Trying to quit smoking - help needed!

  • Jexxo

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    Jul 03, 2013 10:21 PM GMT
    Hey guys, would really appreciate some advice on the best ways to go about quitting smoking.

    I've been smoking for about 9 years now and now I'm coming up to my mid 20's decided I really should kick the habit.

    I know I'm going to find it real hard (currently smoke about 10 a day) so would really appreciate and tips people have. I did try half heartedly to quit about a year or so ago but failed miserably but this time I'm determined to do it!

    I'm pretty sure that I'd crumble if I just stopped completely straight away so I'm thinking of cutting down slowly, is that a good way?
  • Rhi_Bran

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    Jul 03, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
    Honestly, there is no better way to do it than quitting cold turkey. You'll be uncomfortable, you'll be miserable for a few weeks, but that's small stuff compared to what you will suffer if you keep smoking... oh, Jesus... ten a day.

    I've never been a smoker so I can't speak from experience, but my grandpa started smoking at 18 during WWII, quit when he was in his 50's after his doctor gave him a grave warning, and now he's 96. He has dementia and cannot walk as a result of a brain tumor he had a year ago, but that's not related to the smoking at all.

    If and when you try quitting, start going to the gym. Almost every day if you can manage it. Don't just sit around all day. You don't want to deal with the weight gain that is ubiquitous to chain smokers who quit.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 03, 2013 10:34 PM GMT
    Take time off work, if you can, and quit cold turkey. Cutting down doesn't work. It will be tough, and your mind will play tricks on you. Just remember that every craving will pass, no matter how unbearable it seems. The depression you may feel will also pass. It will be worth it, once you are free from the destructive habit.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 03, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
    Just remember this ... people that smoke stink and hot guys who don't smoke will be completely turned off by the smell ... and if you try covering up with cologne, you just smell like a stinky whore.
  • Webster666

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    Jul 03, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
    You're an addict.
    There is no easy way to quit.
    As it is with any addiction, all you can do is quit, and suffer until you can stand to be with out it.
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    Jul 03, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
    In addition to all of the previous excellent advice, my suggestion is what I used; self visualization. Imagine yourself as a non-smoker at some point in the future. Convince yourself that you will be that person. Refresh that vision whenever you feel the urge to smoke, even if it's a slight urge, and especially if you fail and have a cigarette. Always keep telling yourself and convince yourself that you will be a non-smoker.
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    Jul 03, 2013 11:47 PM GMT
    I often find people smoke in rituals - a smoke after eating, a smoke when waking up, a smoke while driving. Try and break those rituals one at a time.
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    Jul 04, 2013 1:10 AM GMT

    try e-cigs and don't buy anymore tobacco, they work better than patch or gum

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  • Import

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    Jul 04, 2013 1:45 AM GMT
    U should get one of those electronic ciggs. They're so in right now and u can accessorize them with almost anything.
  • MikeW

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    Jul 04, 2013 2:12 AM GMT
    As a pack-a-day smoker (from teen years) who has quit for years at a time numerous times, I agree that cold turkey is the way to go.

    TIP # 1:

    It really IS NOT all that difficult. Everyone tells you it is, you believe it is, and so it seems it will be. I hadn't smoked for a couple years, started again, smoked from August of last year till a little over a month ago and I quit COLD. It was NOT difficult.

    TIP # 2:

    You need to be "psychologically ready." I don't know what that means for you but for me it means I have to be willing and able to withstand the DESIRE to smoke and not ACT on that desire. Nicotine is what is called a "transparent" drug. That is, once your body gets used to the effect there is no noticeable "high." Rather, what you notice is when the amount in the blood/brain gets low, thus the 'itch' for another cig. So, being "psychologically ready" for me means being ready to feel that itch but not scratch it.

    Tip # 3:

    The craving for a cigarette will go away whether you have one or not. This is the most important tip and the one that makes quitting possible and relatively easy. Once you're psychologically ready to stop, just stop. Don't buy another pack. When you feel the desire for a cigarette, just pay attention to that desire (don't try to shove it away). Look at it. Feel it. But do NOT act on it. In stead, just go about your business doing whatever it is you would ordinarily be doing.

    What you will find is this. The craving will go away of its self. If you just go on doing or thinking whatever, you'll realize some time down the road something like: "OH! I never did have that cigarette I wanted and I forgot all about it!" Yep. That's how it works. Now the craving is back again. Just resist it again... and again it will go away.

    Keep that up for several days. After a week to a month (for me it is only like three days) the cravings subside to the point where they hardly ever happen at all.

    NOW... Here is the last thing you need to know.

    YOU ARE AN ADDICT AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE AN ADDICT. This is the tricky part because I'm living proof that one can quit cold turkey and go for years without smoking and then, for some stupid reason or another, go right back to smoking again like I never quit. For me what triggers the "desire" is usually social stress of some sort. For example, I *almost* fell off the wagon last night and had a cig. Why? Because we had friends over and people drank (something I don't usually do) and the guests ended up staying later than was comfortable for me and when they FINALLY left I was stressed out and my ability to "resist" was weakened by alcohol. I *almost* had a cig. BUT I didn't. I looked in my house-mates stash and there was only ONE and I didn't dare smoke *that* ONE so, I just said 'fuck it' and went on with my getting ready for bed routine. It was no big deal. BUT it was a *close call* and the kind of thing you need to watch out for.

    I have stopped for years at a time and then gone back to it due to some stress or other in my life. Keep the stress level down and you'll do just fine.
  • MikeW

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    Jul 04, 2013 2:21 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidMy only concern about the cold turkey method is it's needless pain when you can be done with it physically in about 48 hours on Chantix. Plus.. 90% percent that do cold turkey, return to it as some point in time.
    I'd rather see someone quit for good!

    When you say your friends haven't returned, how long has it been? I ask because I've gone as long as 10 years without smoking using the cold turkey method. It really isn't all that painful. That's a myth most smokers live by but it has no basis in reality.
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    Jul 04, 2013 2:22 AM GMT
    Try to rid yourself of smoking for 2 weeks. After your body has completely depleted its self of nicotine, you should not have a craving. However, this could also be psychological, in which case it becomes much more complicated.
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    Jul 04, 2013 2:44 AM GMT
    Rhi_Bran saidHonestly, there is no better way to do it than quitting cold turkey.


    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
    Not true!

    Research shows that there is a good number of smokers that suffer mild to moderate neurological trauma during and after quitting smoking.

    It's not so common but not so rare either.

    Strokes,
    Temporary to permanent Muscle twitching,
    Many reports of people getting violently ill in the withdrawal phase. (including me)
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    Jul 04, 2013 2:56 AM GMT
    make sure you have one cigarette on hand
    it will help relieve you to know that it is there if you need it

    go cold turkey
    chew gum or suck on hard candy
    drink lots of water (helps to wash the nicotine out)
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    Jul 04, 2013 4:25 AM GMT
    you have to really want to quit, and be ready, or no matter how you try, nothing will work.

    I smoked for 17 years, tried the patch, gum, cold turkey, for years, nothing worked. Used Zyban when I decided i really wanted to quit, and was done in 2 weeks. Have never looked back, doesn't feel like I ever smoked, and can;t imagine that I ever had a cigarette in my hand.

    But you really have to want to quit before any aide will help.

    Good luck! 6 years later and it's great icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 04, 2013 4:54 AM GMT
    JayP hit the nail on the head. I quit around 30 years ago when I was around 30. Prior to that I had gone probably 8 years or so without smoking; I had started in high school. The second time I quit I was convinced that I absolutely would never smoke again. And I've never had any desire to smoke again.

    The mind is very powerful.
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    Jul 04, 2013 5:47 AM GMT
    Believe in yourself, concentrate on all the reasons that you want to give up for and don't beat yourself up if at first you don't succeed. Good luck to you it took me many years to finally quit but am now 7 years smoke free
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    Jul 04, 2013 7:56 AM GMT
    Aren't the e-cigs still nicotine? Seems like a minimal advantage if that's true.
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    Jul 04, 2013 8:18 AM GMT
    blueyedItalian saidmake sure you have one cigarette on hand
    it will help relieve you to know that it is there if you need it

    go cold turkey
    chew gum or suck on hard candy
    drink lots of water (helps to wash the nicotine out)


    ^ I really resonate with this method - on how to go about it personally ... . It kinda puts your mind in a paradoxical middle of the road sigh of relief area - in which I think is the most ideal and yet practical way to go about it - at least in the very first initial-steps of quieting long term to forever never again sense...

    ^ Just my own 2 - 0.0fu*ks - on the matter .. one dudes opinion icon_idea.gif
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    Jul 04, 2013 9:18 AM GMT
    sunjbill said
    Lumpynose saidAren't the e-cigs still nicotine? Seems like a minimal advantage if that's true.

    I don't know exactly how it works, but I think you replace the e-cig vials and they slowly take the nicotine out. The dude I was talking to said he was basically on water vapor now and the only habit left to kick was the act of putting a cig in his mouth and puffing. He was hoping to kick that habit in another month or so.


    Yeah E Cigs are def still nicotine (glycerin mixed with nicotine) but if you wanna quit you can lower the mg dosage of nic in the juice slowly. You can then taper off and eventually get to 0mg.

    I guess it gives you something to do with your hands which is part of the psychological problem with quitting cigarettes.

    A friend at work told me you need to quit before 30 in order to limit the permanent damage you do to your body so I have one year to quit.
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    Jul 04, 2013 9:44 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    MikeW said
    TheGuyNextDoor saidMy only concern about the cold turkey method is it's needless pain when you can be done with it physically in about 48 hours on Chantix. Plus.. 90% percent that do cold turkey, return to it as some point in time.
    I'd rather see someone quit for good!

    When you say your friends haven't returned, how long has it been? I ask because I've gone as long as 10 years without smoking using the cold turkey method. It really isn't all that painful. That's a myth most smokers live by but it has no basis in reality.

    They have all gone LONGER than the 10 yrs. and none have had a relapse.


    CHANTIX hasn't been in the market that long.

    It was recently designed to replace nicotine in the brain. In addition to morning nausea and wild night dreams, it helps numb the urge for nicotine. Ultimately, it does boil down to cold turkey. The physical addiction lasts a few days; the psychological one much much longer.
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    Jul 04, 2013 9:58 AM GMT
    Chantix certainly makes it easier. I'll be 4 months since my last cigarette tomorrow (7/5). I stopped the pills 10 days ago. I never had any of the dream or mood swing issues, but I'm convinced they f'd up my metabolism. I gained 10 lbs over the first 90 days and really wasn't eating any differently than I was before I quit. That being said, it was worth the temporary weight gain to get off the smokes. I've taken a couple lbs off since I stopped taking the pills.

    Will not start up again this time. What others have said is true, you have to be ready to do it. Good luck.
  • Rhi_Bran

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    Jul 04, 2013 2:44 PM GMT
    Anocxu said
    Rhi_Bran saidHonestly, there is no better way to do it than quitting cold turkey.


    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
    Not true!

    Research shows that there is a good number of smokers that suffer mild to moderate neurological trauma during and after quitting smoking.

    It's not so common but not so rare either.

    Strokes,
    Temporary to permanent Muscle twitching,
    Many reports of people getting violently ill in the withdrawal phase. (including me)


    When did I ever say you would not suffer withdrawal symptoms?
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    Jul 04, 2013 11:03 PM GMT
    There's only one simple solution:

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    Jul 04, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
    What finally worked for me was nicotine gum and lozenges, but that's me. There are a lot of suggestions in this thread from former smokers based on what worked for them. Pay attention to all of them because none of them have extremely high success rates. That is not to say that none of them will work, but that you have to find what works for you. Just start somewhere and keep trying the different methods suggested here and elsewhere until you find success.