Question about Gay Marriage

  • bigtits

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    Jul 08, 2013 7:09 AM GMT
    Why is it when the mainstream news do stories about gay marriage ,it is almost always about lesbians?
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    Jul 08, 2013 12:20 PM GMT
    Lesbians are more socially acceptable than gay men, because our country is run by a bunch of pervy middle aged men who are turned on by two chicks going at it, and repulsed by two men going at it.
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    Jul 08, 2013 12:45 PM GMT
    I think that most Gay men are not involved in a monogamous relationship whereas Lesbians are ... They idealize the marriage concept to society as they are Monogamous.
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    Jul 08, 2013 12:52 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidLesbians are more socially acceptable than gay men, because our country is run by a bunch of pervy middle aged men who are turned on by two chicks going at it, and repulsed by two men going at it.

    Yeah, the straight skin mags that straights whack to are full of lesbian sex acts that are just as homosexual as the gay male sex being condemned by the right-wing politicians and Christian church leaders. That inconsistency tells me that their outrage isn't really based on fear for the family or adherence to God's laws, but rather is an expression of their own internal conflicts, and personal agendas covered with a veneer of bogus sociology and religion.

    But I suspect that some in the news media think they're doing us a favor, and avoiding some heat being brought on themselves, by showing more lesbians in committed relationships than gay men. Lesbians are the easier "sell" and less likely to cause an angry reaction among the straight majority of their audience.

    But one could also argue that ultimately hurts gay men, by delaying the normalizing of gay relationships in the public mind. Having grown up in the Black Civil Rights Era, I know that seeing Black actors on movie & TV screens, even in TV commercials every day, and in the news, helped to make Black lives seem "normal" and mainstream to majority White audiences, and their issues more real. And I expect that kind of exposure would do the same for gays today.
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    Jul 08, 2013 12:57 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidLesbians are more socially acceptable than gay men, because our country is run by a bunch of pervy middle aged men who are turned on by two chicks going at it, and repulsed by two men going at it.


    All this.
    +1.
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    Jul 08, 2013 1:07 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidLesbians are more socially acceptable than gay men, because our country is run by a bunch of pervy middle aged men who are turned on by two chicks going at it, and repulsed by two men going at it.

    Very true - except for the pervy part. Most guys like to think about that.
    In other news, I saw two lesbians on Judge Judy and, at the end, one of them asked the Judge to hang out with them.
    Awkwaaaard.
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    Jul 08, 2013 1:07 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidLesbians are more socially acceptable than gay men, because our country is run by a bunch of pervy middle aged men who are turned on by two chicks going at it, and repulsed by two men going at it.


    But the marrying lesbians portrayed by the news are always repulsive.
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    Jul 08, 2013 1:54 PM GMT
    Lesbians are more accepted because of the way gay men misbehave at pride celebrations which are frequently televised by the liberal news media.

    It's also much rarer to see Lesbians kissing and holding hands in public.

    Liberal Television and Movies also frequently project gay males as feminine, victims, abusers or child molesters.

    The most famous mainstreamed gay movie is Brokeback Mtn, where 2 gay drunks have unhappy lives. Queer as Folk about unhappy drunken, drug and sex addicts who for the most part, wind up unhappy in the end. The lesbians wound up happy.

    Even a seemingly positive show like the cancelled "The New Normal" reinforced gay male stereotypes of narcissistic, self involved, drama queens.

    A movie like "Shelter" which depicts positive masculine gay role models is buried and never mainstreamed to the heterosexual audience.

    What gays don't seem to understand is that there liberal friends want gays to look and act differently than heterosexuals so that heterosexuals can easily know whose gay.

    Liberal heterosexuals are actually very uncomfortable with masculine gay men and feminine lesbians.
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    Jul 08, 2013 2:45 PM GMT
    ^ That is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen on RJ. And I've seen a lot of dumb posts.

    Lesbians are pictured more often in SSM news articles (a premise I don't accept, by the way) because of nasty pride marches and liberals. And liberals don't like masculine gay men or feminine lesbians.

    Silly. Just silly.

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    Jul 08, 2013 2:47 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidLesbians are more socially acceptable than gay men, because our country is run by a bunch of pervy middle aged men who are turned on by two chicks going at it, and repulsed by two men going at it.

    VERY true! The one correction is that our lesbian fantasy revolves around two hawt chicks going at it and that doesn't exist much in lesbian RL.
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    Jul 08, 2013 2:49 PM GMT


    icon_lol.gif @ the two posters above showme.
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    Jul 08, 2013 2:50 PM GMT
    matmuscle saidI think that most Gay men are not involved in a monogamous relationship whereas Lesbians are ... They idealize the marriage concept to society as they are Monogamous.

    +1

    Lesbian couples have a better track record on monogamy than straight couples.

    http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/07/02/monogamy-gay-men-lesbians-and-straights/
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    Jul 08, 2013 3:18 PM GMT
    bigtits saidWhy is it when the mainstream news do stories about gay marriage ,it is almost always about lesbians?


    From what I have seen, I have not found that to be the case.

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    Jul 08, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    This is one of those questions for which we will never get agreement on but I'd rather think its because women are ultimately nesters.

    I think that more lesbians avail themselves to the opportunity to marry in places where it is legal for them to do so than do gay men. I have no proof of this because I don't care to take the time to do the research, it's just a hunch.

    Anyone got real data on the number of married lesbian couples vs. married gay male couple in places where it is legal?
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    Jul 08, 2013 3:33 PM GMT
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    bigtits saidWhy is it when the mainstream news do stories about gay marriage ,it is almost always about lesbians?


    From what I have seen, I have not found that to be the case.


    And then sadly, ONE picture of Ellen and her wife completely floors all of the pictures you see here.
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    Jul 08, 2013 3:39 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidThis is one of those questions for which we will never get agreement on but I'd rather think its because women are ultimately nesters.

    I think that more lesbians avail themselves to the opportunity to marry in places where it is legal for them to do so than do gay men. I have no proof of this because I don't care to take the time to do the research, it's just a hunch.

    Anyone got real data on the number of married lesbian couples vs. married gay male couple in places where it is legal?


    This is old info, sorry!

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/same-sex-marriage/

    Men married 53.7 % and women were 46.3 % out of about 7,500 marriages in total. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 08, 2013 3:43 PM GMT
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    UndercoverMan saidThis is one of those questions for which we will never get agreement on but I'd rather think its because women are ultimately nesters.

    I think that more lesbians avail themselves to the opportunity to marry in places where it is legal for them to do so than do gay men. I have no proof of this because I don't care to take the time to do the research, it's just a hunch.

    Anyone got real data on the number of married lesbian couples vs. married gay male couple in places where it is legal?


    This is old info, sorry!

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/same-sex-marriage/

    Men married 53.7 % and women were 46.3 % out of about 7,500 marriages in total. icon_wink.gif


    But there are probably more gay men than lesbians, so maybe our marriage rate is lower. Who knows, really, I don't think we have good data yet.

    http://igfculturewatch.com/1999/11/30/more-gays-than-lesbians/
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    Jul 08, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
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    UndercoverMan saidThis is one of those questions for which we will never get agreement on but I'd rather think its because women are ultimately nesters.

    I think that more lesbians avail themselves to the opportunity to marry in places where it is legal for them to do so than do gay men. I have no proof of this because I don't care to take the time to do the research, it's just a hunch.

    Anyone got real data on the number of married lesbian couples vs. married gay male couple in places where it is legal?


    This is old info, sorry!

    Men married 53.7 % and women were 46.3 % out of about 7,500 marriages in total.


    One data point is better than no data point.

    So this only confirms for me that often our hunches are wrong.

    Thanks for the info.
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    Jul 08, 2013 3:53 PM GMT
    As long as we're speculating, if in fact lesbians are taking early advantage of marriage rights at a higher per capita rate than gay men, I can think of a good reason for that.

    In my experience, more lesbians have kids than gay men do. And if I had kids I'd be rushing to get married as soon as I could, because it solves all kinds of thorny issues. For gay couples without kids, it's probably not quite as pressing a decision.

    I would expect things to even out as we get more experience, but who knows.

  • HottJoe

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    Jul 08, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidLesbians are more accepted because of the way gay men misbehave at pride celebrations which are frequently televised by the liberal news media.

    It's also much rarer to see Lesbians kissing and holding hands in public.

    Liberal Television and Movies also frequently project gay males as feminine, victims, abusers or child molesters.

    The most famous mainstreamed gay movie is Brokeback Mtn, where 2 gay drunks have unhappy lives. Queer as Folk about unhappy drunken, drug and sex addicts who for the most part, wind up unhappy in the end. The lesbians wound up happy.

    Even a seemingly positive show like the cancelled "The New Normal" reinforced gay male stereotypes of narcissistic, self involved, drama queens.

    A movie like "Shelter" which depicts positive masculine gay role models is buried and never mainstreamed to the heterosexual audience.

    What gays don't seem to understand is that there liberal friends want gays to look and act differently than heterosexuals so that heterosexuals can easily know whose gay.

    Liberal heterosexuals are actually very uncomfortable with masculine gay men and feminine lesbians.

    So you're saying you think gay men are the problem?icon_rolleyes.gif Self hating is hateful.
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    Jul 08, 2013 4:40 PM GMT
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    metta8 said
    bigtits saidWhy is it when the mainstream news do stories about gay marriage ,it is almost always about lesbians?


    From what I have seen, I have not found that to be the case.


    And then sadly, ONE picture of Ellen and her wife completely floors all of the pictures you see here.

    I don't get what you mean by this.

    Aside from Ellen, there are actually relatively few famous lesbian couples compared to how many famous gay couples there are.
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    Jul 08, 2013 4:41 PM GMT
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    matmuscle saidI think that most Gay men are not involved in a monogamous relationship whereas Lesbians are ... They idealize the marriage concept to society as they are Monogamous.

    +1

    Lesbian couples have a better track record on monogamy than straight couples.

    http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/07/02/monogamy-gay-men-lesbians-and-straights/



    and they always will. You are putting two women together.
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    Jul 08, 2013 5:04 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Rene_Aensland said
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    bigtits saidWhy is it when the mainstream news do stories about gay marriage ,it is almost always about lesbians?


    From what I have seen, I have not found that to be the case.


    And then sadly, ONE picture of Ellen and her wife completely floors all of the pictures you see here.

    I don't get what you mean by this.

    Aside from Ellen, there are actually relatively few famous lesbian couples compared to how many famous gay couples there are.


    Exactly how is a lesbian not gay?
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 08, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    HottJoe said
    Rene_Aensland said
    metta8 said
    bigtits saidWhy is it when the mainstream news do stories about gay marriage ,it is almost always about lesbians?


    From what I have seen, I have not found that to be the case.


    And then sadly, ONE picture of Ellen and her wife completely floors all of the pictures you see here.

    I don't get what you mean by this.

    Aside from Ellen, there are actually relatively few famous lesbian couples compared to how many famous gay couples there are.


    Exactly how is a lesbian not gay?

    Good point! Lesbian are gay too. Therefore this entire thread is about as irrelevant as any masc/fem, black/white, short/tall thread on here!!! We're all in one community. Way to go, Freedom!icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 08, 2013 5:48 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    freedomisntfree said
    HottJoe said
    Rene_Aensland said
    metta8 said
    bigtits saidWhy is it when the mainstream news do stories about gay marriage ,it is almost always about lesbians?


    From what I have seen, I have not found that to be the case.


    And then sadly, ONE picture of Ellen and her wife completely floors all of the pictures you see here.

    I don't get what you mean by this.

    Aside from Ellen, there are actually relatively few famous lesbian couples compared to how many famous gay couples there are.


    Exactly how is a lesbian not gay?

    Good point! Lesbian are gay too. Therefore this entire thread is about as irrelevant as any masc/fem, black/white, short/tall thread on here!!! We're all in one community. Way to go, Freedom!icon_wink.gif


    This is why I generally use the term 'homosexual' versus gay or lesbo or whatever.