Another union decries Obamacare’s impact on members’ healthcare coverage

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    Jul 11, 2013 10:07 PM GMT
    You know you have problems when your biggest supporters come out against you...

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/11/another-union-decries-obamacares-impact-on-members-healthcare-coverage/
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    Jul 11, 2013 10:36 PM GMT
    Sharpton saidWhen was Obamacare passed?


    'You have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it'
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    Jul 11, 2013 10:57 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    Sharpton saidWhen was Obamacare passed?


    'You have to pass Obamacare to find out what's in it'


    So what's in it?


    "“The ACA threatens the viability of multi-employer health plans in four ways: 1) the high employee threshold of the employer mandate 2) the re-insurance fee, 3) the definition of qualified health plans, and 4) the lack of multi-employer specific administrative guidance. We believe it may be impossible to reverse the damage done to these plans if these issues are not resolved. The IBEW cannot afford to sit on the sidelines at the ACA threatens to harm our members by dismantling multi-employer plans,” the IBEW explains in a statement released Thursday."
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    Jul 12, 2013 2:04 AM GMT
    Unintended saidhttp://politicalomnivore.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-do-i-get-paid-to-be-on-line-troll.html


    Since apparently I am a troll, you have no issues explaining why in fact, this union is wrong in now opposing the implementation of Obamacare?
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    Jul 12, 2013 6:23 AM GMT
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    Unintended saidhttp://politicalomnivore.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-do-i-get-paid-to-be-on-line-troll.html


    Since apparently I am a troll, you have no issues explaining why in fact, this union is wrong in now opposing the implementation of Obamacare?


    since ive been a member of a union before, here is what I think

    since the beginning of the bargaining unit(s) way back when, the unions, as part of contract negotiations with employers, have negotiated health benefit plans, pay and rules, once agreement of a contract is reached by both parties, the health benefit(s) become part of that contract, usually 3 or 4 years, after that expires, a new contract is negotiated and so on.

    over the years, the unions were responsible, through tough negotiations, on getting some really good health plans for union members AND salary people

    the only reason why unions are now protesting the Obama care is because it diminishes their negotiating power with employers, unions have only been concerned with 3 things for its members, Wages, Benefits, Seniority/Retirement. Employers have been dumping any pension retirement plans in favor of 401k's, now they can dump negotiated health benefit plans so that employees can get their own. The only thing left for unions to negotiate are Wages

    and what fun is that, just means unions will die off faster and employers will win in the cheap labor game
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    Jul 12, 2013 11:15 AM GMT
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    Unintended saidhttp://politicalomnivore.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-do-i-get-paid-to-be-on-line-troll.html


    Since apparently I am a troll, you have no issues explaining why in fact, this union is wrong in now opposing the implementation of Obamacare?


    since ive been a member of a union before, here is what I think

    since the beginning of the bargaining unit(s) way back when, the unions, as part of contract negotiations with employers, have negotiated health benefit plans, pay and rules, once agreement of a contract is reached by both parties, the health benefit(s) become part of that contract, usually 3 or 4 years, after that expires, a new contract is negotiated and so on.

    over the years, the unions were responsible, through tough negotiations, on getting some really good health plans for union members AND salary people

    the only reason why unions are now protesting the Obama care is because it diminishes their negotiating power with employers, unions have only been concerned with 3 things for its members, Wages, Benefits, Seniority/Retirement. Employers have been dumping any pension retirement plans in favor of 401k's, now they can dump negotiated health benefit plans so that employees can get their own. The only thing left for unions to negotiate are Wages

    and what fun is that, just means unions will die off faster and employers will win in the cheap labor game


    How does this mean employers will win at the cheap labor game? Unions are now an anachronism which is why they've been dying off. They've become parasites killing off their hosts with their excessive demands. In fact, the nature of work has changed. Instead of being rote and repetitious, it's become more individual and creative.

    Just look at how public unions have reacted to even the idea of individual merit pay. That's why unions are dying and that's why public unions shouldn't even exist. Incomes will continue to rise particularly in emerging industries while in industries unions have been dominant, they'll continue to be outsourced or replaced with capital/machinery.
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    Jul 12, 2013 6:29 PM GMT
    And btw - it would seem that their primary objection is not so much that they have lost a bargaining chip but that they are not allowed to keep their plans as they and all Americans were promised:

    “[Our] members and allied employers have worked hard for the healthcare they have, and President Obama must move now to guarantee that his signature law will not cost them their coverage,” Hill said in a statement.

    IBEW is the latest union to voice concern about the coming impact of Obamacare implementation on their membership.

    In recent months unions like the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union, The International Brotherhood of Teamsters and UNITE HERE have all been looking for alterations to the law.