AN IMPORTANT THREAD: Stars Are ELECTRIC Not Just Nuclear ! Our Sun Is ELECTRIC and More.

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    Jul 11, 2013 9:27 AM GMT
    Steve:
    The Science Channel says we need Einstein's E=mcsquared to understand stars and fusion. How do you not agree? Steve

    Jason Verbelli:
    Science channel is full of __it and is controlled by mainstream media.
    You should know that by now!
    And so is ___ News, the _________ Channel, the _______ Channel, etc etc etc.
    Stop watching TV.

    Stars are ELECTRIC.
    Not Nuclear.
    There is no fusion in the sun. Only in the solar flares (which are arcs of plasma)

    There is no such thing as black holes, big bangs, dark matter, nuclear fueled stars, etc etc etc.

    Did you know that hundreds of Billions of dollars have been spent at ________ _________ labs to try and duplicate the sun in space?

    They have huuuge facilities, vacuum chambers, and all sorts of lasers converging on 1 point for the sole purpose of trying to make a fireball sit freely in a vacuum like they think the sun sits in space as a ball of fire burning like a lamp.

    And with decades of work and hundreds of billions later.... they have NEVER and will never be able to make their fire ball in a vacuum.

    Why? Because their physics models are inaccurate, and so is their math. They make up equations based on misconceptions and don't substantiate them through experiments. Then they repeat their actions expecting different results over the course of decades while collecting billions to futiley try and make their fireball.

    Yet electrical engineers like Eric Dollard, Thomas Joseph Brown, Dayton Miller, Nikola Tesla, Charles Steinmetz PROVED Einstein wrong with EXPERIMENTS and RESULTS.
    But rather than acknowledging Tesla's results... people trust Einstein's fantasies?

    Are you aware there are major differences in models of electrical engineering verses physics?

    Here is quite a bit for you to study regarding the Electric nature of the Sun.

    Eric Dollard:
    http://www.ericdollard.com

    Eric Dollard - Theory of Anti-Relativity:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIuMICiFqmE

    Eric Dollard - Origin of Energy Synthesis:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnSz_e7jvc

    Electrical Engineer Ruins 96 Years of Relativity:
    http://www.tuks.nl/wiki/index.php/Main/Ruins96YearsEinsteinRelativity

    Stephen Crothers destroys "Black Holes" & Relativity:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jINHHXaPrWA
    Scientific Articles and Links Destroying the Big Bang & Relativity:
    http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/archives/guests08/022108_guest_sjcrothers.htm

    Dayton Miller Destroys Relativity:
    http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm

    "My opinion about Miller's experiments is the following. ... Should the positive result be confirmed, then the special theory of relativity and with it the general theory of relativity, in its current form, would be invalid."
    — Albert Einstein, 1925

    "I believe that I have really found the relationship between gravitation and electricity, assuming that the Miller experiments are based on a fundamental error. Otherwise, the whole relativity theory collapses like a house of cards."
    — Albert Einstein, 1921

    "You imagine that I look back on my life's work with calm satisfaction. But from nearby it looks quite different. There is not a single concept of which I am convinced that it will stand firm, and I feel uncertain whether I am in general on the right track."
    — Albert Einstein, on his 70th birthday, 1949

    GPS disproves Relativity:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGZ1GU_HDwY

    Atomic Suicide - Walter Russell
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/85626193/Atomic-Suicide-Walter-and-Lao-Russell?olddoc=1

    Science Journal detailing history of Mainstream Fallacies:
    http://www.wbabin.net/ntham/amesbury.pdf

    Dewey B Larson (Read "The Case Against the Nuclear Atom")
    http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/dbl

    Expanding Upon DB Larson's Reciprocal Systems:
    http://rs2theory.org

    Trouble with Relativity:
    http://www.gsjournal.net/old/physics/marcus.htm

    Miles Mathis' Disproving Relativity & More:
    http://milesmathis.com

    Physics Myths vs Facts:
    http://www.physicsmyths.org.uk

    Reality of Quasars and Disproving Einstein:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKIUPofq4Ok

    Walter Russell Photo Album:
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150220576998302.310244.683583301&type=3

    Electric Universe:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/thunderboltsproject

    Electric Universe Playlist:
    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB9BD5DB7ACA6E120&feature=plcp

    Vortex Basics
    http://www.feandft.com/vortex_basics.htm
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    Jul 11, 2013 9:36 AM GMT
    I missed grabbing a link:

    http://aetherforce.com/

    So, NOW, all of the references to the aether/ether and the etheric body I've read will have to be upgraded with what this website is explaining.
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    Jul 11, 2013 9:53 AM GMT
    (as for one of my interests, Global Astrology, I used to think of the small effect the other planets have on the Earth. I guess that effect was: if the planets are held by the web of the Sun, all planets in the web can sense it. Now that there is an electrical field and not just a gravitational web, things are a little bit more interesting--also given the electricity in our own nervous system and cells)
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    Jul 11, 2013 8:40 PM GMT
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    interesting read, but I'm not sure what your goal in telling us this is...
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    Jul 11, 2013 8:43 PM GMT
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  • Whipmagic

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    Jul 11, 2013 8:51 PM GMT
    I don't know if I should laugh or cry reading this.
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    Jul 11, 2013 9:26 PM GMT
    Wow... Just... Wow...

    I don't even know where to begin. This is just total BS. Relativity is an extremely well tested theory which has served us extremely well. The accusations against physicists are also quite offensive.

    And here is an issue that immediately comes to mind: How does this electric sun model explain the solar neutrino flux? Perhaps it's in that mountain of information you gave, but I didn't see it.
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    Jul 11, 2013 9:36 PM GMT
    I'm putting grounding cables on all my aluminum foil hats.
  • The_Guruburu

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    Jul 11, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
    LJay saidI'm putting grounding cables on all my aluminum foil hats.

    Where do you get your hats? The aliens seem to circumvent my homemade ones.
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    Jul 11, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    The_Guruburu said
    LJay saidI'm putting grounding cables on all my aluminum foil hats.

    Where do you get your hats? The aliens seem to circumvent my homemade ones.


    You could go with something medieval...

    metal_helmet_study_by_the_muddy-d5xbnxp.
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    Jul 11, 2013 10:37 PM GMT
    Sungod17 said
    The_Guruburu said
    LJay saidI'm putting grounding cables on all my aluminum foil hats.

    Where do you get your hats? The aliens seem to circumvent my homemade ones.


    You could go with something medieval...

    metal_helmet_study_by_the_muddy-d5xbnxp.

    I suspect the full suit would be even more effective.
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    Jul 11, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
    Derp-ity, Derp-ity, Doooooooooooooooo!
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    Jul 12, 2013 12:14 AM GMT
    Yes, I guess RealJock is the place to be debating the predictions of the very successful Relativity model.

    Also, the moon is cheese.
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    Jul 12, 2013 1:32 AM GMT
    I think someone is off his meds...not to mention his rocker...
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    Jul 12, 2013 2:44 AM GMT
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    Jul 12, 2013 2:46 AM GMT
    And if you zoom in on an atom, you'll find a universe EXACTLY like ours in the quarks. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Jul 12, 2013 2:47 AM GMT
    AstroGeek saidWow... Just... Wow...

    I don't even know where to begin. This is just total BS. Relativity is an extremely well tested theory which has served us extremely well. The accusations against physicists are also quite offensive.

    And here is an issue that immediately comes to mind: How does this electric sun model explain the solar neutrino flux? Perhaps it's in that mountain of information you gave, but I didn't see it.


    AstroGeek,

    I noticed that Jason quoted Einstein himself.

    I'll forward your question to Jason. If you're on Facebook, send me a Real Jock message.

    Thanks,
    Steve
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    Jul 13, 2013 3:31 AM GMT
    AstroGeek saidWow... Just... Wow...

    I don't even know where to begin. This is just total BS. Relativity is an extremely well tested theory which has served us extremely well. The accusations against physicists are also quite offensive.

    And here is an issue that immediately comes to mind: How does this electric sun model explain the solar neutrino flux? Perhaps it's in that mountain of information you gave, but I didn't see it.


    AstroGeek,

    Please take a look at this:

    http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jnb/Papers/Popular/Scientificamerican69/scientificamerican69.html

    A giant trap has been set deep underground to catch a few of the neutrinos that theory predicts should be pouring out of the sun. Their capture would prove that the sun runs on thermonuclear power.

    This is from 1969. What is the result of this?

    As for your question which I forwarded to Jason. He says

    I would tell that person to look through the information on the Electric Universe website. And also through the many links I sent you. All those answers are addressed in the volumes of material.

    For some reason, he also attached this url:

    http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/archives/guests08/022108_guest_sjcrothers.htm

    Best regards,
    Steve
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    Jul 13, 2013 4:43 AM GMT
    Sounds like one of those crusades against climate change or pharmaceuticals really. We are all one big conspiracy out to reduce the world population by spreading cancer, under the influence of aliens, of course.

    Meh, Ive been accused so often, by now I just assume the entire human race is delusional.
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    Jul 13, 2013 1:09 PM GMT
    I admit that I read the links about the sun....

    I think it is relevant to we gays... forever we were taught one thing... when really what we were being taught was not true.

    Perhaps nerdy... but it was awesome! Thanks for sharing... :-)
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    Jul 14, 2013 2:54 AM GMT
    StephenOABC said


    The Solar System is not electrically inert.

    The Sun has a magnetic field not just a gravitational field on its planets?

    I didn't know the Sun had an electric field that extends for billions of kilometers. (2 min.s to 2 min.s 20 sec.s into the video)

    I don't understand how bad a proton storm hitting Earth is.

    Some of the Sun's energy is powered externally, not just internally. The Sun must reach equilibrium with the electrical environment of the Galaxy. {"Some of" was added by me. The video did not say "Some of."}

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    Jul 14, 2013 3:23 AM GMT
    For discussion:

    The reason why I personally am intrigued by this is wondering what its effect is on carbon dating in Egyptology and also Earth Sciences and the major events on our timeline that has been "established" by carbon dating.

    Does all of the carbon dating have to be updated given this info?

    Inconstant Radioactive Decay Startles Physicists | Space News

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    Jul 14, 2013 3:55 AM GMT
    StephenOABC saidAstroGeek,

    Please take a look at this:

    http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jnb/Papers/Popular/Scientificamerican69/scientificamerican69.html

    A giant trap has been set deep underground to catch a few of the neutrinos that theory predicts should be pouring out of the sun. Their capture would prove that the sun runs on thermonuclear power.

    This is from 1969. What is the result of this?

    The result is that we found the number of neutrinos predicted by thermonuclear models of the sun. We were thrown off for awhile because at first we thought there were only 1/3 as many neutrinos as there should be but that was because we were only looking at one of the three types of neutrinos and weren't thinking about the fact that neutrinos change type spontaneously (meaning it's an even chance a solar neutrino will be of any type). When we corrected for this we got the neutrino flux we were expecting. None of this is new. I can't remember off hand when we got the initial value of neutrino flux (the one that was too small) but there was an experiment set up in the 90s to look at all of the types of neutrinos and it had given its results by the early 2000s. This was the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory, basically a bigger, better version of the experiment in that sns.ias.edu link.

    Despite what is claimed on the website you direct me towards, we have very good reason to think that neutrinos oscillate between different types. We have measured this in neutrinos produced in nuclear reactors, particle accelerators, and the interactions of cosmic rays with the Earth's atmosphere. It is also quite sensible from a theoretical perspective, if neutrinos have mass (we initially assumed that they didn't, which is why we hadn't predicted neutrino oscillation). Additionally, I did not find the explanation provided to be at all convincing as to how this electrical model would produce neutrinos. It is claimed that "The . . . complex nucleosynthesis in the photospheric granules can . . . be expected to produce a mix of different neutrino types." I am quite certain this is not the case--in normal nuclear reactions you only get electron neutrinos. And nor do I find descriptions of nucleosynthesis in the sun's outer layers to be plausible--they are too cold to do it by fusion, and we've never measured a substantial neutron flux, which could nucleosynthesis.