Grim outlook for gay refugees under new Australian asylum seeker policy

  • metta

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    Jul 23, 2013 5:31 AM GMT
    Grim outlook for gay refugees under new Australian asylum seeker policy

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/grim-outlook-gay-refugees-under-new-australian-asylum-seeker-policy230713
  • Apparition

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    Jul 23, 2013 7:01 AM GMT
    they need to make the equivalent of israel for gay people
  • The_Guruburu

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    Jul 23, 2013 7:04 AM GMT
    Apparition saidthey need to make the equivalent of israel for gay people

    But whose country will we carve up and settle?
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    Jul 23, 2013 12:34 PM GMT
    Its not necessarily a grim outlook at all -

    Asylum can still be sought, via the normal methods - where the new policy will cause problems is if they decide to come from another country via boat.

    I dont personally have an opinion either way, but a large number of the 'asylum seekers' have come from the middle east, crossed europe, a lot of asia to try and start a life in Australia - where they could potentially have sought and received asylum in any one of the dozen or so countries they crossed to get here.

    Effectively, economic refugees.



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    Jul 23, 2013 1:34 PM GMT
    Gays shouldn't support a US President who gives New Guinea US tax dollars for foreign aid via the IMF.

    Once again, selfish liberal US gays sacrifice someone else to get some monetary benefits for themselves.
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    Jul 23, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
    sc69 saidIts not necessarily a grim outlook at all -

    Asylum can still be sought, via the normal methods - where the new policy will cause problems is if they decide to come from another country via boat.

    I dont personally have an opinion either way, but a large number of the 'asylum seekers' have come from the middle east, crossed europe, a lot of asia to try and start a life in Australia - where they could potentially have sought and received asylum in any one of the dozen or so countries they crossed to get here.

    Effectively, economic refugees.





    The debate is getting more and more ridiculous down here. What you said Shane is true, I really have little time for these boat arrivals.
    Funny the divide amongst our population seems to be economic also. I wonder how all these bleeding hearts would feel if these "boat arrivals" were settled in the more affluent suburbs. Go to Mirrabooka, Sydneys West or any other Western Suburb on the East Coast and see how these Economic Migrants behave towards the locals particularly to our Indigenous people. The local forums talking about this are clearly divided along class lines.
    Why should these people get preference over refugees in camps all over the world?, none, and yes I know there is no queue.
  • Fable

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    Jul 23, 2013 2:02 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidGays shouldn't support a US President who gives New Guinea US tax dollars for foreign aid via the IMF.

    Once again, selfish liberal US gays sacrifice someone else to get some monetary benefits for themselves.



    what are you talking about?


    I think you're more than a little confused with a heavy handful of pedantic.
  • Suetonius

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    Jul 23, 2013 6:18 PM GMT
    sc69 saidIts not necessarily a grim outlook at all -

    Asylum can still be sought, via the normal methods - where the new policy will cause problems is if they decide to come from another country via boat.

    I dont personally have an opinion either way, but a large number of the 'asylum seekers' have come from the middle east, crossed europe, a lot of asia to try and start a life in Australia - where they could potentially have sought and received asylum in any one of the dozen or so countries they crossed to get here.

    Effectively, economic refugees.


    It seems improbable that gay Iranians could be "economic" refugees. It must have cost a lot to get from Iran to wherever they embarked on a boat to Australia. It would be interesting to know what route they took. It is understandable that if you are fleeing from Iran, and you speak english, that you would want asylum in an english speaking country. The UK is very difficult to get into these days, and they probably could not have obtained a visa for any of them to get into anyplace legally. (Which would have allowed them to fly in, rather than arrive by boat.)
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    Jul 23, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
    Enough already this is all about which political party in Australia can use these refugees to their political advantage. Should we not be more concerned about the loss of lives on the sinking boats and be generous of spirit to all who seek shelter from persecution.
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    Jul 24, 2013 12:27 AM GMT
    Apparition saidthey need to make the equivalent of israel for gay people


    That was Fire Island, but now its full of poz retirees, so nobody young goes there.
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    Jul 24, 2013 12:34 AM GMT
    Pacha saidEnough already this is all about which political party in Australia can use these refugees to their political advantage. Should we not be more concerned about the loss of lives on the sinking boats and be generous of spirit to all who seek shelter from persecution.


    Absolutely right about both parties using it for political advantage. However in life you take risks, if those risks mean you could die as a result of your own personal actions and decisions then deal with the potential consequences.

    We as Australian taxpayers cannot be responsible.

    Also the Media could do a better job of reporting what's actually going on, and stop being so alarmist
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    Jul 24, 2013 11:48 AM GMT
    We hear a lot about 'fleeing persecution', if I put myself in the shoes of the people who are fleeing persecution in Iran, I found at least a dozen other countries I could attempt entry (illegal or otherwise) closer and before Australia.

    Lets remember, these refugees are crossing MANY borders where their persecutors can no longer reach them, where they can access humanitarian aid and make application for asylum - they wait until they can get to Indonesia, where they pay a huge amount of money to criminals to put them on boats to get to Australia.

    They could as easily travel westward to Europe should they wish, to Europe, or as the African refugees do to Lampedusa.

    I dont begrudge humanitarian aid, or asylum from persecution, but I'm concerned that the definition of a refugee isn't what it used to be.