have you ever noticed...

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    Sep 12, 2007 1:17 AM GMT
    ..When people on this site spark a discussion that you have to make sure you think about every possible way they can (and will) use and twist your words around?

    I constantly feel like you need to be on every word, the way its placed the way its toned. All of it.

    (and use of dictionary terms I mean come on)...just because it's displayed that way on paper doesnt mean it's always used in that context via pop culture.

    anyone else?
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    Sep 12, 2007 2:10 AM GMT
    well i suppose thats the case sometimes. But I have noticed that when I happen to do it, it happens because of the typing issue. It's difficult to tell what the person's tone is when they say what they type. So you almost have to run it through your head to try and figure out their perspective, so you don't sound like a total ass answering them. But i suppose other cases are that the person is just a jerk, or maybe they are extremely sarcastic. But once again its difficult to tell with just typing.
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    Sep 12, 2007 2:11 AM GMT
    Yes. I've noticed that inarticulate, irrational and reactive posters receive a lot of heat.

    The courteous dictionary definitions intended for their enlightenment seem to have little effect, unfortunately.

    Xs & Os
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    Sep 12, 2007 2:13 AM GMT
    I've been to many forums, mostly ones that are oriented to hobbies and social activities, and yeah people can be overly touchy.

    I think it stems from not seeing the facial expressions and body language, nor hearing the tone of voice, that complements communication so we understand each other better.

    Forum sites with a generous library of emoticons (smiley icons) make communication easier. Here at RealJock we have to second guess more often and that can backfire sometimes. **shrug** :^)

    Then some people, knowing most folks online are anonymous, feel free to be total jerks - they'd never behave that way in public.

    I can only suggest that if one feels moody, then to stay away from a place like this until one feels more grounded. A good amount of experience at various online forums can help hone one's posting skills too! :^D

    It really depends on many factors I guess.

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    Sep 12, 2007 2:13 AM GMT
    It's not this site heh, it's the nature of forum arguments. It's not quite like talking in person, so if you're going to post something that will be argued, be ready for this.
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    Sep 12, 2007 3:03 AM GMT
    Thats exactly how I feel. Girlfriend, it makes me so mad. like omg!
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    Sep 12, 2007 3:11 AM GMT
    I am so with you, Slayer. I don't know how you abide people twisting your words when you are nothing but tolerant of other people's opinions. And, oh, those dictionaries! I mean, oh my god, don't people know words mean whatever you say they mean????

    Since people twist your words, you have every right to twist the dictionary's words!
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    Sep 12, 2007 3:12 AM GMT
    Slayer, I'm wondering if this is in regards to the forum on gay marriage, and a reaction either to the two guys who flamed me or my reply to them... Is it so?? (No offense taken if it is - just curious.)

    I think that there is a lot to be said for body language, vocal intonation, and facial expression.

    I try (not always successfully, mind you) to not take offense at things that are said, taking the above into consideration in order to understand the context. However, sometimes, people can be just plain downright rude and ignorant, and that's when I generally lose it, despite the fact that I don't want to.

    I don't claim to be perfect, or that my ideas are foolproof or absolutely right. I specifically look for other people's opinions in order to get a different perspective on a problem or issue. Differences are good. They promote thought and discussion.

    I subscribe to the saying that, "The man who takes offense when offense is not intended is a fool, and the man who takes offense when offense IS intended is a bigger fool." I guess today, I was the bigger fool.

    "Some days, you get the bear, and other days, the bear gets you."

    Apologies,
    Steve
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    Sep 12, 2007 3:20 AM GMT
    As has been posted above, you can't tell any of the other non-verbals when you have a post. You only have someone's words printed. You can either take them at face value, assume that the poster is an intelligent person, and give them the benefit of the doubt, or you can challenge them. I've found that coming on strong to push your point can just devolve into a pissing match, and no matter who "wins" that, everyone is covered in piss. Not something that I like to bother with.

    If we all just try to see it from the other's point of view and respond in kindness, we'll all be better off.
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    Sep 12, 2007 4:40 AM GMT
    I just think you are all a bunch of overly sensitive homos that need to lighten up a little bit. People will twist your words in any discussion even if its in person.

    If you want, I can pass you a tissue that you can use to wipe your tears.

    Just like everyone has an asshole they have an opinion and well they arnt always the same. Dont take it personally when people disagree with what your saying.

    And just ignore the rude and offensive people on here that just post shit to aggrivate others, or if its really offensive, then report them and get them kicked off, which has happened in the past.

    And if this forum doesnt have spell check then who cares about spelling.
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    Sep 12, 2007 6:17 AM GMT
    Ah bless. I heart Sundown.
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    Sep 12, 2007 11:37 AM GMT
    of course this topic is fueled by certain people.

    especially owl and obscene which I knew would post here and not use a mature or kind approach...just wanted everyone to see how they'd react and they didnt let me down.

    thanks :)
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    Sep 12, 2007 11:38 AM GMT
    I've actually never noticed that at all, but then, I only read my own posts. I am so much more informed on all issues than everyone else that it seems pointless to actually read everything they've typed. Sometimes, I'll pick a phrase or two and arbitrarily quote them if I need fuel for my rebarbative wit, but otherwise, I'd rather bitch about meat.
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    Sep 12, 2007 11:45 AM GMT
    I've just realised that that could be misread as rude or agressive. I should have put LOL or some such at the end
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    Sep 12, 2007 12:30 PM GMT
    Can_duathelete said it exactly right with;

    'I just think you are all a bunch of overly sensitive homos that need to lighten up a little bit'

    Persoanlly I think it's good when posters are challenged about what they write on RJ. Like when speaking it pays to actually engage your brain before hitting those keys.

    What you are writing appears on a forum for many people to see. It doesn't take much effort on our part to take a few minutes to check what we write makes sense and can't be misinterpreted.

    Cheers

    Lozx

    ps. Colm honey I am glad you are reading your posts - because no one else is ;)
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    Sep 12, 2007 12:48 PM GMT
    ha ha ha well said can, and grrrr yuo are sex on legs!

    I think people take too many things too heart but it doesnt help if your post comes over as opinionated, even if its not meant to be (blushes)

    People phrase sentances in different ways as part of their response be it questioning technique or what. Text doesnt show emotion and people can interpret it whatever way they wish depending on their frame of mind.

    Their is one caveat to that tho, peopl who continually post in the same vane albeit a different subject. Regular forum goers see their post and you can read through the fluff and the bullshit to see the true essence of the argument they are posing.

    I mean look at this start post (and Im not having a go at you here as I have no beef with you) but if you break it down:

    It starts with a lead in that makes you think it will be a contentious subject, or an oh no here he goes

    Then it uses this site as an example and back this up with a statement in brackets (again confrontational)

    In the next para It personalises it "why me why me why me"

    and then it makes a sarcastic statement obviously based on some forum occurance, and finishes that one off with a statement as matter of fact

    And to top it all it finishes off with a challenge

    So there ya go I have used, twisted and analysed your tone. Which is exactly was the purpose of the attention seeking post in the first place.

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    Sep 12, 2007 12:50 PM GMT
    mind you my grammar and spelling was crap ha ha ha ha ha ha xxxx
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    Sep 12, 2007 12:58 PM GMT
    This is, after all, Real JOCK, a site styled after a group of people both celebrated and derided for their hot bodies, participation in team sports, poor grasp of linguistic skills and manifestly homoerotic behaviour.

    What I guess I should say is that if someone pisses you off here, do what a JOCK would do and:

    1) Snap your towel at them....
    2) Put itching powder in their JOCK strap.
    3) Round up your bros, wrestle them to the ground and fake hump them.
    4) Smash their jaw if you're really angry!
    5) Doggy-pile!

    I am strongly considering setting up a rival site, RealBOHEMIAN, which will be a new and convivial online society for the terminally polite, self effacing free-spirit. It will be characterised by conversation at the highest academic levels, a desire to persue the Classical aesthetic for the body of a gentleman and extensive monographs on the virtues of snuff.
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    Sep 12, 2007 1:00 PM GMT
    gosh that sounds like a right boring site!

    And whats a doggy pile?????
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    Sep 12, 2007 1:06 PM GMT
    bfg: You are clearly not a jock, then! And, so it seems, not a bohemian either.

    A search on YouTube will provide many examples of a Doggy Pile.
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    Sep 12, 2007 1:12 PM GMT
    no Im English, damn yanks! ;-), ah you mean a "bundle"
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    Sep 12, 2007 1:15 PM GMT
    Well, as it happens, I am English too! This Tiger strongly resents being called a Yank!

    So put that up your pipe and smoke it!

    ::snaps towel across bfg's bum:: (In a friendly manner of course :-))

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    Sep 12, 2007 1:18 PM GMT
    wahooo snap away baby i enjoyed that
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    Sep 12, 2007 1:37 PM GMT
    What I noticed most was that while you thought you'd score a point or something with a comment in another thread about hair loss, you seem rather advanced in that area yourself, especially for someone so young, bigmouth. Er, I mean, baldy.
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    Sep 12, 2007 2:32 PM GMT
    XOXO