Is it me, or are gay bars closing at a high rate?

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    Nov 08, 2008 8:31 PM GMT
    Perhaps it's a medium-city thing (Indianapolis, Cincinnati, etc.) but I've been hearing/reading about more gay clubs closing and I'm a bit puzzled: Yes, I get the idea that more clubs are "gay friendly", but with more guys coming out earlier or being comfortable at a gay club, wouldn't this be increased interest? I would almost think more clubs would opening.

    Help me out here. Am I wrong? If its right, is Manhunt, gay.com, a4a, or even real jock to blame?

    -Sean
  • GQjock

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    Nov 08, 2008 9:17 PM GMT
    You got that right...
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    Nov 08, 2008 9:24 PM GMT
    Such a shame ...
  • DCEric

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    Nov 08, 2008 10:28 PM GMT
    Could it be (and I am purely pondering here) that greater acceptance has made it less and less needed to have segregated bars/clubs?
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    Nov 08, 2008 10:39 PM GMT
    Seems part of the deal, yeah. I don't know if its a combo of that and the interwebs, but it would seem likely. Still, its always nice to have a place to go where you know, 100% for sure, that everyone will be accepting.
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    Nov 08, 2008 10:41 PM GMT
    No it is not your imagination. Certainly it is true in Toronto. The internet is partially to blame. Instead of going to gay bars to hook-up, guys are going to Manhunt, Outpersonals, and yes even RJ.

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    Nov 08, 2008 10:50 PM GMT
    Dont think thats the case in SF, maybe because we have a steady flow of gay tourists.
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    Nov 08, 2008 10:58 PM GMT
    I dunno... I think bars in general have a relatively short life-span. Almost none of the (ordinary) bars that I went to in my bar-going days still exist.
  • westdave

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    Nov 08, 2008 11:25 PM GMT
    From a surbanites standpoint gay bars are on the wane. I believe the internet, and the need for guys no longer to go to a "gay bar" to socialize are the cause of its demise.
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 08, 2008 11:47 PM GMT
    since the economy is in the tank, EVERYTHING is going to be closing at a faster rate
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    Nov 08, 2008 11:55 PM GMT
    Agreed, but this isn't a trend of the last 18 months.
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    Nov 09, 2008 12:02 AM GMT
    It's the economy.
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    Nov 09, 2008 12:02 AM GMT
    things_n_stuff_n_cents saidAgreed, but this isn't a trend of the last 18 months.


    When I arrived in Toronto in 1986 there were at least 5 popular gay dance bars. Now I can think of maybe 2? There are more straight bars that have gay nights, and there are more places for lesbians. Even the non-dance bars are fewer in number now. In Toronto it is not the economy. The popularity of the internet, the banning of smoking, the greater acceptance of gays in straight society, all could be contributing.
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    Nov 09, 2008 12:06 AM GMT
    Seattle has lost a few because property values went up so much that the owners could make a lot more money selling their places and letting them put condos up instead.
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    Nov 09, 2008 12:09 AM GMT
    Most straight clubs here are more fun.

    Of the two gay bars in Lincoln one is akin to your corner pub, and isn't too bad to start the night with, but the other is full of clicky wannabe-fashionistas whos voices can shatter glass (and who wern't that way until *after* coming out and into the 'scene').

    The music choices in the straight bars also tend to be better. Our gay dance club here replays the top 40 hit list with a layer of bad house techno on top.

    Then again our straight bars here are infested with UNL students during the school year.
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    Nov 09, 2008 12:20 AM GMT
    I wouldn't blame websites. I don't use them to hook up.

    And I rarely go to gay bars, but because I rather go with my straight friends to a regular bar. And If I tell them I want to go, they go with me.

    I think they might be closing for the same reason someone posted. There's greater acceptance in straight bars and people in general. So I don't feel I have to hide in a gay bar.

    dunno. Maybe it's just meicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 09, 2008 12:23 AM GMT
    metropolitan saidI wouldn't blame websites. I don't use them to hook up.

    And I rarely go to gay bars, but because I rather go with my straight friends to a regular bar. And If I tell them I want to go, they go with me.

    I think they might be closing for the same reason someone posted. There's greater acceptance in straight bars and people in general. So I don't feel I have to hide in a gay bar.

    dunno. Maybe it's just meicon_rolleyes.gif


    I guess you don't go to gay bars to meet other gays? I don't know if I would feel comfortable in a straight club. I mean could I "bump 'n grind" with my partner in a straight club?
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    Nov 09, 2008 4:12 AM GMT
    I haven't gone to my nearby gay bars often enough to detect a decline in numbers... but I certainly hope they never close. Straight clubs just... aren't the same.

    If they did close, yeah, I'd probably blame the economy. People are holding on to more of their money, and cover charges and multiple drinks and tips can get pricey.
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    Nov 09, 2008 6:15 AM GMT
    As hard as I try, I just can't extend my musical tastes past the eighties. Britney Spears and the like is the reason why I stopped going out.

    Yes, let your fingers do the walking instead and then see if it's worth your while to get dressed up.
  • beaujangle

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    Nov 09, 2008 10:40 AM GMT
    Atlazeia saidI haven't gone to my nearby gay bars often enough to detect a decline in numbers... but I certainly hope they never close. Straight clubs just... aren't the same.

    If they did close, yeah, I'd probably blame the economy. People are holding on to more of their money, and cover charges and multiple drinks and tips can get pricey.



    I agree that straight clubs aren't the same. Can you imagine french kissing with another guy in front of straight ppl?
  • OptimusMatt

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    Nov 09, 2008 11:21 AM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidMost straight clubs here are more fun.

    Of the two gay bars in Lincoln one is akin to your corner pub, and isn't too bad to start the night with, but the other is full of clicky wannabe-fashionistas whos voices can shatter glass (and who wern't that way until *after* coming out and into the 'scene').

    The music choices in the straight bars also tend to be better. Our gay dance club here replays the top 40 hit list with a layer of bad house techno on top.

    Then again our straight bars here are infested with UNL students during the school year.


    Haha, I think the one I ended up going to when I was in Lincoln was the little pub-like one, with the stage in the back? It wasn't so bad. At least they were having an underwear contest, lol.
    In KW, our gay bar is being usurped by the sexually ambiguous 'straight' bar that offers $2 drinks. Considering its in the middle of the student ghetto, drinks cost half as much, and the music is consistently better...most homos prefer it. Myself included.
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    Nov 09, 2008 12:02 PM GMT
    The other social factor not mentioned is the rise of health and fitness trends. Well-planned, upscale gyms became the new gay bars... live DJs, juice bars, club lighting (think David Barton gyms) without the poison smoke and alchohol. icon_cool.gif





  • DCEric

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    Nov 09, 2008 2:16 PM GMT
    beaujangle said

    I agree that straight clubs aren't the same. Can you imagine french kissing with another guy in front of straight ppl?


    I now have a new fetish. This is why I shouldn't be allowed on the Intertubes.

    /Just kidding.
  • Menergy_1

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    Nov 09, 2008 3:50 PM GMT
    In northern/central New Mexico - all gay bars and clubs closed some years ago in Santa Fe (absolutely none here....everything is supposedly "gay friendly" or "gay owned" -- but there is no place to congregate except maybe a Friday night gay men's happy hour at Rainbow Vision (an originally gay-retirement community complex here in Santa Fe, which opened a couple of years ago) at a teeny bar they have. Sometimes there's a feeble drag show...

    In Albuquerque, the biggest city in NM (some 450,000 people and with UNV college population too) , ALL the bars but one (The Sidewinder) have closed over the past many months. ALL of them! And Pride Gym, which I hear turned into a bath house on Friday/Saturday nights, closed down some months ago, too. So what's a diva to do? lol

    Also, reported to me (I'm an ex-San Francisco resident), so many of the old iconic gay bars in San Francisco have been sold and bought out, turned into homogenous mixed-clientele bars. Perhaps this reflects that gays are everywhere, no longer clustered in gay communities like the Castro, old Polk street, etc.

    Well, I'd say all the reasons you guys have given could be the cause...although the economy wasn't tanking back when the closures were all happening here.

    A large part of the population in Santa Fe is already-partnered people - so maybe they don't go out to bars any more and don't care that there aren't any exclusively gay venues. The younger ones maybe can't get in to drink anyway. The rest of us singles have turned to the Internet in frustration -- or rely on getting introduced socially to friends of friends, etc. and go from there.


  • DiverScience

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    Nov 09, 2008 3:59 PM GMT
    Well for one thing it's very hard to stay open when you're only able to make money between midnight and 2 in the morning. 2 hours is not long enough to make enough money, but for some reason the "time to go out" keeps getting later and later.

    Which is why I don't even bother going. An hour drive each way plus entry fee isn't worth it for two hours.