Clone Culture among Gay Men

  • Eli_jah

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    Jul 18, 2013 12:50 AM GMT
    I'll never understand it

    http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/evg/3941963794.html

    "PIC IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR."
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    Jul 18, 2013 12:56 AM GMT
    What's wrong with having good taste?
  • Eli_jah

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    Jul 18, 2013 1:03 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidWhat's wrong with having good taste?


    Too much of a good thing?

    Hmm.

    All of those boys look alike. It's just creepy.
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    Jul 18, 2013 1:10 AM GMT
    If that were a post for a straight frat party you'd see a picture of 7 identical big jugged blonde girls.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 18, 2013 1:12 AM GMT
    NeutralObserver saidI'll never understand it


    Vain dudes are in love with themselves: of course they want to date/hang out with their twins, it's pretty easy to understand.

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  • Eli_jah

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    Jul 18, 2013 1:20 AM GMT
    Matiz saidIf that were a post for a straight frat party you'd see a picture of 7 identical big jugged blonde girls.


    The difference being that the blonde bimbo look is imposed on women, whereas all of us in this community want to look the same and be with men who look just like us. Odd.
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    Jul 18, 2013 1:24 AM GMT
    i dont want a man who looks just like me
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    Jul 18, 2013 1:26 AM GMT
    NeutralObserver said
    Matiz saidIf that were a post for a straight frat party you'd see a picture of 7 identical big jugged blonde girls.


    The difference being that the blonde bimbo look is imposed on women, whereas all of us in this community want to look the same and be with men who look just like us. Odd.


    It's just as imposed on gay men. It's not an innate, organic desire. If you raise a gay man in an isolated lab he won't spontaneously develop a desire to get frosted tips, shave his body and starve himself lean.
  • killercliche

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    Jul 18, 2013 2:10 AM GMT
    NeutralObserver saidI'll never understand it

    http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/evg/3941963794.html

    "PIC IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR."



    In Summary:
    "All you white people look the same."


    ...those guys do not look like clones. Sorry.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 18, 2013 3:34 AM GMT
    People with money ... the bar tender might meet a rich daddy ... obviously the bartender will need to be semi nude ... I say pay would start around $50 to $100 an hour ... depending on skills and experience
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    Jul 18, 2013 3:55 AM GMT
    NeutralObserver said
    paulflexes saidWhat's wrong with having good taste?


    Too much of a good thing?

    Hmm.

    All of those boys look alike. It's just creepy.



    I agree, but they look more tacky and tasteless
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    Jul 18, 2013 4:00 AM GMT
    Honey give me the bartenders in the Eagle NYC anyway.icon_smile.gifRy
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 18, 2013 4:01 AM GMT
    It's BEEN a clone culture.....

    Cloning?! We've been cloning for years! icon_smile.gif .....
  • MikeW

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    Jul 18, 2013 4:05 AM GMT
    Certainly not anything new. Most people say we are a materialistic culture. I disagree. We are a "image based" culture -- and that is true across the board (gay, straight, what ever).

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    I also think this "male physique" obsession has its origins in ancient and classical representations of the "ideal" male figures. See for example:

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  • MikeW

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    Jul 18, 2013 4:11 AM GMT
    I also want to say there are A LOT more "physique" oriented men, gay and straight NOW than EVER before. I've lived through 60 decades now so I have a perspective. I've never seen so many hunky, 'swole' and cut bodies as I do now. I live in a college town and have been surrounded by college age guys since the 1970s. NEVER have there been so many that look like the guys in the pic in your OP. And again, this is across the board, gay, straight what ever. Men have become MUCH more 'obsessed' (might not be the right word) with trying to manifest their full genetic potential and then some.
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    Jul 18, 2013 4:14 AM GMT
    killercliche said
    NeutralObserver saidI'll never understand it

    http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/evg/3941963794.html

    "PIC IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR."



    In Summary:
    "All you white people look the same."


    ...those guys do not look like clones. Sorry.



    I thought something was really wrong with my vision .. Thanx man..
  • mitshoo

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    Jul 18, 2013 4:28 AM GMT
    Matiz said
    NeutralObserver said
    Matiz saidIf that were a post for a straight frat party you'd see a picture of 7 identical big jugged blonde girls.


    The difference being that the blonde bimbo look is imposed on women, whereas all of us in this community want to look the same and be with men who look just like us. Odd.


    It's just as imposed on gay men. It's not an innate, organic desire. If you raise a gay man in an isolated lab he won't spontaneously develop a desire to get frosted tips, shave his body and starve himself lean.


    I'm going to agree with Matiz that style is imposed equally on gay men as it is on women. However, I think we're all forgetting here that we do, to an extent, voluntarily choose it. There is both pressure from the outside that provides us a ready-made personality to enact, but inside we also have a desire to conform (in order to belong), at least to some degree. It's different amounts in different people (apparently the desire for conformity is high for the guys in the craigslist photo) but it is there in everyone.

    I'd also like to comment that for me it's weird to look at high school yearbooks from like the 70's or something. EVERYONE LOOKS THE SAME TO ME. I look at my yearbook, and think, they look different to me now, but will they blend together for me after some time? Every decade has its style, and only part of that style is conscious. People notice the things they differ in much more easily than they notice all the things they share in common. We don't usually realize, except for perceptive people like NeutralObserver, how much we automatically imitate those around us.
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    Jul 18, 2013 4:31 AM GMT
    I would fuck them all. EACH.AND.EVERY.ONE.
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    Jul 18, 2013 4:33 AM GMT
    This is why it's always good to keep in mind that "You are unique!..."
























    "...Just like everybody else."
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 18, 2013 4:45 AM GMT
    mitshoo said
    Matiz said
    NeutralObserver said
    Matiz saidIf that were a post for a straight frat party you'd see a picture of 7 identical big jugged blonde girls.


    The difference being that the blonde bimbo look is imposed on women, whereas all of us in this community want to look the same and be with men who look just like us. Odd.


    It's just as imposed on gay men. It's not an innate, organic desire. If you raise a gay man in an isolated lab he won't spontaneously develop a desire to get frosted tips, shave his body and starve himself lean.


    I'm going to agree with Matiz that style is imposed equally on gay men as it is on women. However, I think we're all forgetting here that we do, to an extent, voluntarily choose it. There is both pressure from the outside that provides us a ready-made personality to enact, but inside we also have a desire to conform (in order to belong), at least to some degree. It's different amounts in different people (apparently the desire for conformity is high for the guys in the craigslist photo) but it is there in everyone.

    I'd also like to comment that for me it's weird to look at high school yearbooks from like the 70's or something. EVERYONE LOOKS THE SAME TO ME. I look at my yearbook, and think, they look different to me now, but will they blend together for me after some time? Every decade has its style, and only part of that style is conscious. People notice the things they differ in much more easily than they notice all the things they share in common. We don't usually realize, except for perceptive people like NeutralObserver, how much we automatically imitate those around us.

    Hopefully, the tanning fad will get buried with the polyester bellbottoms.
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    Jul 18, 2013 5:17 AM GMT
    HottJoe said

    Hopefully, the tanning fad will get buried with the polyester bellbottoms.

    What's the tanning fad you mention? I don't go out anymore so the hot young guys I'm able to observe are the str8 dudes at my neighborhood gym. It seems like more guys into fitness & health take better care of their skin and seem less tan overall.

    I'm still hoping the complete whacking off of the bush with a razor is a fad that will die sooner than later. Shaved balls are okay - that's more of a courtesy anyway - but when I see a grown man with no bush, it looks like he's preparing for transition surgery. I like a nice manly bush on a guy.
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    Jul 18, 2013 5:18 AM GMT
    I understand it. I don't always like it, but I understand it.
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    Jul 18, 2013 5:19 AM GMT
    Oh? You mean there's not a "perfect body and face" build for most people?
    My mistake.
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    Jul 18, 2013 5:22 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidI would fuck them all. EACH.AND.EVERY.ONE.


    Yeah why not?
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    Jul 18, 2013 5:26 AM GMT
    To the OP: This is not a new thing. People like looking at pretty things. Gay and straight.


    I would much rather be served by hot looking guys than out of shape ones. So sue me.icon_neutral.gif