Racial slurs, threats reported at Anti-Prop 8 Rallies

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    Nov 07, 2008 10:01 PM GMT
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    N-Word Hurled at Blacks During Westwood Prop 8 Protest


    Not that this wasn't expected. The recent passage of California's Proposition 8 has exposed some of the latent racism of many within the LGBT community—instigated in part by many in the e-telligentsia such as proto-racist Andrew Sullivan and columnist Dan Savage. Unfortunately the "blame the blacks" meme is being commonly accepted by some so-called "progressive" gay activists. A number of Rod 2.0 and Jasmyne Cannick readers report being subjected to taunts, threats and racist abuse at last night's marriage equality rally in Los Angeles.

    Geoffrey, a student at UCLA and regular Rod 2.0 reader, joined the massive protest outside the Temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Westwood. Geoffrey was called the n-word at least twice.

    "It was like being at a klan rally except the klansmen were wearing Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks. YOU NIGGER, one man shouted at men. If your people want to call me a FAGGOT, I will call you a nigger. Someone else said same thing to me on the next block near the temple...me and my friend were walking, he is also gay but Korean, and a young WeHo clone said after last night the niggers better not come to West Hollywood if they knew what was BEST for them."

    Los Angeles resident and Rod 2.0 reader A. Ronald says he and his boyfriend, who are both black, were carrying NO ON PROP 8 signs and still subjected to racial abuse.

    "Three older men accosted my friend and shouted, "Black people did this, I hope you people are happy!" A young lesbian couple with mohawks and Obama buttons joined the shouting and said there were "very disappointed with black people" and "how could we" after the Obama victory. This was stupid for them to single us out because we were carrying those blue NO ON PROP 8 signs! I pointed that out and the one of the older men said it didn't matter because "most black people hated gays" and he was "wrong" to think we had compassion. That was the most insulting thing I had ever heard. I guess he never thought we were gay."

    Jasmyne Cannick has a similar and unfortunate report. "I have received several phone calls from Blacks, both gay and straight, who were caught up in Westwood around the time of that march. From being called 'niggers' to being accosted in their cars and told that it was because of 'you people gays don’t have equal rights and you better watch your back,' these gays have lost their damn minds."

    No such reports from Wednesday's peaceful march in West Hollywood.

    The verbal harassment follows a steady stream of racist comments left on this blog and many others across the gay virtual community. At least a dozen racist comments have been removed from this blog since Tuesday, such as, "Thank you Black people for denying gay people the same rights that you deserve and have", "Black people make me feel like a piece of shyt when it should have been a night of celebration for all," and the succinct, "F--K you niggers."

    There is more than enough blame to go around—the homophobia of the black church, lack of outreach by mainstream LGBT organizations, reluctance by the Obama campaign, many blacks gays and lesbians in the closet, deep pockets of the social conservatives, take your pick—but it is a statistical fact that millions more whites voted for this initiative than blacks. You want to blame somebody, go to overwhelming white Orange County, Bakersfield or San Fernando Valley and blame them. Or better yet, head up to San Francisco and blame the 50 percent of voters who didn't even bother to vote. Look, whenever the rights of a minority are put to popular vote, they almost always lose. But very telling indeed many white gays instantly revert to racism to explain Prop 8's passage. It's going to be difficult for gay groups to reach out to blacks with this mentality


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    Nov 07, 2008 10:45 PM GMT
    A comment from a member named Chaz from Rod 2.0:

    Chaz really thought the white and Black gays could work together, but after reading this, I am not so sure. Black gays are in this alone, this struggle, it is ours alone. This should open up the eyes of Black gays who are so catty toward one another, we REALLY need to stick together. Our mothers and fathers are against us (the majority,) our communities, and now our gay sisters and brothers.


    I agree whole heartedly. I'm calling on all black gays to drop any and all animosity we have against each other and come together.

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    Nov 07, 2008 11:31 PM GMT
    Widely read black lesbian blogger Jaysmyne Cannick says in one of her recent postings

    Jaysmyne CannickLike when Hillary lost the nomination and Black America got a taste of how their party mates really felt about them (thank you Harriet Christian and P.U.M.A.), the white gays are following suit after not being able to defeat Proposition 8.

    To date, I have received several phone calls from Blacks, both gay and straight, who were caught up in Westwood around the time of that march. From being called “niggers” to being accosted in their cars and told that it was because of “you people gays don’t have equal rights and you better watch your back,” these gays have lost their damn minds.

    But I know one thing, they won’t bring that shit south of the 10 freeway.

    All I can say is that I wish that had been me in Westwood some gay called a “nigger.” I keep bail money and a lawyer on retainer for exactly these types of occasions.

    If gays want to blame someone for Proposition 8, they can start with their leaders—also known as the gay mafia, whose egos, white superiority complex, and misunderstanding of Black people’s priorities for this election season guaranteed certain outcomes.

    Keep it up and maybe the Black people will come to West Hollywood and hold a protest of their own—I’d be happy to lead it.




    My question to black homosexuals is should ethnic gay minorities organize a major march in ever gay enclave in America to protest against gay racism?

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    Nov 09, 2008 1:41 PM GMT
    I don't have a problem with my fellow black gay men. It kills me to see them try to hide or resent their "blackness" and become what society wants in order to be accepted. I love my men of color and to be quite honest, I'm tired of all this gay racism. Even on this site...
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    Nov 09, 2008 1:53 PM GMT
    It is pretty sad when gays react this way to what is hopefully a temporary setback. But then again racism, discrimination and tribalism are unattractive human qualities not the exclusive property of straights or gays, whites or blacks, catholics or moslems. My greatest challenge as a manager has been the conflict between a moslem man and a hindu woman. It was not on race or sexual orientation, but religion.
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    Nov 10, 2008 4:05 AM GMT
    Ok when the N word starts getting used. It's BAD. It's VERY BAD.

    It's one thing to call the bullshit on religion, and another when you go right ahead and reintroduce racism just because you felt you were oppressed.

    As I said before, the heterosexual black population just needs to be reminded of Bayard Rustin's legacy. Name-calling will not help.
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    Nov 10, 2008 4:15 AM GMT
    Can we really say that we (pro-gay marriage folks) have honestly tried to educate special groups (blacks, hispanics, mormons) about gays?

    I see a lot of people pissed off that those who have had a negative view of homosexuality for decades don't just suddenly decide to drop their convictions and vote in our favor.

    It's not that surprising that these groups are voting conservative on the issue of gay marriage, so why are some of us going psycho over it?