Putting on muscle while on Prednisone?

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    Jul 05, 2013 6:02 AM GMT
    Hey everyone! I'm gonna be tapering off of a steroid called prednisone for the next four months after a really bad attack of Ulcerative Colitis. Prednisone is a class of steroids that causes muscle degeneration and other fun side effects like acne. I really want to put on muscle weight, but everything that I have read basically says that it is really hard to build muscle. Has anyone here had success building muscle while taking prednisone, and if so do you have any recommendations for how to go about it? I don't wanna wait four months to start building muscle again! Thanks a bunch!
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:04 AM GMT
    Four months is a LONG time to taper off...icon_question.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 6:05 AM GMT
    turbobilly saidFour months is a LONG time to taper off...icon_question.gif


    Yeah, it sucks. Right now I'm on 40 mg, and each week we reduce it by 2.5 mg. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 05, 2013 7:56 AM GMT
    scruffLA said4 months on prednisone? dam, not a drug to mess with, why so long? I took methyl prednisone 4mg for my disk degeneration back sciatica pain before I started a physical therapy regimen, 21 day dose, 6 the first week, 5 the next week, 4 the next..etc down to one, acne was pretty severe esp upper back, I had to see a dermatologist after to get rid of the acne caused by this steroid

    im sorry you have to take this drug and for so long, hope your being monitored closely, I would wait until your off until you start building again esp with your colitis

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    Jul 05, 2013 12:04 PM GMT
    Heya, muscle degeneration is one of the side effects, it might not be a side effect which affects you. If you are taking other meds its most probably a good idea to have a chat with your doctor. Regards
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    Jul 05, 2013 1:34 PM GMT
    There's a douche at my gym, the type who trains hard but talks nonstop, LOUD, the type you can't tune out. That's why I know he didn't buy the house on the golf course in Lloyd Harbor for himself but his wife, 3D printing's a good long-term investment, he took his family to Miami Beach and they stayed at the Delano, and that his golf season was ruined given the results of his MRI but he could brag that he was on prednisone as he curled a 90 lb barbell with such spectacularly bad form that he was likely causing himself even more damage. Douche.
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    Jul 05, 2013 1:42 PM GMT
    pf0081 saidI was on that stuff for 6 months once, I was bloated all the time,especially my face



    What was your experience with weight lifting while you were taking it? Any muscle growth?
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    Jul 05, 2013 1:44 PM GMT
    KZNindian saidHeya, muscle degeneration is one of the side effects, it might not be a side effect which affects you. If you are taking other meds its most probably a good idea to have a chat with your doctor. Regards



    That's a good point. Maybe it won't affect me that much. I should ask. I never understand how to interpret these side effects.
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    Jul 05, 2013 1:46 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidThere's a douche at my gym, the type who trains hard but talks nonstop, LOUD, the type you can't tune out. That's why I know he didn't buy the house on the golf course in Lloyd Harbor for himself but his wife, 3D printing's a good long-term investment, he took his family to Miami Beach and they stayed at the Delano, and that his golf season was ruined given the results of his MRI but he could brag that he was on prednisone as he curled a 90 lb barbell with such spectacularly bad form that he was likely causing himself even more damage. Douche.



    Jaja! That's hilarioius! I hate people like that! And then they drop their weights dramatically and look around to see who's watching; all you can think is, "No one's impressed bud."
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    Jul 05, 2013 1:55 PM GMT
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    scruffLA said4 months on prednisone? dam, not a drug to mess with, why so long? I took methyl prednisone 4mg for my disk degeneration back sciatica pain before I started a physical therapy regimen, 21 day dose, 6 the first week, 5 the next week, 4 the next..etc down to one, acne was pretty severe esp upper back, I had to see a dermatologist after to get rid of the acne caused by this steroid

    im sorry you have to take this drug and for so long, hope your being monitored closely, I would wait until your off until you start building again esp with your colitis




    They told me that I need to reduce it very gradually or else I could have another bad flare up. I was in the hospital for two weeks, so it was pretty serious. As a result, we're just beign super cautious. I don't ever wanna be in that situation again.

    On a side note, I really wish this were like the steroids that caused muscle growth, because then I would be packin on the muscles! jaja! Buuutttt, then I would probably also get addicted to steroids. Jaja.
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    Jul 05, 2013 1:57 PM GMT
    Have you tried drug-free approaches to treatment? Check out the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" by Elaine Gottschall. I combine this with a strict Paleo diet (one that is designed for autoimmune problems and does not contradict the book I just mentioned) and have had good results. Stress management is also extremely important. When I am unable to keep stress and certain negative emotions under control the UC symptoms get worse.
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    Jul 05, 2013 2:09 PM GMT
    Nivek saidHave you tried drug-free approaches to treatment? Check out the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" by Elaine Gottschall. I combine this with a strict Paleo diet (one that is designed for autoimmune problems and does not contradict the book I just mentioned) and have had good results. Stress management is also extremely important. When I am unable to keep stress and certain negative emotions under control the UC symptoms get worse.



    Thanks so much! I'm definitely gonna check those out! I'm doing everything I can at this point, both drugs and natural. I'm on Remicade which saved me from getting my colon removed, so I will be staying on that at all cost. The prednisone is just temporary, thank god. Yeah, stress management is huge. If I'm in a flare and I get stressed, I feel it instantly. It's kind of a nice insentive to not freak out. I'm also taking fish oils, multivitamins and vitamin D; I work out; I eat a pretty low fiber diet (lots of chicken); I don't drink (didn't anyway); and I'm gonna be starting a mindfulness class soon. I'm so glad another UC person messaged me! Thanks a bunch!
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    Jul 05, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
    I just read about this for a class. good news.

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/89/12/6198.full
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    Jul 05, 2013 2:21 PM GMT
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    Nivek saidHave you tried drug-free approaches to treatment? Check out the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" by Elaine Gottschall. I combine this with a strict Paleo diet (one that is designed for autoimmune problems and does not contradict the book I just mentioned) and have had good results. Stress management is also extremely important. When I am unable to keep stress and certain negative emotions under control the UC symptoms get worse.



    Thanks so much! I'm definitely gonna check those out! I'm doing everything I can at this point, both drugs and natural. I'm on Remicade which saved me from getting my colon removed, so I will be staying on that at all cost. The prednisone is just temporary, thank god. Yeah, stress management is huge. If I'm in a flare and I get stressed, I feel it instantly. It's kind of a nice insentive to not freak out. I'm also taking fish oils, multivitamins and vitamin D; I work out; I eat a pretty low fiber diet (lots of chicken); I don't drink (didn't anyway); and I'm gonna be starting a mindfulness class soon. I'm so glad another UC person messaged me! Thanks a bunch!
    Am impressed you are proactively trying to help yourself instead of just waiting to be healed by a doctor. Am really curious to find out if the mindfulness class helps and what it entails in terms of commitment after the class is over.
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    Jul 05, 2013 2:27 PM GMT
    blackstrap saidI just read about this for a class. good news.

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/89/12/6198.full


    Thanks so much for the article!
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    Jul 05, 2013 2:32 PM GMT
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    Nivek saidHave you tried drug-free approaches to treatment? Check out the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" by Elaine Gottschall. I combine this with a strict Paleo diet (one that is designed for autoimmune problems and does not contradict the book I just mentioned) and have had good results. Stress management is also extremely important. When I am unable to keep stress and certain negative emotions under control the UC symptoms get worse.



    Thanks so much! I'm definitely gonna check those out! I'm doing everything I can at this point, both drugs and natural. I'm on Remicade which saved me from getting my colon removed, so I will be staying on that at all cost. The prednisone is just temporary, thank god. Yeah, stress management is huge. If I'm in a flare and I get stressed, I feel it instantly. It's kind of a nice insentive to not freak out. I'm also taking fish oils, multivitamins and vitamin D; I work out; I eat a pretty low fiber diet (lots of chicken); I don't drink (didn't anyway); and I'm gonna be starting a mindfulness class soon. I'm so glad another UC person messaged me! Thanks a bunch!
    Am impressed you are proactively trying to help yourself instead of just waiting to be healed by a doctor. Am really curious to find out if the mindfulness class helps and what it entails in terms of commitment after the class is over.



    Thanks! icon_smile.gif I'm determined to take control of this thing so I don't get really sick again. I'm also looking into probiotic therapy and the second I get another case of C Diff, the doctors at Mayo say I can get fecal transplant therapy, which I think will be hugely helpful for bacterial flow. Also, staying away from antibiotics and NSAIDs. I'm pulling out all the guns!

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    Jul 15, 2013 6:08 PM GMT
    minnesota89 saidHey everyone! I'm gonna be tapering off of a steroid called prednisone for the next four months after a really bad attack of Ulcerative Colitis. Prednisone is a class of steroids that causes muscle degeneration and other fun side effects like acne. I really want to put on muscle weight, but everything that I have read basically says that it is really hard to build muscle. Has anyone here had success building muscle while taking prednisone, and if so do you have any recommendations for how to go about it? I don't wanna wait four months to start building muscle again! Thanks a bunch!


    Sup d00d?!

    Really sorry to read that icon_neutral.gif (I can't emote a virtual hug, so you get smiley instead icon_biggrin.gif ) First, I'm not a medical doctor, but I've known several ppl on prednisone. Steroid myopathy (from corticosteroid) should be fairly rare, especially with short term use. In the future, I hope you can manage your condition in a safe way (as suggested above), and mitigate (or elimante) the use of prednisone all together.

    But keep positive through the process. Sometimes we get knocked down. It's the long term focus that wins any race or helps you achieve any goal! Please feel free to e-mail me at anytime if you want some workout programs. I'm more than happy to always help icon_biggrin.gif

  • FlypinHigh

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    Jul 16, 2013 7:07 PM GMT
    I've been on high doses of prednisone numerous times. I think it fucked up my knees. I've been on Remicade for the past 6-7 years and pretty much can eat anything now. Previous to that, I tried every diet and natural remedy; nothing worked. Prednisone also remains in your system for some time after you are off it. I started working out while tapering off prednisone, not sure how much muscle I put on during that time but since I was just starting out the weights were very light.
  • Fargo

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    Jul 30, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
    I have been on Prednisone for about 15 years now as I take it as an immunosupporesive in my kidney transplant. The current dose is 5mg but that didn't have any effect on muscle development when I am serious in the gym and taking enough supplements (protein+amino).

    Alas, I can't take much protein now since the kidney is failing again. At any rate, don't let this stop you from hitting the weights, maybe it should make you even work harder and with more determination now.