Were the original Egyptians black?

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    Jul 07, 2013 11:20 PM GMT
    Well?

    As in the one who ruled and built the pyramids....

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    Jul 07, 2013 11:21 PM GMT
    Yes.

    Next question.
  • deep388

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    Jul 07, 2013 11:29 PM GMT
    Could they have been a multi ethnic society? Some of the ancient hieroglyphics seem to suggest that they were a multitude of various brown-bronzed-darker-brownish red skin tones and facial features (like India in a sense).
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    Jul 07, 2013 11:48 PM GMT
    no
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    Jul 07, 2013 11:55 PM GMT
    The ancient Egyptians left huge amounts of self-depicting art including paintings. The most realistic example is the painted stone bust of Queen Nefertiti.
    The native Egyptians are mostly shown as dark brown. In scenes of Egyptians dealing with other peoples the Egyptians are clearly distinguished from Nubians (black) and Canaanites (lighter brown).

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  • Generaleclect...

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    Jul 08, 2013 1:01 AM GMT
    Nonsense.

    We all know Egyptians looked like this since the dawn of time:

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    Jul 08, 2013 1:14 AM GMT
    JESUS CHRIST!!!

    One more race thread and I am quiting realjock!

    WHO the feck cares!

    Since joining realjock I have never felt more uncomfortable about being white and being being around nonwhite people in real life, this website is the most racist thing I have ever been involved in.
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    Jul 08, 2013 1:16 AM GMT
    IrishDarren saidJESUS CHRIST!!!

    One more race thread and I am quiting realjock!

    WHO the feck cares!

    Since joining realjock I have never felt more uncomfortable about being white and being being around nonwhite people in real life, this website is the most racist thing I have ever been involved in.


    Calm down, I wouldn't consider this a race thread.
    Stop trying to turn it into one.
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    Jul 08, 2013 1:24 AM GMT
    Rene_Aensland said
    IrishDarren saidJESUS CHRIST!!!

    One more race thread and I am quiting realjock!

    WHO the feck cares!

    Since joining realjock I have never felt more uncomfortable about being white and being being around nonwhite people in real life, this website is the most racist thing I have ever been involved in.


    Calm down, I wouldn't consider this a race thread.
    Stop trying to turn it into one.


    I'm sorry, I just find it soo tediousome how these threads are always popular and you and I both know it will turn into a race thread.

    How about "were the original egyptians afraid of cats?" or "were the original egyptians monotheists?"
  • Stregone

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    Jul 08, 2013 2:44 AM GMT
    I believe they were nubians. The royalty doesn't always represent a country's majority, in the case of Cleopatra she was greek (of greek ancestors) and is said to have been very fair skined
  • Rhi_Bran

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    Jul 08, 2013 3:20 AM GMT
    IrishDarren said
    Rene_Aensland said
    IrishDarren saidJESUS CHRIST!!!

    One more race thread and I am quiting realjock!

    WHO the feck cares!

    Since joining realjock I have never felt more uncomfortable about being white and being being around nonwhite people in real life, this website is the most racist thing I have ever been involved in.


    Calm down, I wouldn't consider this a race thread.
    Stop trying to turn it into one.


    I'm sorry, I just find it soo tediousome how these threads are always popular and you and I both know it will turn into a race thread.

    How about "were the original egyptians afraid of cats?" or "were the original egyptians monotheists?"


    First off, cool your tits.

    Second, it's a legitimate question, I think. I believe they'd be akin to Nubians. Egyptians, as they were in ancient Egypt, no longer exist as an ethnic group. Theirs was largely reshaped by the expanding Islamic world.

    Third, "tediousome"? Really? Did you have two words in mind and mix them up? icon_confused.gif
  • Apparition

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    Jul 08, 2013 3:51 AM GMT
    according to the original paintings, there seems to be several skin shades, none of them really being as dark as say sudanese, but many light skin arab-looking people with cornrows, and some darker skinned people but still in the chocolate colour range.

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  • bro4bro

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    Jul 08, 2013 4:24 AM GMT
    Read Herodotus. He lived in the 5th century BC, and he traveled to Egypt. In fact, National Geographic has finally admitted that his version of how the pyramids were built is probably the correct one (he didn't have any brilliant engineering insight - he simply asked the Egyptians how they did it).

    Herodotus made a definite distinction between the Egyptians, who were colored as depicted in the hieroglyphics, and the "sunburnt races" (Nubians and Ethiopians), who were black. This was before Alexander conquered Egypt so at the time there was no Macedonian influence on the Egyptian race. And, he was no racist - he said the Ethiopians were the best looking people on earth.
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    Jul 08, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidRead Herodotus. He lived in the 5th century BC, and he traveled to Egypt. In fact, National Geographic has finally admitted that his version of how the pyramids were built is probably the correct one (he didn't have any brilliant engineering insight - he simply asked the Egyptians how they did it).

    Herodotus made a definite distinction between the Egyptians, who were colored as depicted in the hieroglyphics, and the "sunburnt races" (Nubians and Ethiopians), who were black. This was before Alexander conquered Egypt so at the time there was no Macedonian influence on the Egyptian race. And, he was no racist - he said the Ethiopians were the best looking people on earth.


    Yes, well stated.

    If we can trust ancient myths and some levels of archaeological evidence, and the practical distance of where the "Land of Punt" could be, the supposed ancestral homeland of the Ancient Egyptians, it's most likely that that the founders of Ancient Egypt were Cushitic persons (many times Egyptian nobility or kings are depicted with reddish black/brown skin), which you can find in modern Ethiopia and Somalia. For the most part however, Ancient Egypt was a multicultural society, and at various times throughout its very long history was headed variously by Cushitic persons, Nubians, Semites, and Greeks (in my opinion Ancient Egypt officially ends when the children of Mark Anthony, allegedly, and Julius Caesar to Cleopatra are proscribed by Octavian).

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  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 08, 2013 5:18 AM GMT
    They were the same as they are today.
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    Jul 08, 2013 6:02 AM GMT
    I forgot I made this.

    I'm surprised the Afrocentric crowd hasn't came into proclaim..."Dey Egyptians be black mutherfuckas!!! Cleopatra be a Nubian qween!! She a sista!!!"


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    Jul 08, 2013 6:04 AM GMT
    Sharpton saidIts really ridiculous that someone can ask a question with a very obvious answer(yes-ish btw) with tons of comments yet my 3 very hot button topics get ignored.

    Depth my foot......
    Oh and IrishDarren, welcome to America!


    LOL! You're an idiot dude!!!

    They weren't black! Find a credible source not centered around some far-right African website to say they were black. They may have had dark skin, but they were NOT black.

    NEXTTTTTTTT!!!!!!
  • Apparition

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    Jul 08, 2013 7:45 AM GMT
    cleopatra was definitely not black. she was greek.
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    Jul 08, 2013 8:46 AM GMT
    Black people are the best people in the world.
    They invented all the things including televisions, cars and the ipad.
    They are the sexiest men (and women) on the planet.
    All other skin colours are inferior.


    Anyone who says any different is definitely racist.
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    Jul 08, 2013 9:03 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidWere the original Egyptians black?... They may have had dark skin, but they were NOT black...


    Let's first define 'black'.

    Are you referring to a skin shade; a descent from a particular location; a descent from a particular location within a limited time frame of a defined number of millenia; a particular culture of a specific time in history, or of our time; a threshold percentage of specific genetic markers; people of an Egyptian national identify despite or depending on migration patterns? ....

    Vague terminology is vague.
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    Jul 08, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidI forgot I made this.

    I'm surprised the Afrocentric crowd hasn't came into proclaim..."Dey Egyptians be black mutherfuckas!!! Cleopatra be a Nubian qween!! She a sista!!!"


    Mmmm, unfunny.

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    Jul 08, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
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    Egyptians to the left, Nubian to the right.

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  • ai82

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    Jul 08, 2013 11:51 PM GMT
    _SAGE_ said
    jmusmc85 saidWere the original Egyptians black?... They may have had dark skin, but they were NOT black...


    Let's first define 'black'.

    Are you referring to a skin shade; a descent from a particular location; a descent from a particular location within a limited time frame of a defined number of millenia; a particular culture of a specific time in history, or of our time; a threshold percentage of specific genetic markers; people of an Egyptian national identify despite or depending on migration patterns? ....

    Vague terminology is vague.


    true
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    Jul 09, 2013 12:10 AM GMT
    Well, some may argue they didn't build the pyramids...at least not without any help. icon_wink.gif

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    Jul 09, 2013 12:26 AM GMT
    gayinterest saidBlack people are the best people in the world.
    They invented all the things including televisions, cars and the ipad.
    They are the sexiest men (and women) on the planet.
    All other skin colours are inferior.


    Anyone who says any different is definitely racist.



    This should be flagged for inappropriate content but it's so spot on... Lmfao