Gay Sugar Babies?

  • Bakerboy

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    Jul 22, 2013 5:15 PM GMT
    Hey all -- File this under the more unusual posts in this forum, but I'm in the process of writing a story for Philly Mag's G Philly about gay-male sugar babies, and I'm looking to hear experiences from the perspective of a college student. If, by some chance, you've been in a "sugar" relationship, or know someone who has been (especially if there's a Philly tie-in), I'm all ears -- and no worries, I'm allowed to use pseudonyms. Feel free to shoot me a message if you don't want to discuss it in the thread.

    But beyond seeking people specifically for my story, I am curious: How does everyone feel about the idea of being a companion/sex partner for buckets of cash and endless gifts? I'm getting the impression that it's less frowned upon in the gay community than in the hetero world.

    Anywho, any help's greatly appreciated!
    -B
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    Jul 22, 2013 5:24 PM GMT
    Relationships of convenience are probably more common than you think. Both in the gay and straight world. It's just that the smaller the age gap, the less obvious it is.
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    Jul 22, 2013 5:26 PM GMT
    Bakerboy said
    How does everyone feel about the idea of being a companion/sex partner for buckets of cash and endless gifts? I'm getting the impression that it's less frowned upon in the gay community than in the hetero world.


    Wanna bet?

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    Jul 22, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
    Better than heartache, and it can be a win-win for both parties, especially if there is genuine lust going both ways! icon_lol.gif

    There is something sexy about every single man, and if a man has the testicular fortitude to admit that he is unable to expect someone to commit to him within the context of a 'normal' relationship and understands that the other party needs to be renumerated for lack of time or commitment (he could have a wife and children, for example) then he is a gentleman, and that IS sexy.

  • MikeW

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    Jul 22, 2013 6:39 PM GMT
    I'm confused. I thought "sugar babies" were supposed to be the rich boys paying the older daddies. FRACK, no wonder all my solicitations have been ignored! icon_redface.gif
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    Jul 22, 2013 10:27 PM GMT
    MikeW saidI'm confused. I thought "sugar babies" were supposed to be the rich boys paying the older daddies. FRACK, no wonder all my solicitations have been ignored! icon_redface.gif
    Another thing I've learned: More people than you'd think don't actually know what a sugar baby is. I thought it was pretty obvious, but I can see how you'd think it's the reverse.
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    Jul 22, 2013 10:29 PM GMT
    We call them Houseboys here.
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    Jul 22, 2013 10:33 PM GMT
    Fortis saidBetter than heartache, and it can be a win-win for both parties, especially if there is genuine lust going both ways! icon_lol.gif

    There is something sexy about every single man, and if a man has the testicular fortitude to admit that he is unable to expect someone to commit to him within the context of a 'normal' relationship and understands that the other party needs to be renumerated for lack of time or commitment (he could have a wife and children, for example) then he is a gentleman, and that IS sexy.



    I'm confused as to what you mean.
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    Jul 22, 2013 10:36 PM GMT
    According to one of the threads here, i should enter Plaçage..... i refuse
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    Jul 22, 2013 10:50 PM GMT
    CopperDevil saidAccording to one of the threads here, i should enter Plaçage..... i refuse


    What's placage?

    Is that an escort service?
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    Jul 22, 2013 10:50 PM GMT
    TransparentUnity said

    I'm confused as to what you mean.


    Try using a dictionary.
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    Jul 22, 2013 10:55 PM GMT
    ooooh, sugarbabes!

    Sugababes-Overload from Scorpion7 on Vimeo.

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    Jul 22, 2013 10:59 PM GMT
    Fortis said
    TransparentUnity said

    I'm confused as to what you mean.


    Try using a dictionary.


    I meant the way you phrased things is confusing.
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    Jul 22, 2013 11:09 PM GMT
    Bakerboy said
    MikeW saidI'm confused. I thought "sugar babies" were supposed to be the rich boys paying the older daddies. FRACK, no wonder all my solicitations have been ignored! icon_redface.gif
    Another thing I've learned: More people than you'd think don't actually know what a sugar baby is. I thought it was pretty obvious, but I can see how you'd think it's the reverse.
    It goes both ways. Traditionally, it was older and established men that would support their younger companions. But with the tech boom, it's not uncommon for younger guys to make close to 6-figure salaries.
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    Jul 22, 2013 11:20 PM GMT
    TransparentUnity said
    CopperDevil saidAccording to one of the threads here, i should enter Plaçage..... i refuse


    What's placage?

    Is that an escort service?


    Not exactly, its an old system widely In the antebellum era mostly practiced in the south east.

    Where white men would have mulatto, quadroon, and african " sugar babies ". These women were not slaves, they were free women of color and they were paid, housed, clothed, and lived in wealth. under the care of their White suitor. The women were called placées. Its basically like having a sugar daddy.



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    Jul 22, 2013 11:22 PM GMT
    CopperDevil said
    TransparentUnity said
    CopperDevil saidAccording to one of the threads here, i should enter Plaçage..... i refuse


    What's placage?

    Is that an escort service?


    Not exactly, its an old system widely In the antebellum era mostly practiced in the south east.

    Where white men would have mulatto, quadroon, and african " sugar babies ". These women were not slaves, they were free women of color and they were paid, housed, clothed, and lived in wealth. under the care of their White suitor. The women were called placées. Its basically like having a sugar daddy.





    Hm I'd do that.
  • Timbales

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    Jul 22, 2013 11:25 PM GMT
    hellass saidooooh, sugarbabes!

    Sugababes-Overload from Scorpion7 on Vimeo.



    love that song, but I also love

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    Jul 22, 2013 11:31 PM GMT
    Long-fought, hard-earned marriage rights vs houseboy.

    I suppose a houseboy would save the expense of drawing up a prenup.
  • Bakerboy

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    Jul 23, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
    theantijock saidLong-fought, hard-earned marriage rights vs houseboy.

    I suppose a houseboy would save the expense of drawing up a prenup.
    Some make contracts. Contracts that leave out the sex, obviously, but contracts nonetheless.
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    Jul 23, 2013 3:33 PM GMT
    Bakerboy said
    theantijock saidLong-fought, hard-earned marriage rights vs houseboy.

    I suppose a houseboy would save the expense of drawing up a prenup.
    Some make contracts. Contracts that leave out the sex, obviously, but contracts nonetheless.


    I was speaking to this...

    Bakerboy said...I'm getting the impression that it's less frowned upon in the gay community than in the hetero world...


    ...that our community needs to learn how to accept responsibility for caring for each other because we've lived for 1000s of years without structures supporting that.

    So I hope you will be neither judgmental in your article, nor glorifying an aspect of this community which provides mere convenience but neither the substance nor satisfaction provided by family which we have fought to have recognized and are only now in the very earliest stages of acquiring our rights to live as fully human as do str8s.

    That's the conversation we need to be having. Not whether or not you should give the houseboy every other Wednesday off.