We're All Created Equal?.....

  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 21, 2013 4:21 PM GMT
    When u see the unfairness in life, do u sometimes think that American phrase is a sham? Do u think their is such a divide between the haves & have-nots & all the associations that entails that "we're all equal in God's eyes" is a cruel joke He played on the have-nots?.....
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 21, 2013 4:29 PM GMT
    I don't think I'm better than anyone. I work hard to excel in some areas, but deep down I know that on a certain level we're all the same.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 21, 2013 4:56 PM GMT
    We are all carbon based but that doesn't mean we are all the same
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    Jul 21, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
    There's unity in diversity.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 21, 2013 7:45 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI don't think I'm better than anyone. I work hard to excel in some areas, but deep down I know that on a certain level we're all the same.


    True. We all want the same things in life: health, wealth, love, happiness.....
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    Jul 21, 2013 8:14 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidThat phrase is always misunderstood. It doesn't mean we're all created equal in abilities, looks, etc. It means we're all to be treated equally under the law.


    I agree with this. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, even if they are a good person or not.
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    Jul 21, 2013 8:28 PM GMT
    I don't mean to derail your thread spgem, but if there is one phrase that is a 100% sham, it's the below pic. If you have all of those assets, it's not because you're highly educated. It's because you're lucky!

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    Jul 21, 2013 9:49 PM GMT
    Erik101 saidI don't mean to derail your thread spgem, but if there is one phrase that is a 100% sham, it's the below pic. If you have all of those assets, it's not because you're highly educated. It's because you're lucky!

    justification-for-higher-education.jpg


    O to be a trust-fund baby!.....
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    Jul 22, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
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    Jul 22, 2013 12:43 AM GMT
    In theory, we are all created equal. However the family, or situation we are born into sometimes gives others an edge. I was born into a lower middle class family. So obviously that means I'm going to work a little harder to get what I want versus someone with alot of money, or a parent willing to buy them everything. But that isn't always the case, sometimes, they work just as hard as me, or they work even harder than me.

    I think there is some truth to the statement, but it is very overgeneralized.
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    Jul 22, 2013 12:48 AM GMT
    No, we are not created equally. Neither biologically nor circumstancially. The American ideal I believe in, however, states that no one should be condemned to any living circumstance if they are willing to earn something else. I do believe we are equal in that we all have this moment, and only this moment, to decide how we wish to proceed. That is the same for everyone, even though the specifics vary with the individual.

    When I see unfairness in life I am reminded to be grateful for what I have, to help others when I can, and to stay focused on what I want out of life.
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    Jul 22, 2013 12:50 AM GMT
    I believe it is true.
    Everyone is a human being and essentially we are all conceived the same way so we should all have the same rights.

    It's when people start thinking that because of their race, looks, socioeconomic status etc. that they feel they are the alpha humans and deserve more rights than others.
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    Jul 22, 2013 12:57 AM GMT


    Oh good grief. That expression was specific in context to your Declaration.

    " Before final approval, Congress, having made a few alterations to some of the wording, also deleted nearly a fourth of the draft, including a passage critical of the slave trade."

    " At that time many members of Congress, including Jefferson, owned slaves, which clearly factored into their decision to delete the controversial "anti-slavery" passage.[11] In 1776, abolitionist Thomas Day responding to the hypocrisy in the Declaration wrote:
    If there be an object truly ridiculous in nature, it is an American patriot, signing resolutions of independency with the one hand, and with the other brandishing a whip over his affrighted slaves."

    Wiki.

    Context, people, context. The phrase is specific to the declaration, not a universal saying applicable in all aspects and situations.

    Is a person who has spina bifida created equal in physiology to someone who was born blind? Nope.
    Are they equal, when born, to certain inalienable rights, including the pursuit of life liberty and happiness?
    Yes.




  • Eli_jah

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    Jul 22, 2013 1:31 AM GMT
    I think the more interesting question is, are we really all "special"?

    Probably not.
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    Jul 22, 2013 1:35 AM GMT
    NeutralObserver saidI think the more interesting question is, are we really all "special"?

    Probably not.


    The reason no one is special anymore is that somewhere along the line we were infested with an epidemic of "EVERYONE HAS TO BE MADE TO FEEL SPECIAL". And thus, no one was special.
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    Jul 22, 2013 1:37 AM GMT
    Matiz said
    NeutralObserver saidI think the more interesting question is, are we really all "special"?

    Probably not.


    The reason no one is special anymore is that somewhere along the line we were infested with an epidemic of "EVERYONE HAS TO BE MADE TO FEEL SPECIAL". And thus, no one was special.


    *scratches my head at that one*

    But what about loved? If we were all made to feel loved by being loved would that mean no one is loved? *eye twinkle*

    PS you have permission to slap me solidly into next week
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    Jul 22, 2013 1:38 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    Matiz said
    NeutralObserver saidI think the more interesting question is, are we really all "special"?

    Probably not.


    The reason no one is special anymore is that somewhere along the line we were infested with an epidemic of "EVERYONE HAS TO BE MADE TO FEEL SPECIAL". And thus, no one was special.


    *scratches my head at that one*

    But what about loved? If we were all made to feel loved by being loved would that mean no one is loved? *eye twinkle*


    I was referring to a culture of "Ok we're having a competition. Ok you won BUT EVERYONE ELSE GETS A TROPHY TOO! AND CAKE! AND ICE CREAM! YAY NO ONE IS LEFT OUT!!"
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    Jul 22, 2013 1:47 AM GMT
    This old whore has been with enough men to know we all weren't created equal. icon_wink.gificon_wink.gif


    "The truth will set you free," is another great lie.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 22, 2013 2:03 AM GMT
    WaytoDawn saidIn theory, we are all created equal. However the family, or situation we are born into sometimes gives others an edge. I was born into a lower middle class family. So obviously that means I'm going to work a little harder to get what I want versus someone with alot of money, or a parent willing to buy them everything. But that isn't always the case, sometimes, they work just as hard as me, or they work even harder than me.

    I think there is some truth to the statement, but it is very overgeneralized.


    True. Wonder what the statistics would be? How many born into wealthy families work as hard or harder as those born into middle class or poor families.....
  • deep388

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    Jul 22, 2013 2:11 AM GMT
    Harry7785 saidThere's unity in diversity.


    Reminds me of my Incredible India travel brochure.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Jul 22, 2013 2:12 AM GMT
    NerdMonastery saidI believe it is true.
    Everyone is a human being and essentially we are all conceived the same way so we should all have the same rights.

    It's when people start thinking that because of their race, looks, socioeconomic status etc. that they feel they are the alpha humans and deserve more rights than others.


    True.
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    Jul 22, 2013 2:14 AM GMT
    Governments, if they endure, always tend increasingly toward aristocratic forms. No government in history has been known to evade this pattern. And as the aristocracy develops, government tends more and more to act exclusively in the interests of the ruling class — whether that class be hereditary royalty, oligarchs of financial empires, or entrenched bureaucracy.

    A quote from my favorite book series Dune by Frank Herbert.
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    Jul 22, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
    LiamHeartGold saidGovernments, if they endure, always tend increasingly toward aristocratic forms. No government in history has been known to evade this pattern. And as the aristocracy develops, government tends more and more to act exclusively in the interests of the ruling class — whether that class be hereditary royalty, oligarchs of financial empires, or entrenched bureaucracy.

    A quote from my favorite book series Dune by Frank Herbert.


    Very good Liam icon_smile.gif So true icon_smile.gif .....
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 22, 2013 5:16 AM GMT
    Matiz said
    meninlove said
    Matiz said
    NeutralObserver saidI think the more interesting question is, are we really all "special"?

    Probably not.


    The reason no one is special anymore is that somewhere along the line we were infested with an epidemic of "EVERYONE HAS TO BE MADE TO FEEL SPECIAL". And thus, no one was special.


    *scratches my head at that one*

    But what about loved? If we were all made to feel loved by being loved would that mean no one is loved? *eye twinkle*


    I was referring to a culture of "Ok we're having a competition. Ok you won BUT EVERYONE ELSE GETS A TROPHY TOO! AND CAKE! AND ICE CREAM! YAY NO ONE IS LEFT OUT!!"

    And if someone is successful, push her down the stairs!icon_mad.gif
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    Jul 22, 2013 5:38 AM GMT
    Just quoting a line from one of my favorite anime:

    ~"All men are not created equal. Some are born swifter of foot. Some with greater beauty. Some are born into poverty. And others born sick and feeble. Both in birth and in upbringing, in sheer scope of ability, every human is inherently different. Yes, that is why people discriminate against one another, which is why there is struggle, competition, and the unfaltering march of progress. Inequality is not wrong; equality is."