The Tao of Steve: To all the gay average joes :) .....

  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 17, 2013 8:14 PM GMT
    Has anyone seen the 2000 romantic comedy modern-day Don Juan/ Cyrano De Bergerac film The Tao of Steve?! It's about an average chubby joe who gets all the hottest chicks by seemingly being aloof & disinterested. He points out iconic guys like the supreme Steve McQueen & Steve Austin from 6 Million Dollar Man & Steve Garret from Hawaii Five-O as the perfect heroes to emulate (hence The Tao of Steve) and he ends up advising his newbie guy friend who strikes out even though he's better looking & in better shape than him on how to have "game" & land the beautiful girl (employing the teachings I Ching & Heidegger).

    There are 3 rules to The Tao of Steve:

    1. Be cool, aloof & disinterested. Girls know all guys have a hidden agenda & are always in pursuit of getting sex. Calm ur hormones down, don't be all gung ho at the get go.

    2. Show some heroic trait that shows ur chivalrous empathetic side like helping an old lady walk across a street. Or show some manly feat that shows ur manly excellence like playing a sport well. It always impresses a girl & catches their interest.

    3. Then disengaged or retreat. Girls always like to be pursued & they'll wonder why u stop calling. In short, ur turning the tables around. So basically u have them pursue u....

    I know it's just a movie, but if ur a gay average joe, would u or have u applied the Tao of Steve to try to land the hot gay guy?! And if u have, what were the results?! icon_smile.gif .....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 2:42 AM GMT
    I guess nobody wants to admit that they are average-looking?! Has anyone accepted themselves as average & are fine with it & realistic about it?!.....
  • TheBizMan

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    Jul 18, 2013 2:45 AM GMT
    You make these threads and never answer them yourself.

    My answer is no. I do not think I am "average" looking by my standards. But then these things are subjective.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 5:51 AM GMT
    TheBizMan saidYou make these threads and never answer them yourself.

    My answer is no. I do not think I am "average" looking by my standards. But then these things are subjective.


    Usually I always answer further down along. I always let u guys answer first icon_smile.gif .....

    Everyone should go see the movie if u haven't yet. It won honorable mention for Best Film & won for Best Actor at Sundance in 2000. icon_smile.gif
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 6:26 AM GMT
    After u've seen it then u can go back to this thread & give ur 2 bits icon_smile.gif .....
    See if u can apply it to urself icon_smile.gif .....
    The dialogue in it is really witty & well written too icon_smile.gif .....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 7:04 AM GMT
    If u know ur just an average joe, would u ever settle for Mr. Mediocre?!.....

    But then again, if he's a match for u, then it's perfect & Mr. Mediocre ends up being Mr. Right icon_smile.gif .....
  • secondstartot...

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    Jul 18, 2013 7:35 AM GMT
    I came to terms with being average looking years ago !! Fortunately i have an amazing personality ... And Oscar Wilde once said " if you cant be a work of art, then wear a work of art " it works, well it does for me anyway
  • secondstartot...

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    Jul 18, 2013 7:38 AM GMT
    And no in answer to your other question - i would rather be single than settle ..... If I had never in my life even hooked up with these so called tens and elevens perhaps I would have given up.... But it has happened .. So i wait
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 8:05 AM GMT
    secondstartotheright saidI came to terms with being average looking years ago !! Fortunately i have an amazing personality ... And Oscar Wilde once said " if you cant be a work of art, then wear a work of art " it works, well it does for me anyway


    Right out of Diana Vreeland's mouth icon_smile.gif
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 8:54 AM GMT
    secondstartotheright saidAnd no in answer to your other question - i would rather be single than settle ..... If I had never in my life even hooked up with these so called tens and elevens perhaps I would have given up.... But it has happened .. So i wait


    Complacency is a death knell.....
  • outbackdude

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    Jul 18, 2013 9:03 AM GMT
    I don't think being an average looking guy is anything bad. I have seen the extra ordinaries of the average bloke and then the super douche among the hotties. Personality plays a big role in you becoming sexy.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 9:07 AM GMT
    whitedarwin saidI don't think being an average looking guy is anything bad. I have seen the extra ordinaries of the average bloke and then the super douche among the hotties. Personality plays a big role in you becoming sexy.


    Agreed, that's what the movie is about. A lot of witty lines, point-counterpoint icon_smile.gif

    Yes, douches abound in all types & so do gems icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 18, 2013 9:23 AM GMT
    People who are told all through their life that they are beautiful can often become focused too heavily on their looks rather than developing their character or intellect, often suffering as a result.

    I've never been a looker, and came to terms with that quite young. I put my energy into developing skills as a musician. As a result I'm quite confident; I don't mind being a bit of an exhibitionist - I'm not particularly shy. Plus, people are attracted to performing musicians. I like to think that character makes me more attractive to suitors than my looks alone would suggest.
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    Jul 18, 2013 9:27 AM GMT
    gayinterest saidPeople who are told all through their life that they are beautiful can often become focused too heavily on their looks rather than developing their character or intellect, often suffering as a result.

    I've never been a looker, and came to terms with that quite young. As a result I'm quite confident; I don't mind being a bit of an exhibitionist - I'm not particularly shy. I like to think that character makes me more attractive to suitors than my looks alone would suggest.



    I don't think it is right to say that people who are praised for their look becomes focused on it. That theory doesn't fit well. Are you saying that people who are often praised for being smart do not develop their character either because they are too fixated on how smarter they are than the rest of the world.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 9:34 AM GMT
    whitedarwin said
    gayinterest saidPeople who are told all through their life that they are beautiful can often become focused too heavily on their looks rather than developing their character or intellect, often suffering as a result.

    I've never been a looker, and came to terms with that quite young. As a result I'm quite confident; I don't mind being a bit of an exhibitionist - I'm not particularly shy. I like to think that character makes me more attractive to suitors than my looks alone would suggest.



    I don't think it is right to say that people who are praised for their look becomes focused on it. That theory doesn't fit well. Are you saying that people who are often praised for being smart do not develop their character either because they are too fixated on how smarter they are than the rest of the world.


    It's all about balance & knowing how to be humble & treating everyone nice & fair. Now if u have the best of both worlds & u were blessed with beauty & brains, then more power to u, long's u still treat everyone nice icon_smile.gif .....
  • outbackdude

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    Jul 18, 2013 9:37 AM GMT
    spgem said
    whitedarwin said
    gayinterest saidPeople who are told all through their life that they are beautiful can often become focused too heavily on their looks rather than developing their character or intellect, often suffering as a result.

    I've never been a looker, and came to terms with that quite young. As a result I'm quite confident; I don't mind being a bit of an exhibitionist - I'm not particularly shy. I like to think that character makes me more attractive to suitors than my looks alone would suggest.



    I don't think it is right to say that people who are praised for their look becomes focused on it. That theory doesn't fit well. Are you saying that people who are often praised for being smart do not develop their character either because they are too fixated on how smarter they are than the rest of the world.


    It's all about balance & knowing how to be humble & treating everyone nice & fair. Now if u have the best of both worlds & u were blessed with beauty & brains, then more power to u, long's u still treat everyone nice icon_smile.gif .....


    People want everything but we all have our flaws. The right balance never look right and is never complete because we live in the world of relativity. I also think in most cultures we are expected to apologetic about our powers especially beauty.
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    Jul 18, 2013 9:43 AM GMT
    whitedarwin said
    gayinterest saidPeople who are told all through their life that they are beautiful can often become focused too heavily on their looks rather than developing their character or intellect, often suffering as a result.

    I've never been a looker, and came to terms with that quite young. As a result I'm quite confident; I don't mind being a bit of an exhibitionist - I'm not particularly shy. I like to think that character makes me more attractive to suitors than my looks alone would suggest.



    I don't think it is right to say that people who are praised for their look becomes focused on it. That theory doesn't fit well. Are you saying that people who are often praised for being smart do not develop their character either because they are too fixated on how smarter they are than the rest of the world.


    I say "can" to indicate a possibility - not a rule.

    I certainly know very intellectual people who just lack some common manners and emotional intelligence, probably because they've always put academia as their focus. I can give examples, if necessary.

    I've met very beautiful people who are just incredibly vacuous and lacking in personality, probably because they've always put grooming as their focus.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 9:44 AM GMT
    whitedarwin said
    spgem said
    whitedarwin said
    gayinterest saidPeople who are told all through their life that they are beautiful can often become focused too heavily on their looks rather than developing their character or intellect, often suffering as a result.

    I've never been a looker, and came to terms with that quite young. As a result I'm quite confident; I don't mind being a bit of an exhibitionist - I'm not particularly shy. I like to think that character makes me more attractive to suitors than my looks alone would suggest.



    I don't think it is right to say that people who are praised for their look becomes focused on it. That theory doesn't fit well. Are you saying that people who are often praised for being smart do not develop their character either because they are too fixated on how smarter they are than the rest of the world.


    It's all about balance & knowing how to be humble & treating everyone nice & fair. Now if u have the best of both worlds & u were blessed with beauty & brains, then more power to u, long's u still treat everyone nice icon_smile.gif
    .....


    People want everything but we all have our flaws. The right balance never look right and is never complete because we live in the world of relativity. I also think in most cultures we are expected to apologetic about our powers especially beauty.


    Yes, it's all relative icon_smile.gif And everyone's perspective is all relative too because it's subjective.....
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    Jul 18, 2013 10:17 AM GMT
    I think being funny and charming works better than just about anything as far as getting dates.
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    Jul 18, 2013 10:26 AM GMT
    Sashaman saidI think being funny and charming works better than just about anything as far as getting dates.


    Yeah, but looks still count.....
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    Jul 18, 2013 10:31 AM GMT
    spgem said
    Sashaman saidI think being funny and charming works better than just about anything as far as getting dates.


    Yeah, but looks still count.....


    I agree. But I can think of plenty of instances where an average looking guy who is funny as hell was the center of attention at a party or bar while guys that were better looking were off on the sidelines.
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    Jul 18, 2013 10:38 AM GMT
    Sashaman said
    spgem said
    Sashaman saidI think being funny and charming works better than just about anything as far as getting dates.


    Yeah, but looks still count.....


    I agree. But I can think of plenty of instances where an average looking guy who is funny as hell was the center of attention at a party or bar while guys that were better looking were off on the sidelines.


    Do you have hang ups dating a masc. guy or a fem guy? Does that factor into your potential dates? What if you potential dates turn out to be totally different from what you are attracted to and is funny and charming?
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    Jul 18, 2013 10:44 AM GMT
    Sashaman said
    spgem said
    Sashaman saidI think being funny and charming works better than just about anything as far as getting dates.


    Yeah, but looks still count.....


    I agree. But I can think of plenty of instances where an average looking guy who is funny as hell was the center of attention at a party or bar while guys that were better looking were off on the sidelines.


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    Jul 18, 2013 10:55 AM GMT
    spgem said
    1. Be cool, aloof & disinterested. Girls know all guys have a hidden agenda & are always in pursuit of getting sex. Calm ur hormones down, don't be all gung ho at the get go.


    Boom, there it is; eight years ago when I met my now-partner, not only could I not stand him, I also wasnt the least bit attracted to him. Being the gorgeous, built little narcissist that he is, he was used to guys, and girls, falling at his feet and not having to put the slightest effort into getting a number or some ass. Then I come along and show zero interest, which pretty much fucked with his head, but caught his interest.

    Eventually he wore me down, and I really and truly did fall for him and it had zero to do with his body or looks. After months and months and months of just dating, no sex, and showing me the real him, I was hooked and he was mine. And when we finally banged, we knew it was well worth the wait....
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    Jul 18, 2013 10:56 AM GMT
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    spgem said
    1. Be cool, aloof & disinterested. Girls know all guys have a hidden agenda & are always in pursuit of getting sex. Calm ur hormones down, don't be all gung ho at the get go.


    Boom, there it is; eight years ago when I met my now-partner, not only could I not stand him, I also wasnt the least bit attracted to him. Being the gorgeous, built little narcissist that he is, he was used to guys, and girls, falling at his feet and not having to put the slightest effort into getting a number or some ass. Then I come along and show zero interest, which pretty much fucked with his head, but caught his interest.

    Eventually he wore me down, and I really and truly did fall for him and it had zero to do with his body or looks. After months and months and months of just dating, no sex, and showing me the real him, I was hooked and he was mine. And when we finally banged, we knew it was well worth the wait....


    Yeah, and then you woke up.