2. nebulae which dissipate after being the nursery of stars
    2. quasars which create some galaxies and then die down
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    Jul 01, 2013 8:55 AM GMT
    Lemme guess what you're gonna say next: the great harvest is upon us and we're all gonna be made pure in the reaping hour.
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    Jul 01, 2013 8:59 AM GMT
    I have a friend that is a retired astrophysicist, and he told me the other day that he suspects that our universe is inside a black hole, which is why we can't see beyond our event horizon. That struck me as wild!
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    Jul 01, 2013 2:39 PM GMT
    There are so many theories now about how the universe works that I don't get as much satisfaction as I used to watching science specials. Strings, bubbles, parallel universes, anti-matter, inter-dimensional projections... before I kick, I hope we figure out something for sure.
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    Jul 01, 2013 3:07 PM GMT
    Coolest TV name and jingle soundbite ever.

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  • ATLANTIS7

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    Jul 01, 2013 4:18 PM GMT
    All I can say is who knows?

    However I like the idea of being in a Black Hole?
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    Jul 01, 2013 4:40 PM GMT
    Incendiary saidLemme guess what you're gonna say next: the great harvest is upon us and we're all gonna be made pure in the reaping hour.


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  • Destinharbor

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    Jul 01, 2013 4:53 PM GMT
    I think the theory is that as everything is trapped in the black hole, the energy of the mass rises and rises until it exceeds the hold of gravity at which time it explodes outward, a quasar. What's interesting about it is the information it suggests about gravity. Gravity remains the mystery. God wouldn't be the quasar. The quasar is more like the effect than the cause. Like the big bang. The event horizon is simply where the massive gravity breaks down even the flow of light, thus slowing (or stopping?) time.
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    Jul 01, 2013 5:00 PM GMT
    Any excuse to post a Space: 1999 video. icon_biggrin.gif



  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 01, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
    Since no one has actually ever been near a black hole or a quasar, it is only a theory. A theory does not make it true. It could just as easily be a portal across time or a different universe or another dimension .... a portal into a different universe makes more sense to me ... like when you walk into an under ground cave, you are sort of in a different universe.
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    Jul 01, 2013 6:01 PM GMT
    I luuuuuv SPACE 1999!
    You left out the show almost-a-hottie though.

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    Jul 02, 2013 2:11 AM GMT
    tuckers_kahuna saidI have a friend that is a retired astrophysicist, and he told me the other day that he suspects that our universe is inside a black hole, which is why we can't see beyond our event horizon. That struck me as wild!


    That was alluded to in the program but they did say a black hole get's so full until it bursts out a quasar.
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    Jul 02, 2013 2:17 AM GMT
    tuckers_kahuna saidI have a friend that is a retired astrophysicist, and he told me the other day that he suspects that our universe is inside a black hole, which is why we can't see beyond our event horizon. That struck me as wild!


    Ask him for us what happened to the black hole singularity.

    What I know of black holes is from approximately 2002-2004 when Stephen Hawking's ideas were on the decline. Over the past few years, the covers of Scientific America haven't been catching my attention. 1999-2004 Scientific America has some really interesting articles.
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    Jul 02, 2013 2:20 AM GMT
    Okay, here's something important I remember. One of the scientists said the equations for a Black Hole work with the Big Bang, or something to that effect. I thing that was the segue to the theory that the universe came from a black hole.

    They sort of built up to the largest black hole imaginable. Let me explain. First they gave an approximate size of the supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy. Then they said another galaxy was larger with a larger black hole and then they postulated a black hole being part of the creation of the universe.
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    Jul 03, 2013 3:15 AM GMT
    Quasar rhymes with gaydar, and are you frickin' kidding me? Space 1999 was all about TONY, brought aboard season 2 to amp up the sex factor and hook up with Maya. Even in beige and rust he was ALWAYS the hottest guy in the room:

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    Jul 03, 2013 4:02 AM GMT
    So my friend said that Singularity and Event Horizon are the same thing. And that we cannot see past the event horizon, either before it or after it. Hence we might be in the state of after the event horizon. Don't ask me what all that means though!
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    Jul 03, 2013 11:33 AM GMT
    tuckers_kahuna saidSo my friend said that Singularity and Event Horizon are the same thing. And that we cannot see past the event horizon, either before it or after it. Hence we might be in the state of after the event horizon. Don't ask me what all that means though!


    1. Matter drawn into a Black Hole packed densely into a singularity
    2. Gas explodes out of a Black Hole into a quasar
    3. Quasar looses gas but black Hole remains

    BUT, the universe is supposed to be expanding.
    Even if it is not, is it taking in more and more matter as a Black Hole does? Where is this happening in the universe?
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    Jul 03, 2013 11:54 AM GMT
    Correct me, if I am wrong, but I thought that the Event Horizon and the Singularity were two different aspects of a black hole.

    The Event Horizon is the absolute edge of the black hole--point of no return. Think of it as a whirlpool. Then objects get too close to the pull, there is no escape!

    The Singularity is the center of the black hole where everything is crushed--due to immense gravity--to a precise point.

    It is true that every galaxy has a supermassive black hole (many times the size of our own Sun) at the heart, including our own. But our solar system is too far out of reach of the gravitational pull of the black hole...for now.

    Well, I just had to put in my opinion. I do find this subject matter very intriguing.
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    Jul 07, 2013 2:48 AM GMT
    sideways2134 saidCorrect me, if I am wrong, but I thought that the Event Horizon and the Singularity were two different aspects of a black hole.

    The Event Horizon is the absolute edge of the black hole--point of no return. Think of it as a whirlpool. Then objects get too close to the pull, there is no escape!

    The Singularity is the center of the black hole where everything is crushed--due to immense gravity--to a precise point.

    It is true that every galaxy has a supermassive black hole (many times the size of our own Sun) at the heart, including our own. But our solar system is too far out of reach of the gravitational pull of the black hole...for now.

    Well, I just had to put in my opinion. I do find this subject matter very intriguing.


    I need you to discuss your truth highlighted in bold above.

    There are non-spiral galaxies. How do you explain them?
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    Jul 07, 2013 2:49 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidCoolest TV name and jingle soundbite ever.

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    Jul 10, 2013 1:39 AM GMT
    What if stars were electric and there were no black holes?

    Re: Types of Galaxies

    There are Irregulars

    While most galaxies are spirals or ellipticals, some have no definite shape at all. Astronomers call them irregulars(Irr for short). In general, irregulars are rich in gas and dust, with much star formation taking place. Galaxy M82 is an irregular galaxy in Ursa Major.