Hit 'em where it hurts

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    Nov 06, 2008 5:38 PM GMT
    Kind of a companion thread to MotorBrett's, this one with linkage.

    So it's no secret that the Church of LDS was one of the largest contributing groups to 8, as well as FL's 2 and AZ's 102 I believe. So....I'm passing along a message that seems to be going viral. Those motherfuckers wanna get involved in politics? Wanna strip the rights away from citizens so that they are in-line with your "beliefs"? Two can play that game. Marriage is "one man and one woman", so gays don't have the "right" to get married. Fine. There's a separation of church and state; if you get involved with shaping politics, you're no longer an "exempt" organization. Here's the quoted text:

    [quote]If you're angry that a church can meddle with another state's political statutes, here's something that you can do.

    To report the LDS Church to the IRS, simply take 5 minutes to print these articles out and any others you can find:

    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_10839546
    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10842051

    Then print and fill out http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf

    List the taxpayer as:

    Thomas S. Monson, et al
    50 East North Temple
    Salt Lake City, Utah 84150

    List his occupation as President and the business as the ridiculously full name of the church (same address).

    Check the boxes for False Exemption and Public/Political Corruption.

    Then in the Comments section demand that the LDS Church be fined and their tax-exempt status revoked for repeated and blatant violations of the IRS's separate of church and state rules, and for conspiring to interfere with a state's political process.

    Check Yes under "Are books/records available?" and write in "campaign finance records."

    You don't have to provide any of your own personal info. Mail the form and the printed articles to:

    Internal Revenue Service
    Fresno, CA 93888


    I can't confirm the truth to this or not, but I'm researching this info below:

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    The Mormon Church and its members were some of the largest donors in California’s Proposition 8 measure.Universally, we need to avoid putting any more money into the Church’s coffers by boycotting all companies where a Mormon church member holds an officer’s position or a large majority interest. This includes:MARRIOTT HOTELS
    PRICELINE.COM
    ALBERTSONS GROCERY STORES
    K-SWISS SHOES
    HOUSE OF FABRICS
    NATIONWIDE INSURANCE INCLUDING ITS AFFILIATES SUCH AS ALLIED.
    SWIFT TRANSPORTATION
    EARTH SHELL
    CORVIS
    HUNTSMAN CHEMICAL
    OAKLEY
    NPS PHARMECEUTICALS
    MEGAHERTZ CORPORATION
    CORNERSTONE REALTY INCOME TRUST
    KNIGHT TRANSPORTATION (TRUCKING)
    MERIT MEDICAL
    JETBLUE

    PLUS all those companies that are directly owned by the LDS CHURCH outside of Utah, many of which are FOR PROFIT.

    Join the effort and put your dollars into non-Mormon companies that deserve your support![/quote]
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    Nov 06, 2008 6:53 PM GMT
    Beautiful!
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    Nov 06, 2008 7:00 PM GMT
    Thank you! Does anyone know the extent of their holdings in Pepsi? Pepsi would include Taco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut, and other fast food chains.
  • TallGWMvballe...

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    Nov 06, 2008 7:01 PM GMT
    Nice Job!

    Let's all help
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    Nov 06, 2008 7:01 PM GMT
    Can we boycott companies owned by Catholics as well?
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    Nov 06, 2008 7:06 PM GMT
    Especially the catlicks, Munching!

    Here's a nice little video of the LAPD ganging up on a pro gay protester at a rally in LA that even FOX (apparently) said was a peaceful protest.

    The LAPD never learns.

  • cowboyathlete

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    Nov 06, 2008 7:09 PM GMT
    I started a link to this page on the grapevine.
  • tailgaytor

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    Nov 06, 2008 7:39 PM GMT
    If you go to the website of protectmarriage.com, they list businesses that gave endorsements to their cause. I did not find anything about those who might have donated money.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Nov 06, 2008 7:44 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidCan we boycott companies owned by Catholics as well?


    NO!!!!!
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    Nov 06, 2008 8:10 PM GMT
    MikePhilPerez said
    MunchingZombie saidCan we boycott companies owned by Catholics as well?


    NO!!!!!

    Why not? Knights of Columbus were pretty heavy contributors as well.
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    Nov 06, 2008 8:29 PM GMT
    Tailgaytor,

    Who gave money to support or defeat the homophobic Prop Hate
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    Nov 06, 2008 8:31 PM GMT
    There is a catlick church near my house. Today, after work, I'm going to pick up my dog's poop from the area of my yard where they go and I'm going to bag it up and lay it at the front door of that church. Tomorrow, if there's any poop there, I shall do the same to the protestant churches in town.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Nov 06, 2008 8:37 PM GMT
    Texian said
    MikePhilPerez said
    MunchingZombie saidCan we boycott companies owned by Catholics as well?


    NO!!!!!

    Why not? Knights of Columbus were pretty heavy contributors as well.


    Cuz I'm a Catholic and I don't want anyone boycotting my business icon_confused.gif
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Nov 06, 2008 8:49 PM GMT
    McGay saidThere is a catlick church near my house. Today, after work, I'm going to pick up my dog's poop from the area of my yard where they go and I'm going to bag it up and lay it at the front door of that church. Tomorrow, if there's any poop there, I shall do the same to the protestant churches in town.


    Do you think that will further our cause?

    You and I know that will make them fight harder.

  • MikePhilPerez

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    Nov 06, 2008 8:58 PM GMT
    I watched a documentary on TV last night about Mathew Shepherd (rest his soul).

    The priest in the Catholic Church where he lived (I did not see it all, so I guess it was where he lived, as they seem to be his friends) welcomed all gays to his church. Everyone was welcome and from what I saw a lot of gays attend his church. This is what the true Catholic Church is.

    Don't tar all Catholics with the same brush.
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    Nov 06, 2008 8:58 PM GMT
    We're not going to convince others that we deserve equal marriage rights until we believe it ourselves, deep down. But there's still too much self-loathing remaining in our community for this to happen. Often this can leave us so self absorbed that we prioritize superficial short-term gratification over our longer-term well-being.

    So we don't organize or protest. We don't boycott hateful businesses. We don't go into difficult territory and try to change minds. We don't galvanize around a common voice. We still don't have our Martin Luther King.

    So we just wait for the lesbians to have another charity oil wrestling contest and thank them politely for their hard work, while we spend our Saturday nights hidden away numbing the old painful memories. Another cosmo/bump/blowjob please!

    We limit ourselves to being visible one time a year, and then we pour into the streets. But because we've been repressing our identity for the other 364 days, we make complete asses of ourselves on that one day. To straights, we are invisible all year, save for the one day when we become painfully blinding. Why not have a gay pride festival every Sunday? With that frequency of identity release, I guarantee we won't feel the need to shock people anymore. Or maybe every day is gay pride day? Mirror the intimacy straight couples show as though it was commonplace, and then it will be. Too afraid? Get a handgun license and support the 2nd amendment. Or just become a good tackler.

    How many times have you heard that until you respect yourself, no one else will?

    Look. You and your boyfriend are not an absurdity. So stop listening to the other voices that have been looping in your head for all these years (dad, childhood friends, the gym teacher, TV, etc., etc.) and start listening to your own voice. Then get out and fight for the happiness you deserve.

    (If any of you cannot relate to the above, congrats. Now go help someone who still relates. The election is over. Time to show some love.)
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    Nov 06, 2008 9:00 PM GMT
    The following letter was sent from the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to Church leaders in California to be read to all congregations on 29 June 2008:
    http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/california-and-same-sex-marriage
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Nov 06, 2008 9:06 PM GMT
    GAYSPAMMER saidWe're not going to convince others that we deserve equal marriage rights until we believe it ourselves, deep down. But there's still too much self-loathing remaining in our community for this to happen. Often this can leave us so self absorbed that we prioritize superficial short-term gratification over our longer-term well-being.

    So we don't organize or protest. We don't boycott hateful businesses. We don't go into difficult territory and try to change minds. We don't galvanize around a common voice. We still don't have our Martin Luther King.

    So we just wait for the lesbians to have another charity oil wrestling contest and thank them politely for their hard work, while we spend our Saturday nights hidden away numbing the old painful memories. Another cosmo/bump/blowjob please!

    We limit ourselves to being visible one time a year, and then we pour into the streets. But because we've been repressing our identity for the other 364 days, we make complete asses of ourselves on that one day. To straights, we are invisible all year, save for the one day when we become painfully blinding. Why not have a gay pride festival every Sunday? With that frequency of identity release, I guarantee we won't feel the need to shock people anymore. Or maybe every day is gay pride day? Mirror the intimacy straight couples show as though it was commonplace, and then it will be. Too afraid? Get a handgun license and support the 2nd amendment. Or just become a good tackler.

    How many times have you heard that until you respect yourself, no one else will?

    Look. You and your boyfriend are not an absurdity. So stop listening to the other voices that have been looping in your head for all these years (dad, childhood friends, the gym teacher, TV, etc., etc.) and start listening to your own voice. Then get out and fight for the happiness you deserve.

    (If any of you cannot relate to the above, congrats. Now go help someone who still relates. The election is over. Time to show some love.)


    How true. But why not just call it human pride.
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    Nov 06, 2008 9:19 PM GMT
    "Do you think that will further our cause?

    You and I know that will make them fight harder."

    If, at the moment, my cause is deliver shit, then ,yes, my cause is furthered.

    Incidentally, it's just thinking out loud. I'd never waste good dog shit on the catholic church.
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    Nov 06, 2008 10:43 PM GMT
    We need a better, bigger list of companies to boycott.....I have written HRC to come up with one. I read the one posted and I dont really do business with any of what was one there that I am aware of, besides using Priceline.

    If anyone knows of any other companies, please share. I know the Urban Outfitters (CEO donated to yes on icon_cool.gif in Studio City is hurting, I hope they shut down. I will never set foot in one again.
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    Nov 06, 2008 11:02 PM GMT
    msw1 said
    If anyone knows of any other companies, please share. I know the Urban Outfitters (CEO donated to yes on icon_cool.gif in Studio City is hurting, I hope they shut down. I will never set foot in one again.

    Urban Outfitters donated to Yes on 8? That makes me sad. I never really bought much from them, but they're a fun store.
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    Nov 06, 2008 11:07 PM GMT
    Every college kid needs to know that so-called "hip, cool" Urban Outfitters pulled this crap.

    Contact your university's free press and let them know.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Nov 06, 2008 11:11 PM GMT
    "Urban Outfitters" Are they in Ireland icon_question.gif That name rings a bell.
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    Nov 06, 2008 11:16 PM GMT
    I was hoping to boycott something but I own nothing from that list.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 06, 2008 11:18 PM GMT
    Boycotts have to be targeted and well-publicized
    Just by naming 10 companies that The Mormons have a stake in isn't going to cut it
    How much of a stake does the church have in them?
    Who else is going to join this boycott?