The Great Anthropological Divide.....

  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 20, 2013 7:31 AM GMT
    Could u ever really know what it's like to be someone else? Could u ever put urself in someone else's shoes? Wonder what it's like to be them?.....

    Actors & writers do it all the time. They envision characters, whole heteronyms, each with distinct likes & dislikes. They see people from their daily lives & certain newsworthy figures that end up in novels & plays. One can observe someone u see everyday in a cafe, make up stories about his/her life, but unless u talk to that individual & actually get to know him/her, all u have to go by is what u can deduct or infer from observing him/her. Everyone is a unique individual, and should be treated as so. Those who like to lump & label others does themselves a grave disservice. There is death in the naming. No one wants to be put in a box. Everyone is pluralistic in their perspectives. So many ways to be. Imagine if u can be someone different everyday? Not have to be the same old u everyday. Imagine if u can be free to change as u please. Let ur freak out. Lady Gaga is a great advocate for the idea of "self-play". Like a kid pretending to be a vet then a mommy then a fireman. The sense of "play"---one should never lose it.....And that sense of "play", that kid in all of us, is what makes us all the same icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 20, 2013 4:40 PM GMT
    We all want to be happy, to love & be loved & lead healthy (wealthy) lives---that is the common denominator that bridges the great anthropological divide.....
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    Jul 20, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
    It's all perspective: the more u can see thru someone else's eyes, the better off we will be icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 20, 2013 4:46 PM GMT
    I have pure empathy, and I can tell you, it's a curse.
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    Jul 20, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
    Elusium saidI have pure empathy, and I can tell you, it's a curse.


    Elaborate please?! icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 20, 2013 4:48 PM GMT
    Why call it an anthropological divide, as opposed to a sociological divide?
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    Jul 20, 2013 4:50 PM GMT
    I can feel random people's pain, sense their weaknesses, know what they'll do before they do. You feel bombarded. It can be exhausting, and no, rare is the time that stepping into another person's private universe is a rewarding experience.
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    Jul 20, 2013 4:53 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidWhy call it an anthropological divide, as opposed to a sociological divide?


    Good question ART_DECO icon_smile.gif

    Anthropology encompasses a grander selection of studies in the humanities which includes sociology icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 20, 2013 5:13 PM GMT
    spgem said
    ART_DECO saidWhy call it an anthropological divide, as opposed to a sociological divide?


    Good question ART_DECO icon_smile.gif

    Anthropology encompasses a grander selection of studies in the humanities which includes sociology icon_smile.gif .....

    I'm aware of that, but the specific areas you cited in the OP seemed more sociological than the broader anthropological, which can include the physical. Nor did I think you were going into the cultural, but if you are, fine.
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    Jul 20, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
    spgem said
    Elusium saidI can feel random people's pain, sense their weaknesses, know what they'll do before they do. You feel bombarded. It can be exhausting, and no, rare is the time that stepping into another person's private universe is a rewarding experience.


    There's actually an author that writes about that. Let me remember....There's even a specific term for "feeling over-sensory bombardment".....Shucks, my early stages of Alzeimers is kicking in cause I can't remember all the references!.....

    But yes, I can relate with u because I feel the same way.....


    I remember now: google Diane Ackerman---Are We Living In Sensory Overload or Sensory Poverty?

    Also, "misophonia" & SID.....
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    Jul 20, 2013 9:54 PM GMT
    Elusium saidI can feel random people's pain, sense their weaknesses, know what they'll do before they do. You feel bombarded. It can be exhausting, and no, rare is the time that stepping into another person's private universe is a rewarding experience.


    So are u saying ur kind of like a "mentalist"?.....
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    Jul 20, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
    spgem said
    Elusium saidI can feel random people's pain, sense their weaknesses, know what they'll do before they do. You feel bombarded. It can be exhausting, and no, rare is the time that stepping into another person's private universe is a rewarding experience.


    So are u saying ur kind of like a "mentalist"?.....



    No, but if you shine a goose neck lamp on your back and snap a photo, it sure makes you look like one.
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    Jul 20, 2013 10:22 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    spgem said
    Elusium saidI can feel random people's pain, sense their weaknesses, know what they'll do before they do. You feel bombarded. It can be exhausting, and no, rare is the time that stepping into another person's private universe is a rewarding experience.


    So are u saying ur kind of like a "mentalist"?.....



    No, but if you shine a goose neck lamp on your back and snap a photo, it sure makes you look like one.


    Ladies first icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 20, 2013 11:19 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    spgem said
    ART_DECO saidWhy call it an anthropological divide, as opposed to a sociological divide?


    Good question ART_DECO icon_smile.gif

    Anthropology encompasses a grander selection of studies in the humanities which includes sociology icon_smile.gif .....

    I'm aware of that, but the specific areas you cited in the OP seemed more sociological than the broader anthropological, which can include the physical. Nor did I think you were going into the cultural, but if you are, fine.


    RJ & the Internet phenomena would be a great study in sociology, cultural anthropology, cultural relativism, ethnography & ethnology icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 21, 2013 3:10 AM GMT
    Spgem, you would enjoy reading Hans Urs von Balthasar's Theo-Drama I: Prologema, in which he lays the dramatic foundations for his subsequent portrayal of the relationship between man and God as a Play in volumes 2-5. In the Prologema, he discusses every single one of the issues you raised. I think he was probably the smartest man of the 20th century, so his thoughts are well worth a glance. Additionally, in his book "Love Alone is Credible," he defends the thesis that our encounters with other men and God are miracles that we are unable to claim for ourselves and subsume into ourselves.

    I will warn you, though - his books aren't for the feint of heart. He is clear and a master of language, but he assumes a great familiarity with Western thought, from Plato to the present day. I have a bit of a difficult time with it because I'm less fluent in the history of western Drama, and he discusses dramatists from every era, and I'm only well-acquainted with the Greek tragedians.
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    Jul 21, 2013 3:13 AM GMT
    spgem said
    ART_DECO said
    spgem said
    ART_DECO saidWhy call it an anthropological divide, as opposed to a sociological divide?


    Good question ART_DECO icon_smile.gif

    Anthropology encompasses a grander selection of studies in the humanities which includes sociology icon_smile.gif .....

    I'm aware of that, but the specific areas you cited in the OP seemed more sociological than the broader anthropological, which can include the physical. Nor did I think you were going into the cultural, but if you are, fine.


    RJ & the Internet phenomena would be a great study in sociology, cultural anthropology, cultural relativism, ethnography & ethnology icon_smile.gif .....


    i think so to. I've been checking out sites today about our new refugee boat people legislation. Im finding it incredible that so many people have no empathy at all for these people arriving here, that is online. Yet IRL people are far more tolerant and empathetic.
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    Jul 21, 2013 3:24 AM GMT
    Someone took a leaf out of my book icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 21, 2013 5:59 AM GMT
    boomerangOz said
    spgem said
    ART_DECO said
    spgem said
    ART_DECO saidWhy call it an anthropological divide, as opposed to a sociological divide?


    Good question ART_DECO icon_smile.gif

    Anthropology encompasses a grander selection of studies in the humanities which includes sociology icon_smile.gif .....

    I'm aware of that, but the specific areas you cited in the OP seemed more sociological than the broader anthropological, which can include the physical. Nor did I think you were going into the cultural, but if you are, fine.


    RJ & the Internet phenomena would be a great study in sociology, cultural anthropology, cultural relativism, ethnography & ethnology icon_smile.gif .....


    i think so to. I've been checking out sites today about our new refugee boat people legislation. Im finding it incredible that so many people have no empathy at all for these people arriving here, that is online. Yet IRL people
    are far more tolerant and empathetic.


    Our empathy is selectively blind.....
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    Jul 21, 2013 6:01 AM GMT
    Rhi_Bran saidSomeone took a leaf out of my book icon_smile.gif


    I get my inspirations for my threads usually as a spin off of another topic brought up in another thread that I can segue or tangent into icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 21, 2013 6:54 AM GMT
    KJSharp saidSpgem, you would enjoy reading Hans Urs von Balthasar's Theo-Drama I: Prologema, in which he lays the dramatic foundations for his subsequent portrayal of the relationship between man and God as a Play in volumes 2-5. In the Prologema, he discusses every single one of the issues you raised. I think he was probably the smartest man of the 20th century, so his thoughts are well worth a glance. Additionally, in his book "Love Alone is Credible," he defends the thesis that our encounters with other men and God are miracles that we are unable to claim for ourselves and subsume into ourselves.

    I will warn you, though - his books aren't for the feint of heart. He is clear and a master of language, but he assumes a great familiarity with Western thought, from Plato to the present day. I have a bit of a difficult time with it because I'm less fluent in the history of western Drama, and he discusses dramatists from every era, and I'm only well-acquainted with the Greek tragedians.


    Thx for sharing that KJ icon_smile.gif I def checkout Hans Urs von Balthazar icon_smile.gif .....
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    Jul 21, 2013 7:09 AM GMT
    Yes many times and I have realised that if I am not in a position to help them or do anything about the situation then I am just exhausting myself emotionally and may be even physically and financially. I am usually better off when I am the focus of my life.
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    Jul 22, 2013 2:47 AM GMT
    ricky1987 saidYes many times and I have realised that if I am not in a position to help them or do anything about the situation then I am just exhausting myself emotionally and may be even physically and financially. I am usually better off when I am the focus of my life.


    U can be a good Samaritan just by doing volunteer service to help those in need icon_smile.gif .....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Aug 04, 2013 4:12 AM GMT
    Unintended saidKnowing exactly how somebody else feels and experiences life is impossible.

    Writers make up characters -- these are not real people.


    Biographers too?.....