How can I emigrate to America/become an American citizen?

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    Jul 01, 2013 8:00 AM GMT
    I wanted to live in America ever since I was a little boy.

    Ask me anything, i have been to 24 states, and read the greatest books from Common sense to the great gatsby.

    I know the etymology of most states name and most states ethic compositions and state capitols.

    Im stilling doing a biology undergraduate degree that I am hoping to finish in two years...

    I have Irish and British dual nationality.

    I also have a criminal record in the UK.....ahem.

    I have submitted an application to the green card lottery this year.

    There is no US embassy in my state, but there is one in Dublin and London.

    I want to be living in California by the time I am 30.

    I want to be an American citizen by the time I am 35.

    If I had to take a citizenship test today based solely on knowledge on the USA, I would pass with flying colours, I have researched American history/culture for years with this ambition.

    I would do anything to achieve the american dream of making it in your country through hard work.

    However your country is almost impossible to emigrate to now for irish people since the equalization of immigration quotas since 1965. I need special kills or a family unification scheme, which currently I have neither of.

    Can anyone offer me advice?
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    Jul 01, 2013 9:54 AM GMT
    IrishDarren said
    I also have a criminal record in the UK.....ahem.

    pretty sure this is your biggest obstacle, and will probably disqualify you from citizenship....unless you marry some American broad for the green card icon_neutral.gif
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    Jul 01, 2013 11:39 AM GMT
    ataraxia said
    IrishDarren said
    I also have a criminal record in the UK.....ahem.

    pretty sure this is your biggest obstacle, and will probably disqualify you from citizenship....unless you marry some American broad for the green card icon_neutral.gif


    You can also marry a man; that counts now for the purpose of getting a green card.
  • FitGwynedd

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    Jul 01, 2013 11:48 AM GMT
    A criminal record may or may not be a problem, depends on how serious it is. The most important thing is to be honest about it with them.

    Best path to American citizenship is either through marriage, family or work. The family track works as follows:

    'People born in the United States who have lived most of their lives in other countries. If you fall into this category, you may mistakenly believe that your long absence from the country, plus voting or military activities elsewhere, have stripped you of U.S. citizenship. This is not the case.

    People who have U.S. citizens in their direct line of ancestry. If your parents or grandparents were U.S. citizens, you may not realize that U.S. citizenship has been passed down the line, even if you were born elsewhere and your parents or grandparents haven't lived in the United States for a long time.

    Children of naturalized U.S. citizens. When parents become naturalized U.S. citizens, their minor children with green cards gain U.S. citizenship automatically. (Children under the age of 18 cannot normally apply to become naturalized U.S. citizens.)'

    As for employment, get a good education, get a good employer to sponsor you, and work in the US for seven years I think, then apply for citizenship.
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    Jul 01, 2013 11:57 AM GMT
    IrishDarren said I need special kills


    great typo.
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    Jul 01, 2013 12:03 PM GMT
    Or you could just come here as so many millions have already done and wait for the amnesty that we all know is going to be granted sooner or later.

  • FitGwynedd

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    Jul 01, 2013 12:04 PM GMT
    TexDef07 saidOr you could just come here as so many millions have already done and wait for the amnesty that we all know is going to be granted sooner or later.



    Cue racist raving Texan number 1
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    Jul 01, 2013 12:11 PM GMT
    FitGwynedd said
    TexDef07 saidOr you could just come here as so many millions have already done and wait for the amnesty that we all know is going to be granted sooner or later.



    Cue racist raving Texan number 1

    Please state what is not factually correct about the above.
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    Jul 01, 2013 12:20 PM GMT
    TexDef07 said
    FitGwynedd said
    TexDef07 saidOr you could just come here as so many millions have already done and wait for the amnesty that we all know is going to be granted sooner or later.



    Cue racist raving Texan number 1

    Please state what is not factually correct about the above.


    illegal-immigrants.jpg
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    Jul 01, 2013 12:29 PM GMT
    FitGwynedd said
    TexDef07 said
    FitGwynedd said
    TexDef07 saidOr you could just come here as so many millions have already done and wait for the amnesty that we all know is going to be granted sooner or later.



    Cue racist raving Texan number 1

    Please state what is not factually correct about the above.


    illegal-immigrants.jpg

    Still haven't been able to point out any factual error.
    PC preening won't cut it.
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    Jul 01, 2013 12:48 PM GMT
    The criminal record is a suspended sentence for a harassment conviction, and two restraining orders.

    Blame evil twisted ex and his weasel friend.

    I can't do anything about that though now, whats done is done.
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    Jul 01, 2013 12:58 PM GMT
    TexDef07 said
    FitGwynedd said
    TexDef07 saidOr you could just come here as so many millions have already done and wait for the amnesty that we all know is going to be granted sooner or later.



    Cue racist raving Texan number 1

    Please state what is not factually correct about the above.


    Most didn't come waiting for amnesty and we don't know it's going to come or in what form.

    Oh, and it was rude.
  • FitGwynedd

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    Jul 01, 2013 1:12 PM GMT
    IrishDarren saidThe criminal record is a suspended sentence for a harassment conviction, and two restraining orders.

    Blame evil twisted ex and his weasel friend.

    I can't do anything about that though now, whats done is done.


    Pretty minor to be honest.
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    Jul 01, 2013 1:24 PM GMT
    Like no offense to the americans who have an account here (Which is nearly everyone)

    But why would you want to move to the states? Like.. there are really better options you know. icon_neutral.gif
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    Jul 01, 2013 1:26 PM GMT
    mrap2 saidLike no offense to the americans who have an account here (Which is nearly everyone)

    But why would you want to move to the states? Like.. there are really better options you know. icon_neutral.gif


    Cheap cost of living, lots of jobs, nice people, and no smelly arrogant Europeans like yourself.
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    Jul 01, 2013 1:33 PM GMT
    FitGwynedd said
    mrap2 saidLike no offense to the americans who have an account here (Which is nearly everyone)

    But why would you want to move to the states? Like.. there are really better options you know. icon_neutral.gif


    Cheap cost of living, lots of jobs, nice people, and no smelly arrogant Europeans like yourself.


    Last time I checked. You're European yourself.

    Oh sure. I really feel safe when everyone in the states can buy a gun. A bit harder to get a hold of these here ay?

    There are lots of jobs here too. And you're going to pay a shit-ton of money for education and health care...
  • FitGwynedd

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    Jul 01, 2013 1:42 PM GMT
    mrap2 said
    FitGwynedd said
    mrap2 saidLike no offense to the americans who have an account here (Which is nearly everyone)

    But why would you want to move to the states? Like.. there are really better options you know. icon_neutral.gif


    Cheap cost of living, lots of jobs, nice people, and no smelly arrogant Europeans like yourself.


    Last time I checked. You're European yourself.

    Oh sure. I really feel safe when everyone in the states can buy a gun. A bit harder to get a hold of these here ay?

    There are lots of jobs here too. And you're going to pay a shit-ton of money for education and health care...


    I'm Welsh by ethnicity, European by geography, culturally I share far more with Americans than I do with the Eurotrash across the channel.

    There are far more jobs in the US. 25% youth unemployment in the EU.

    I've lived in the US and the gun thing is a little uncomfortable, but its really not a big deal in terms of public safety. Gun crime is concentrated amongst gangs, you don't see the muggings and stabbings that you get in the tourist areas in Paris.

    Oh and your employer pays your healthcare, if your unemployed you are covered by the government. (oversimplified I know)

    There are more merit-based scholarships available in the US for education than in the EU. If you work hard and get good marks there is a lot of funding available for you. I am looking into doing a PhD in the US because I found the funding availability much better than it is in the UK.

    Your just being an anti-American bigot because of envy of some sort, probably small package envy, i'm not sure, and I don't care why you hate Americans. Darren has asked for help with US immigration advice and you are trying to hijack this thread to spew your pompous Eurocentric excrement.
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    Jul 01, 2013 1:46 PM GMT
    I could be wrong, but didn't you just make a comment in the "is there an event in your life that affected you..." thread that Americans need to "get over" 911? It was in response to a guy who mentioned 911 at the event that affected him deeply.
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    FitGwynedd said
    mrap2 saidLike no offense to the americans who have an account here (Which is nearly everyone)

    But why would you want to move to the states? Like.. there are really better options you know. icon_neutral.gif


    Cheap cost of living, lots of jobs, nice people, and no smelly arrogant Europeans like yourself.


    Although americans are pretty conservative, they do tend to be nicer and less snobbish than europeans.

    I enjoyed a lot of kind treatment from americans, and no patronizing attitude like I get in Posh Superior England.
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    Myol saidI could be wrong, but didn't you just make a comment in the "is there an event in your life that affected you..." thread that Americans need to "get over" 911? It was in response to a guy who mentioned 911 at the event that affected him deeply.


    I apologise for that comment, it just upsets me that America is still so badly affected by it, I wish humans just had the ability to delete truamatic events from their memory.

    America has been more darker and grim since 9/11 I just miss the 90s self confidence of your nation.
  • FitGwynedd

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    Jul 01, 2013 1:48 PM GMT
    IrishDarren said
    FitGwynedd said
    mrap2 saidLike no offense to the americans who have an account here (Which is nearly everyone)

    But why would you want to move to the states? Like.. there are really better options you know. icon_neutral.gif


    Cheap cost of living, lots of jobs, nice people, and no smelly arrogant Europeans like yourself.


    Although americans are pretty conservative, they do tend to be nicer and less snobbish than europeans.

    I enjoyed a lot of kind treatment from americans, and no patronizing attitude like I get in Posh Superior England.


    +1

    Plus they are more attractive and I find them to be a lot of fun. Europeans are so fucking boring if you ask for hot sauce they bring you mayonaise.
  • FitGwynedd

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    Jul 01, 2013 1:49 PM GMT
    IrishDarren said
    Myol saidI could be wrong, but didn't you just make a comment in the "is there an event in your life that affected you..." thread that Americans need to "get over" 911? It was in response to a guy who mentioned 911 at the event that affected him deeply.


    I apologise for that comment, it just upsets me that America is still so badly affected by it, I wish humans just had the ability to delete truamatic events from their memory.

    America has been more darker and grim since 9/11 I just miss the 90s self confidence of your nation.


    I would say it had the opposite effect. I think it reminded people that they need to take care of each other and stop trying to make money.
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    Jul 01, 2013 1:52 PM GMT
    FitGwynedd said
    mrap2 said
    FitGwynedd said
    mrap2 saidLike no offense to the americans who have an account here (Which is nearly everyone)

    But why would you want to move to the states? Like.. there are really better options you know. icon_neutral.gif


    Cheap cost of living, lots of jobs, nice people, and no smelly arrogant Europeans like yourself.


    Last time I checked. You're European yourself.

    Oh sure. I really feel safe when everyone in the states can buy a gun. A bit harder to get a hold of these here ay?

    There are lots of jobs here too. And you're going to pay a shit-ton of money for education and health care...


    I'm Welsh by ethnicity, European by geography, culturally I share far more with Americans than I do with the Eurotrash across the channel.

    There are far more jobs in the US. 25% youth unemployment in the EU.

    I've lived in the US and the gun thing is a little uncomfortable, but its really not a big deal in terms of public safety. Gun crime is concentrated amongst gangs, you don't see the muggings and stabbings that you get in the tourist areas in Paris.

    Oh and your employer pays your healthcare, if your unemployed you are covered by the government. (oversimplified I know)

    There are more merit-based scholarships available in the US for education than in the EU. If you work hard and get good marks there is a lot of funding available for you. I am looking into doing a PhD in the US because I found the funding availability much better than it is in the UK.

    Your just being an anti-American bigot because of envy of some sort, probably small package envy, i'm not sure, and I don't care why you hate Americans. Darren has asked for help with US immigration advice and you are trying to hijack this thread to spew your pompous Eurocentric excrement.


    Then why do you live in England if you like the US so much? icon_neutral.gif

    The social model used in places like Scandinavia are way better than the one used in the U.S.. Everyone gets the same amount of money from the government wether they've spent a long time working or not. You can still make a living out of it.

    Sure, the taxes where I live might be quite high but if we didn't have that, we would have to spend a shitload of money on education (which is free here) And health care...

    And lol chillax. I got nothing against Americans, I never said I ''hate'' them, (but you're very welcome to find the word ''hate'' in my last messages) I just wouldn't want to live there myself. Besides, Europe in general is way more gay friendly than certain places in the states are. Hell, we've made more progress over here than over there.
    People are commonly just way more religious over there than here. -.-

    And like.. Well, it has nothing really to do with what I said above but it's more of my own opinion, but there are some americans who are just half-assed stupid.
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    Jul 01, 2013 1:53 PM GMT
    America is notoriously difficult to immigrate to. You need someone to sponsor you or a special skill, etc etc.

    What u can do tho which would make it a bit easier to immigrate here is to go to Grad school here in the US on a student visa. Being that you're getting a bio degree-- u could apply and get accepted to a medical school and come on a student visa....graduate and I heard it's a lot easier for student's who graduate with an advanced degree to get a green card after they graduate.... the idea is America wants to keep the people they educated to benefit their own country....ie doctors, engineers, etc.
  • FitGwynedd

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    Jul 01, 2013 1:57 PM GMT
    mrap2 said
    FitGwynedd said
    mrap2 said
    FitGwynedd said
    mrap2 saidLike no offense to the americans who have an account here (Which is nearly everyone)

    But why would you want to move to the states? Like.. there are really better options you know. icon_neutral.gif


    Cheap cost of living, lots of jobs, nice people, and no smelly arrogant Europeans like yourself.


    Last time I checked. You're European yourself.

    Oh sure. I really feel safe when everyone in the states can buy a gun. A bit harder to get a hold of these here ay?

    There are lots of jobs here too. And you're going to pay a shit-ton of money for education and health care...


    I'm Welsh by ethnicity, European by geography, culturally I share far more with Americans than I do with the Eurotrash across the channel.

    There are far more jobs in the US. 25% youth unemployment in the EU.

    I've lived in the US and the gun thing is a little uncomfortable, but its really not a big deal in terms of public safety. Gun crime is concentrated amongst gangs, you don't see the muggings and stabbings that you get in the tourist areas in Paris.

    Oh and your employer pays your healthcare, if your unemployed you are covered by the government. (oversimplified I know)

    There are more merit-based scholarships available in the US for education than in the EU. If you work hard and get good marks there is a lot of funding available for you. I am looking into doing a PhD in the US because I found the funding availability much better than it is in the UK.

    Your just being an anti-American bigot because of envy of some sort, probably small package envy, i'm not sure, and I don't care why you hate Americans. Darren has asked for help with US immigration advice and you are trying to hijack this thread to spew your pompous Eurocentric excrement.


    Then why do you live in England if you like the US so much? icon_neutral.gif

    The social model used in places like Scandinavia are way better than the one used in the U.S.. Everyone gets the same amount of money from the government wether they've spent a long time working or not. You can still make a living out of it.

    Sure, the taxes where I live might be quite high but if we didn't have that, we would have to spend a shitload of money on education (which is free here) And health care...

    And lol chillax. I got nothing against Americans, I never said I ''hate'' them, (but you're very welcome to find the word ''hate'' in my last messages) I just wouldn't want to live there myself. Besides, Europe in general is way more gay friendly than certain places in the states are. Hell, we've made more progress over here than over there.
    People are commonly just way more religious over there than here. -.-

    And like.. Well, it has nothing really to do with what I said above, but there are some americans who are just half-assed stupid.


    There a are a lot more Europeans who are half-arsed stupid, such as yourself. I DON'T LIVE IN ENGLAND. LOOK AT A MAP.

    If you think the EU is more gay progressive hold hands with a man on a busy street in Poland.

    Economic policy varies from place to place, but the US has considerable social programmes that are on par with those of Europe.