Scared in my home state thanks to prop 8 in cali.

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    Nov 05, 2008 12:07 PM GMT
    I don't know where this vote will go concerning prop 8 but i swear i am sweating like a pig over this. Being from massachusetts I have enjoyed and especially entertained the idea that someday i will get married and start my own family someday.

    However i have many concerns when a state so culturally diverse such as california is subject to the vote on the civil right to get married just after twice the legislature said we could and finally the supreme court itself said we could and now the people are going to say we can't?

    In my home state i feel safe to say that such a ballot will never make it here in the "gay state" but I'm beginning to have my doubts. I feel like if we don't enshrine one of our most precious rights in our state constitution that somebody will take this away from me and many others who want to get married someday. Not that I'm in a rush to get hitched right away because goddess knows i'm not ready "yet" but where are we going from here?

    I feel like we have been on the defense too long and need to be more on the offense NOW or we won't be enjoying our newfound freedoms for long.icon_exclaim.gif
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    Nov 05, 2008 12:12 PM GMT
    I am afraid it will pass! =(

    However, I am happy for Connecticut. Equal marriage is legal and will remain so because the voters said no to a constitutional convention to amend the state constitution.

    As for Florida passing Amendment 2 banning equal marriage, I am now even happier that I moved to Massachusetts. The wingnuts can have Florida.
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    Nov 05, 2008 1:22 PM GMT
    F**k that, I love florida and I've never been to cali. I would rather not go where my rights don't exist which is why i believe we seriously need to go on the offense. The pawns are on the board now we have the majority now, Let's make sure they realize that that 5-6percent margin of winning is because of us!!! I know i voted.icon_neutral.gif
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    Nov 05, 2008 1:55 PM GMT
    Prop 8 has remained at a pretty steady 52% approval, as more votes are counted. A state amendment in California requires 60% voter approval to pass, so it's 8% short (failing) as of Wed, 8:55 AM EST.
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    Nov 05, 2008 1:57 PM GMT
    Red_Hussein_Vespa saidProp 8 has remained at a pretty steady 52% approval, as more votes are counted. A state amendment in California requires 60% voter approval to pass, so it's 8% short (failing) as of Wed, 8:55 AM EST.


    I believe that all is needed is a simple majority...
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    Nov 05, 2008 1:59 PM GMT
    I've never been so pissed. I can't sleep cuz some smug bitch in San Diego or B.F.E. California decided his or her cunt would smell pretty if he or she oppressed a bunch of gays. Fucking uneducated bitches.
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    Nov 05, 2008 2:03 PM GMT
    Red_Hussein_Vespa saidProp 8 has remained at a pretty steady 52% approval, as more votes are counted. A state amendment in California requires 60% voter approval to pass, so it's 8% short (failing) as of Wed, 8:55 AM EST.


    According to Wikipedia, propositions only need a simple majority, that's 50% plus 1.



    **First, the California Legislature may pass an act which is signed by the governor, proposing a state constitutional amendment, which is then submitted to the voters as a referendum at the next statewide election. If more than 50% of the voters approve the referendum then the constitutional amendment is approved and goes into effect.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_ballot_proposition
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    Nov 05, 2008 3:18 PM GMT
    Red_Hussein_Vespa saidProp 8 has remained at a pretty steady 52% approval, as more votes are counted. A state amendment in California requires 60% voter approval to pass, so it's 8% short (failing) as of Wed, 8:55 AM EST.


    All you need is a simple majority. Quite depressing for everyone.
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    Nov 05, 2008 3:34 PM GMT
    relax boys....its 2 steps ahead, 1 step back...thats how most civil struggles are...things will take time, but change will come sooner than you think.

    isn't the president elect the most liberal democrat man in that position this country has ever had in its history? how much better could it be? he included everyone american in his gracious speech, not just the majority that voted for him.

    alexander, youre 19....by the time youre 28-30, you will be allowed to get married. each generation is getting increasingly open and accepting of the rights of minority....the youth of california voted NO 3 to 1 to prop 8.

    be happy, there is much to be happy about.
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    Nov 05, 2008 5:19 PM GMT
    sundayswim said
    alexander, youre 19....by the time youre 28-30, you will be allowed to get married. each generation is getting increasingly open and accepting of the rights of minority....the youth of california voted NO 3 to 1 to prop 8.



    on the cnn results page Here
    under 30s - 2 to 1 against
    over 65s - 2 to 1 in favor.

    the polls showed as the voters get older, the more against gay marriage they are.
    so as time goes by, and the older (and bigoted) voters drop dead, hopefully the world will become more accepting of all the people that live here.
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    Nov 05, 2008 5:25 PM GMT
    sundayswim saidrelax boys....its 2 steps ahead, 1 step back...thats how most civil struggles are...things will take time, but change will come sooner than you think....

    Agreed. What was little noticed is that the Dems took the State Senate in New York. It has been THAT body that has blocked gay marriage legislation which the governor actively supports. We couldn't get CA but it looks like we'll get NY as a counter.
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    Nov 05, 2008 5:33 PM GMT
    Gigadu saidAgreed. What was little noticed is that the Dems took the State Senate in New York. It has been THAT body that has blocked gay marriage legislation which the governor actively supports. We couldn't get CA but it looks like we'll get NY as a counter.


    The Dem edge in the senate is so small and we still have a lot of palio-Dems who could give a rats ass about gay rights. I hope we can finally get it done, but it wont be so simple.
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    Nov 05, 2008 10:13 PM GMT
    "the California Legislature may pass an act which is signed by the governor, proposing a state constitutional amendment"

    Wait a second this never happened first?

    Does this make the proposed ammendment void?