Ted Cruz: Obama’s Egypt policy a ‘stunning diplomatic failure’

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    Jul 03, 2013 11:14 PM GMT
    It's difficult to argue with the logic.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/03/ted-cruz-obamas-egypt-policy-stunning-diplomatic-failure/

    Texas Republican Sen.Ted Cruz blasted the Obama administration’s policy toward Egypt in a scathing op-ed in Foreign Policy magazine, slamming the president’s stance on the Muslim Brotherhood “one of the most stunning diplomatic failures in recent memory.”

    As the Egyptian military ends President Mohamed Morsi’s rule, Cruz points out that the ire of many people in the streets of Cairo is not reserved for the Muslim Brotherhood alone.

    “The people protesting in the streets were not only carrying anti-Morsi signs,” Cruz writes. “They were also carrying signs with slogans like ‘Obama Supports Terrorism’ and ‘Obama Supports Morsi,’ as well as pictures of the American ambassador to Egypt, Anne Patterson, with a large red ‘X’ through her face.”
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    Jul 04, 2013 12:07 AM GMT
    A man of honor taking personal responsibility?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57592273/obama-orders-review-of-u.s-aid-to-egypt/
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    Jul 04, 2013 12:15 AM GMT
    I really don't know much about the President's foreign policy - is there one?
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    Jul 04, 2013 2:54 AM GMT
    "Ambassador Becomes Focus of Egyptians’ Mistrust of U.S."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/world/middleeast/ambassador-becomes-focus-of-egyptians-mistrust-of-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&
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    Jul 04, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
    https://twitter.com/deppisch/status/352586935530823681/photo/1

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    Jul 04, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
    Like anyone should listen to Ted Cruz about anything. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 04, 2013 6:43 PM GMT
    showme saidLike anyone should listen to Ted Cruz about anything. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Oh you don't have to. The problem is that at least this time, he's right.
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    Jul 05, 2013 4:09 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    showme saidLike anyone should listen to Ted Cruz about anything. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Oh you don't have to. The problem is that at least this time, he's right.


    If and when he is right it's only the stopped clock principle. I'm not sure he's right twice a day. Maybe twice a decade.
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    Jul 05, 2013 10:46 AM GMT
    Umm .... like you're repeating ANYTHING that Ted Cruz says? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 11:22 AM GMT
    showme said
    riddler78 said
    showme saidLike anyone should listen to Ted Cruz about anything. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Oh you don't have to. The problem is that at least this time, he's right.


    If and when he is right it's only the stopped clock principle. I'm not sure he's right twice a day. Maybe twice a decade.


    Yep to discount anything he says just because he says it, isn't really as much a reflection on him. I mean maybe you find him offensive because he's Latino by the same logic many liberals use when it comes to Obama.
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    Jul 05, 2013 12:02 PM GMT
    Meanwhile Americans are oppressed by Christians here in the good old USA.


    "dismayed at the religious authoritarianism slowly strangling their country"

    Sounds like many secular democrats and independents here in America concerning the GOP and the aggressive and invasive polices trying to be implemented.
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    Jul 05, 2013 12:10 PM GMT
    msuNdc saidMeanwhile Americans are oppressed by Christians here in the good old USA.


    "dismayed at the religious authoritarianism slowly strangling their country"

    Sounds like many secular democrats and independents here in America concerning the GOP and the aggressive and invasive polices trying to be implemented.


    The comparison is ridiculous. This seems to really lack perspective for what minorities really face abroad. In the US they might frown on you, say a few words, in other places? Prison, stoning, murder, etc. Heck, they've even tried to do shows to find bigots in the US but failed miserably.
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:54 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    showme said
    riddler78 said
    showme saidLike anyone should listen to Ted Cruz about anything. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Oh you don't have to. The problem is that at least this time, he's right.


    If and when he is right it's only the stopped clock principle. I'm not sure he's right twice a day. Maybe twice a decade.


    Yep to discount anything he says just because he says it, isn't really as much a reflection on him. I mean maybe you find him offensive because he's Latino by the same logic many liberals use when it comes to Obama.


    No, I find him offensive becuase he's an idiot. Don't you dare imply that I'm racist - the "maybe" doesn't help.
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    Jul 05, 2013 7:07 PM GMT
    showme said
    riddler78 said
    showme said
    riddler78 said
    showme saidLike anyone should listen to Ted Cruz about anything. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Oh you don't have to. The problem is that at least this time, he's right.


    If and when he is right it's only the stopped clock principle. I'm not sure he's right twice a day. Maybe twice a decade.


    Yep to discount anything he says just because he says it, isn't really as much a reflection on him. I mean maybe you find him offensive because he's Latino by the same logic many liberals use when it comes to Obama.


    No, I find him offensive becuase he's an idiot. Don't you dare imply that I'm racist - the "maybe" doesn't help.


    Why not? It seems all the rage for liberals these days. Not to mention the fact you're the one who said "Like anyone should listen to Ted Cruz about anything." On this issue he makes a lot of sense - I've not read as much about the man, but he's clearly no idiot as you'd like to make him out to be so I have to imagine it's something else.

    Color of his skin? Perhaps.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 06, 2013 4:13 AM GMT
    Everybody in the world including Obama: "Who is Ted Cruz, and who cares what he thinks?"
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 06, 2013 4:13 AM GMT
    Everybody in the world including Obama: "Who is Ted Cruz, and who cares what he thinks?" *moving on*
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    Jul 07, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    "Egypt’s protesters find a new villain: the U.S. ambassador"

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/01/egypts-protesters-find-a-new-villain-the-u-s-ambassador/
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    Jul 07, 2013 3:00 AM GMT
    I guess he didn't think it was important enough to leave his boat. I mean it's just one of the largest protests by Muslims against Islamism. Further, it's curious that the State Department felt they needed to initially lie about where John Kerry was.

    "John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes"

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57592465/john-kerry-on-his-boat-during-egypt-upheaval-state-dept-concedes/
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    Jul 07, 2013 3:20 AM GMT
    "John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes"

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57592465/john-kerry-on-his-boat-during-egypt-upheaval-state-dept-concedes/


    Kerry is a buffoon.
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    Jul 07, 2013 11:35 AM GMT
    southbeach1502 said"John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes"

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57592465/john-kerry-on-his-boat-during-egypt-upheaval-state-dept-concedes/


    Kerry is a buffoon.


    And apparently exists to make Hillary Clinton's tenure look good...
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    Jul 07, 2013 12:08 PM GMT
    I prefer this more balanced analysis from the BBC North America editor:

    President Barack Obama treads a delicate line in his statement on the Egyptian crisis - he says he's "deeply concerned" by the action of the military in removing President Morsi and suspending the constitution.

    But he falls short of condemnation or urging that Mr Morsi should be restored to power.

    He does say that the Egyptian armed forces should move "quickly and responsibly" to return "full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible".

    But note that it is "a" government not "the" government.

    The fact is the Obama administration won't be tremendously disappointed by what has happened. But it will be worried that this could lead to a chaotic, undemocratic and violent future.

    It has grown increasingly frustrated by Mr Morsi and has said that he had not listened or responded to the voices of the people.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23175795
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    Jul 07, 2013 12:25 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidI guess he didn't think it was important enough to leave his boat. I mean it's just one of the largest protests by Muslims against Islamism. Further, it's curious that the State Department felt they needed to initially lie about where John Kerry was.

    "John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes"

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57592465/john-kerry-on-his-boat-during-egypt-upheaval-state-dept-concedes/


    In other old news:

    "The [Conservative] Prime Minister, Edward Heath, has steered the British Admiral's Cup team to victory at the helm of his 42-foot yacht, Morning Cloud.

    During the race, Mr Heath has had to weather storms not only in the Atlantic Ocean, but also from critics at home who have condemned his decision to stay in the race despite a growing crisis in Northern Ireland."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/11/newsid_2974000/2974996.stm
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    Jul 07, 2013 12:38 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidI prefer this more balanced analysis from the BBC North America editor:

    President Barack Obama treads a delicate line in his statement on the Egyptian crisis - he says he's "deeply concerned" by the action of the military in removing President Morsi and suspending the constitution.

    But he falls short of condemnation or urging that Mr Morsi should be restored to power.

    He does say that the Egyptian armed forces should move "quickly and responsibly" to return "full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible".

    But note that it is "a" government not "the" government.

    The fact is the Obama administration won't be tremendously disappointed by what has happened. But it will be worried that this could lead to a chaotic, undemocratic and violent future.

    It has grown increasingly frustrated by Mr Morsi and has said that he had not listened or responded to the voices of the people.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23175795


    This is the equivalent to pablum that entirely ignores what the Obama Administration did and didn't do prior to the overthrow confusing elections with democracy.
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    Jul 07, 2013 12:39 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidI guess he didn't think it was important enough to leave his boat. I mean it's just one of the largest protests by Muslims against Islamism. Further, it's curious that the State Department felt they needed to initially lie about where John Kerry was.

    "John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes"

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57592465/john-kerry-on-his-boat-during-egypt-upheaval-state-dept-concedes/


    In other old news:

    "The [Conservative] Prime Minister, Edward Heath, has steered the British Admiral's Cup team to victory at the helm of his 42-foot yacht, Morning Cloud.

    During the race, Mr Heath has had to weather storms not only in the Atlantic Ocean, but also from critics at home who have condemned his decision to stay in the race despite a growing crisis in Northern Ireland."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/11/newsid_2974000/2974996.stm


    How is this old news? Do you regularly expect that your government officials lie to you, confess to lying and then you promptly ignore it as "old news"?
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    Jul 07, 2013 2:38 PM GMT
    The problem with a "nuanced"/incomprehensible approach when it comes to foreign policy and the support of democracy.

    "Anti-Americanism flares in Egypt as protests rage over Morsi's ouster

    Both pro-Morsi Islamists and the anti-Morsi Rebel group accuse the U.S. of supporting the other and allege elaborate conspiracies against Egypt."

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-egypt-anti-american-20130706,0,6572930.story