Brawl at Pride Fest in Seattle. Street preachers get attacked by crowd.

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    Jul 05, 2013 3:23 AM GMT


    He got what he deservedicon_lol.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 3:33 AM GMT
    I dunno, the shirtless guy with the big belly seemed a total jerk, and likely under the influence. The "preachers" were pretty tame, their message didn't even appear to be specifically homophobic. Leave them alone, let people laugh at them, they're neither harming anyone nor accomplishing anything.
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    Jul 05, 2013 3:48 AM GMT
    Violence solves nothing.
    People have a right to protest (that is part of "freedom" in the U.S. is it not?)just as Pride or any other cultural event is allowed,accepted, and celebrated.

    Confronting any oppressor with violence just gives "them" more power....you're just feeding the beast.
    If you ignore, they end up looking like an ass. If you resort to their tactics...or in this case, choose violence, you are the ass.

    Anyways, by the looks of it, the guy was protesting quietly..the gang that attacked him was pretty f'ing obnoxious...a classless move on their part and nothing to be proud of...my 2cents.
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    Jul 05, 2013 3:49 AM GMT
    Except for maybe the people stepping in the middle to stop the aggressors, there is little in that video to be proud of. The only legitimate use of violence is self defense.
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    Jul 05, 2013 5:11 AM GMT
    Wow, that was completely wrong to me.
    These protesters have not laid a hand to anyone at Pride, so why are these people celebrating Pride being worse than their oppressor? =O
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    Jul 05, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    Of course that's disturbing. So how do we judge whether or not someone is provoking violence?

    If I protest down the street from a military funeral, is that respectful enough. If I protest on the cemetery grounds during the burial, have I stepped over a line of decency. If I disrupt the ceremony not just with signs but with my voice, as mourners are expressing their grief, would I not expect to be manhandled the fuck out of there?

    I remember at a Lauderdale pride parade when some scumbag paid a plane to skywrite some Jesus stuff directly above the pride festival. Super rude. I thought that person should have been arrested for graffiti. Didn't they just arrest some guy who protested a bank in chalk? One blows away, one washes away in the rain so what's the difference. Now I'm not saying skywriting Jesus over Pride deserves antiaircraft missiles, but I wonder where's the line.

    A protest across the street is one thing. But what if that guy tried marching in the pride parade with that sign. Allowed? Okay to physically prevent that? Is it okay for him to parade his sign through the pride parade audience? What if he paid for a VIP ticket, okay to hold a sign in the reviewing stands?
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    Jul 05, 2013 5:33 AM GMT
    The little fat guy is kind of obnoxious.. The whole video is a sad reflection...icon_cry.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 5:40 AM GMT
    Shout "FIRE!" in a crowded theater and you can expect to get trampled on. Tough shit.
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    Jul 05, 2013 5:46 AM GMT
    theantijock saidOf course that's disturbing. So how do we judge whether or not someone is provoking violence?

    If I protest down the street from a military funeral, is that respectful enough. If I protest on the cemetery grounds during the burial, have I stepped over a line of decency. If I disrupt the ceremony not just with signs but with my voice, as mourners are expressing their grief, would I not expect to be manhandled the fuck out of there?

    I remember at a Lauderdale pride parade when some scumbag paid a plane to skywrite some Jesus stuff directly above the pride festival. Super rude. I thought that person should have been arrested for graffiti. Didn't they just arrest some guy who protested a bank in chalk? One blows away, one washes away in the rain so what's the difference. Now I'm not saying skywriting Jesus over Pride deserves antiaircraft missiles, but I wonder where's the line.

    A protest across the street is one thing. But what if that guy tried marching in the pride parade with that sign. Allowed? Okay to physically prevent that? Is it okay for him to parade his sign through the pride parade audience? What if he paid for a VIP ticket, okay to hold a sign in the reviewing stands?


    Maybe the answer is Security like there is at other events. That guy shouldn't be in the parade with his sign, and those people celebrating shouldn't have to lose their good time on this one day, policing, when they should be having a good time.
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    Jul 05, 2013 5:58 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    Maybe the answer is Security like there is at other events. That guy shouldn't be in the parade with his sign, and those people celebrating shouldn't have to lose their good time on this one day, policing, when they should be having a good time.


    My preference would be for respect. Barring that....

    turbobilly saidShout "FIRE!" in a crowded theater and you can expect to get trampled on. Tough shit.


    ...Holy crap...FIRE?...

    ....send the shirtless fat man charging through to clear the way.
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:00 AM GMT
    As if I'm going to follow after some shirtless fat guy...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:04 AM GMT
    Oh you're quick tonight. You must've just gotten laid.
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:13 AM GMT
    theantijock saidOh you're quick tonight. You must've just gotten laid.


    What is this "laid" you speak of? Even my hands refuse to talk to me....icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:14 AM GMT
    K well.. I think the idiots screaming at the protesters are actually in the wrong.

    Freedom of speech is protected by law. However laying your hands on someone because you don't have enough personal resolve to turn the other way is not.

    But of course alcohol was probably involved... that lard ass was stumbling all over the place.
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:16 AM GMT
    turbobilly said
    theantijock saidOh you're quick tonight. You must've just gotten laid.


    What is this "laid" you speak of? Even my hands refuse to talk to me....icon_sad.gif


    Not my fault. All I asked for was an egg sandwich first.
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:18 AM GMT
    And after that?
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:23 AM GMT
    I am appalled by this. People should have the maturity to act the proper way when someone is using their given rights to express their views. Respect is a two-way street.
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:34 AM GMT
    turbobilly saidAnd after that?


    After that? Do I look like a precog?

    precog_1-220x165.jpg

    The deal was an egg sammich and sex. Then we'll see.

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    Jul 05, 2013 6:57 AM GMT
    more and more of us are certainly less and less tolerant of these Jesus people, so called christians or anti gay homophobes who show up at our door steps antagonizing with their propaganda and just by the very sight of them us pride goers are supposed to laugh or ignore them, they are putting themselves in harms way, and they know it, im sure they didn't expect someone to literally fight back. Did these antagonists pay to get into the festival? who let them in?

    I am sure it would be the same if gay people or black people showed up and carried signs, bullhorns and yelling at a KKK rally then used the free speech in order to be there, those gay and black people would also be putting themselves in harms way just to get "a message across"

    throw in all day alcohol, fat guy and short guy should have said their peace and lady with the baby stroller, should have said hers and all walked away, the crowd left standing laughing at the antagonists like most of us do

    see, oppression hurts, this was self expression in your face

    oh, I liked the fact the cop who was interviewing the lady with baby was wearing rainbow beads from the festival icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 1:57 PM GMT
    I dunno, I thought that was pretty funny ahha. Technically it's not legal but those guys had it coming to them. If I was there I would have watched with enjoyment like the camera guy...icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
    Don't agree with the hateful preachers but the actions of the shirtless guy and the woman were uncalled for.

    Just ignore the people with the signs, they go there for a reaction.
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    Jul 05, 2013 3:26 PM GMT
    GordHunter saidViolence solves nothing.
    People have a right to protest (that is part of "freedom" in the U.S. is it not?)just as Pride or any other cultural event is allowed,accepted, and celebrated.

    Confronting any oppressor with violence just gives "them" more power....you're just feeding the beast.
    If you ignore, they end up looking like an ass. If you resort to their tactics...or in this case, choose violence, you are the ass.

    Anyways, by the looks of it, the guy was protesting quietly..the gang that attacked him was pretty f'ing obnoxious...a classless move on their part and nothing to be proud of...my 2cents.



    Agreed. These guys weren't Westboro types.
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    Jul 05, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
    what a paradox this scene presents. On the one hand violence is always a step backward. On the other hand it's a sure sign of progress when even straight rednecks are becoming fed up with religious fundamentalists.
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    Jul 05, 2013 3:55 PM GMT
    WHERE IS THE TOLERANCE FROM THE BIG FAT FAGS AND UGLY LESBIANS? PATHETIC
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    Jul 05, 2013 4:11 PM GMT
    This is exactly why Westboro hasn't had any violence really towards them. They keep lawyers around and it would play into their game.
    Here in Atlanta, there is always some protestors at pride, which most people respond to verbally or with other signs and being outrageous but never had a violent incident.