Detroit goes chapter 9

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    Jul 18, 2013 8:28 PM GMT
    No surprise here.

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130718/METRO01/307180103/Detroit-files-Chapter-9-bankruptcy
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    Jul 18, 2013 8:49 PM GMT
    We've known for a long time it was coming. Even Howdy Doody is moving out.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/18/us/michigan-detroit-howdy-doody/?hpt=us_c2
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 18, 2013 10:15 PM GMT
    May they take GM with them

    #DisgruntledVoltOwner
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    Jul 18, 2013 10:31 PM GMT
    It's about time. Now hopefully they can actually start a recovery process.
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    Jul 18, 2013 11:31 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidMay they take GM with them

    #DisgruntledVoltOwner


    I thought you were so happy with it?
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    Jul 18, 2013 11:34 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidIt's about time. Now hopefully they can actually start a recovery process.


    I think it's in their long term best interest that they go through this ... just as it was for GM and Chrysler. I'd like to see Detroit make a comeback in my lifetime and that doesn't give them long.
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    Jul 18, 2013 11:34 PM GMT
    It has been in the shop like 8 times in the past year. This past time they will have had my car 5 weeks as of today and still no sign of greeting it back. I applied for "Lemon Law" and was accepted. GM has agreed to replace the car with a new one, but they say it has to be a Volt and I will not take another Volt. So we're in a fight at the moment.
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    Jul 18, 2013 11:42 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt has been in the shop like 8 times in the past year. This past time they will have had my car 5 weeks as of today and still no sign of greeting it back. I applied for "Lemon Law" and was accepted. GM has agreed to replace the car with a new one, but they say it has to be a Volt and I will not take another Volt. So we're in a fight at the moment.


    The last GM car that I had any trouble with at all was my 1993 STS, but since then it's been very smooth sailing.

    Given the business you're in a 2014 Impala LTZ might be the ticket. Cadillac ATS would also be great, but might have too small a back seat.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 18, 2013 11:53 PM GMT
    Nope, going to get another Avalanche since its the last model they are making --- that is, if I can find one. If not, probably a Silverado...I'm just not a car guy
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    Jul 18, 2013 11:53 PM GMT
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    Jul 19, 2013 12:00 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidNope, going to get another Avalanche since its the last model they are making --- that is, if I can find one. If not, probably a Silverado...I'm just not a car guy


    Keep driving big trucks will turn you straight!
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    Jul 19, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    CuriousJockAZ saidNope, going to get another Avalanche since its the last model they are making --- that is, if I can find one. If not, probably a Silverado...I'm just not a car guy


    Keep driving big trucks will turn you straight!


    Yeah right lol
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    Jul 19, 2013 12:43 AM GMT
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    Jul 19, 2013 12:52 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt has been in the shop like 8 times in the past year. This past time they will have had my car 5 weeks as of today and still no sign of greeting it back. I applied for "Lemon Law" and was accepted. GM has agreed to replace the car with a new one, but they say it has to be a Volt and I will not take another Volt. So we're in a fight at the moment.
    Make them give you a full refund, and go get a foreign made vehicle. They look better, are more comfortable to ride in, handle the road better, and last longer. American made vehicles suck.
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    Jul 19, 2013 12:58 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt has been in the shop like 8 times in the past year. This past time they will have had my car 5 weeks as of today and still no sign of greeting it back. I applied for "Lemon Law" and was accepted. GM has agreed to replace the car with a new one, but they say it has to be a Volt and I will not take another Volt. So we're in a fight at the moment.
    Make them give you a full refund, and go get a foreign made vehicle. They look better, are more comfortable to ride in, handle the road better, and last longer. American made vehicles suck.



    I'd love to do that but, unfortunately, due to "Lemon Law" guidelines, if you get a refund they can subtract mileage from the amount and it would actually cost me money because I bought the car on the Zero Down/Zero % financing incentive they were offering. But, if you agree to a "Replacement" you get the full price that you paid toward a new car. The kicker though is that it has to be from the same dealership
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    Jul 19, 2013 3:21 AM GMT

    "Take um to Detroit", "no not Detroit" im laughing icon_lol.gif

  • Webster666

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    Jul 19, 2013 4:30 AM GMT
    Detroit has been going down hill for decades.
    It's a one industry town with lots of competition from all over the world.
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    Jul 19, 2013 6:01 AM GMT

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    Jul 19, 2013 7:09 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt has been in the shop like 8 times in the past year. This past time they will have had my car 5 weeks as of today and still no sign of greeting it back. I applied for "Lemon Law" and was accepted. GM has agreed to replace the car with a new one, but they say it has to be a Volt and I will not take another Volt. So we're in a fight at the moment.
    Make them give you a full refund, and go get a foreign made vehicle. They look better, are more comfortable to ride in, handle the road better, and last longer. American made vehicles suck.


    Sweetie, you're about 10-15 years behind the times.
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    Jul 19, 2013 5:05 PM GMT
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    "Take um to Detroit", "no not Detroit" im laughing icon_lol.gif


    scruffLA saidcongats to De-toilet, now lets start over icon_lol.gif


    scruffLA saidA dedication to De-toilet icon_surprised.gif

    Nice to see you take take so much joy and happiness in the town's suffering and demise.
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    Jul 19, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
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    scruffLA said
    "Take um to Detroit", "no not Detroit" im laughing icon_lol.gif


    scruffLA saidcongats to De-toilet, now lets start over icon_lol.gif


    scruffLA saidA dedication to De-toilet icon_surprised.gif

    Nice to see you take take so much joy and happiness in the town's suffering and demise.


    Since I was born and raised, I am entitled to icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 19, 2013 7:21 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/19/detroit-bankruptcy-unconstitutional_n_3624518.html
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    Jul 19, 2013 8:00 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidIt's about time. Now hopefully they can actually start a recovery process.


    How long have the Democrats had a monopoly on local politics in Detroit?
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    Jul 19, 2013 8:04 PM GMT
    "OBAMA FLASHBACK: ‘WE REFUSED TO LET DETROIT GO BANKRUPT’"

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/18/obama-flashback-we-refused-to-let-detroit-go-bankrupt/
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    Jul 19, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
    WALTER RUSSELL MEAD: Obama To Detroit: Drop Dead.

    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/07/18/obama-to-detroit-drop-dead/

    This is where blue governance has brought Detroit in the end: not even a liberal Democratic administration will step in to save the pensions of thousands of public workers and African Americans, condemning countless innocents to having their pensions and health benefits gutted in bankruptcy court.

    Blue model defenders will point to the cruel exodus of General Motors, the unjust outsourcing of American manufacturing, and the general unfairness of life in the big city as the culprits in the slaying of Detroit. But these champions of the marginalized should keep a few facts in mind.

    Detroit has been spending on average $100 million more than it has taken in for each of the past five years. The city’s $11 billion in unsecured debt includes $6 billion in health and other retirement benefits and $3 billion in retiree pensions for its 20,000 city pensioners, who are slated to receive less than 10 percent of what they were promised. Between 2007 and 2011, an astounding 36 percent of residents lived below the poverty line. Last year, the FBI cited Detroit as having the highest violent crime rate for any major American city. In the first 12 years of the new century, Detroit lost more than 26 percent of its population.

    And now Detroit’s desperate request for a bailout has been turned down by the Obama White House.

    Progressive politicians, wonks, and activists can only blame big corporations and other liberal bogeymen for so long. The truth is that corrupt machine politics in a one-party system devoted to the blue social model wrecked an entire city and thousands of lives beyond repair. The sooner blues come to terms with this reality, the greater chance other cities will have of avoiding Detroit’s fate.