ABC/WaPo poll: 40% agree Zimmerman’s shooting of Martin wasn’t justified, 26% think it was

  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 25, 2013 9:14 AM GMT
    Whites, hispanics, blacks, just about every age group, every economic group all agree: George Zimmerman is a violent douchebag. The only people who think it's okay to stalk, terrify, and kill unarmed kids: Republicans, conservatives, and people aged 65+. What a shock.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/07/22/abcwapo-poll-40-think-zimmermans-shooting-of-martin-wasnt-justified-26-think-it-was/How could the public be divided on the verdict but much less divided on the shooting itself? Because, I assume, one question deals more with moral culpability and the other deals with legal culpability. There’s some subset of people here who probably believe (a) either Zimmerman’s at fault for getting out of his car in the first place and/or that he’s lying about how the confrontation happened but also (b) the prosecution simply didn’t prove manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt. In other words, 41 percent believe he’s not guilty but only 26 percent believe he’s truly innocent.

    That view, that the shooting was unjustified, prevailed across nearly every demographic — political, racial, age. The notable exceptions who think it was justified are Republicans, conservatives, and voters 65 and over, all of which overlap considerably.


    More proof that old right-wing Republicans are washed up and out of touch with the views of decent, law-abiding Americans who don't want their streets awash in blood from Wild Wild West showdowns. Enter President Hillary Clinton, because as I've maintained throughout this tragedy: most Americans of all backgrounds are good people.
  • TheBizMan

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    Jul 25, 2013 9:17 AM GMT
    Are you ready? Here we go.
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    Jul 25, 2013 12:03 PM GMT
    Uh oh, hang on to your hats everybody. This could get ugly.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 25, 2013 2:02 PM GMT
    The poll left out the fact that 100% of the respondents were not at the scene when this incident happened nor were they in the courtroom to see and hear all the evidence presented. Aside from that this is a very valuable poll.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jul 25, 2013 2:29 PM GMT
    RoseyEasy saidThe poll left out the fact that 100% of the respondents were not at the scene when this incident happened nor were they in the courtroom to see and hear all the evidence presented. Aside from that this is a very valuable poll.



    ^^^^ THIS ^^^^ and, of course, it should also be noted that 100% of the Jury disagrees with the stats of this poll --- and at the end of the day this is all that really matters. We can argue the points from now until the end of time, but it will not change the outcome.
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    Jul 25, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
    This ^^^^^^ should shortly get a response from a certain RJ member calling you both pathological liars and racists. Shouldn't be long at all now.
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    Jul 25, 2013 8:59 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidThis ^^^^^^ should shortly get a response from a certain RJ member calling you both pathological liars and racists. Shouldn't be long at all now.


    Awww, does your vagina hurt you pathological lying racist?

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  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 25, 2013 9:00 PM GMT
    RoseyEasy saidThe poll left out the fact that 100% of the respondents were not at the scene when this incident happened nor were they in the courtroom to see and hear all the evidence presented. Aside from that this is a very valuable poll.


    In other words, since 100% of Americans weren't there during the slavery/Civil War, the Revolutionary War, the Salem Witch trials, the killing of Casey Anthony, the killing of Ron Goldman & Nicole Brown...they aren't allowed to look at the evidence, choose sides, and form opinions. icon_rolleyes.gif Good luck in convincing anybody of that! Pfft.

    Washed up, out of touch conservative Republicans are well-known from long ago to dismiss polls (and facts) that don't jibe with their preferred narrative -- hence why they were shocked when they were shellacked in the last election.

    The results are in: most Americans are disgusted by the smearing of Trayvon Martin by his killer, and by the fringe right. Sorry this hurts right-wingers feelings. #notsorry
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    Jul 25, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
    Lizzie Borden was acquitted, but that doesn't mean she wasn't guilty. I personally think the jury based their decision on old misconceptions and chose to buy a sketchy story by the defendant.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 25, 2013 9:11 PM GMT
    blkapollo saidLizzie Borden was acquitted, but that doesn't mean she wasn't guilty. I personally think the jury based their decision on old misconceptions and chose to buy a sketchy story by the defendant.


    As the polls indicate, most Americans agree.

    But whoa, whoa, whoa. Lizzie didn't do it. Although she almost certainly knew who did. No comparison with the lying, violent, disgraced child killing thug Zimmerman.



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    Jul 25, 2013 9:54 PM GMT
    " 100% of the Jury disagrees with the stats of this poll --- and at the end of the day this is all that really matters."

    AMEN. LEAVE CASEY ANTHONY ALONE!

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    Jul 25, 2013 11:03 PM GMT
    So transparent. Find a poll and run with it as if it's holy writ. Name call, berate and belittle anyone who dares even think of not falling right into line. Rupaul, the bullying is getting old, and everyone can see it for what it is: The rantings of a very angry man.
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    Jul 25, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    "George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy said. "[But] the law couldn't prove it."
    A woman who sat on the all-female jury that acquitted George Zimmerman said in an interview set to air Friday that the former neighborhood watch captain "got away with murder" in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin.

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/juror-says-george-zimmerman-got-away-with-murder

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    Jul 25, 2013 11:50 PM GMT
    Blakes7 saidSo transparent. Find a poll and run with it as if it's holy writ. Name call, berate and belittle anyone who dares even think of not falling right into line. Rupaul, the bullying is getting old, and everyone can see it for what it is: The rantings of a very angry man.

    When you run out of actual arguments, resort to racist name-calling. Very nice... icon_razz.gif
  • TheBizMan

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    Jul 26, 2013 12:10 AM GMT
    Not guilty, but not innocent.
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    ART_DECO said
    Blakes7 saidSo transparent. Find a poll and run with it as if it's holy writ. Name call, berate and belittle anyone who dares even think of not falling right into line. Rupaul, the bullying is getting old, and everyone can see it for what it is: The rantings of a very angry man.

    When you run out of actual arguments, resort to racist name-calling. Very nice... icon_razz.gif


    I'm sure he's been called A LOT worse than Rupaul. And I'm not getting put on defense every time a left wing bully starts bitching and bullying, so you can forget about that, too. The old, slick liberal tricks don't work on me.
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    Jul 26, 2013 1:47 AM GMT
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    ART_DECO said
    Blakes7 saidSo transparent. Find a poll and run with it as if it's holy writ. Name call, berate and belittle anyone who dares even think of not falling right into line. Rupaul, the bullying is getting old, and everyone can see it for what it is: The rantings of a very angry man.

    When you run out of actual arguments, resort to racist name-calling. Very nice... icon_razz.gif

    I'm sure he's been called A LOT worse than Rupaul. And I'm not getting put on defense every time a left wing bully starts bitching and bullying, so you can forget about that, too. The old, slick liberal tricks don't work on me.

    Nor, evidently, do reason & facts. Par for the Right Wing course. icon_razz.gif
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    Jul 26, 2013 1:48 AM GMT
    You call bullying people into submission "reason and facts"? Reason and facts must mean something different to you.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 26, 2013 3:39 AM GMT
    Blakes7 saidSo transparent. Find a poll and run with it as if it's holy writ. Name call, berate and belittle anyone who dares even think of not falling right into line. Rupaul, the bullying is getting old, and everyone can see it for what it is: The rantings of a very angry man.


    Oh great, Lassie is here to tell us that the poll is skewed. Where have we heard that before? http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/11/unskewed-polling-dean-chambers-barack-obama-voter-fraud

    In fact, "everyone" knows that righteous anger is moral. The only people who feel bullied by my refusal to let them spew bullshit without challenge are men of a certain age and look. We all know what's behind it, and we're shocked, shocked.

    The issue is that a certain subset of men have bullied truth-tellers for years, setting America back. And you guys can't tolerate it when what they dish out is thrown back in your faces, intelligently and unapologetically.

    Those who poison the discourse with lies deserve to be berated. If you don't like it, or can't handle it, exit the thread. Or don't. #whocares? #canthandletheheatgetthefuckoutofthekitchen
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    Jul 26, 2013 3:56 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidThis ^^^^^^ should shortly get a response from a certain RJ member calling you both pathological liars and racists. Shouldn't be long at all now.


    Awww, does your vagina hurt you pathological lying racist?

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    Yep as always Rue ... Liar and racist.

    maybe you should open up your repertoire to reason and decency for a change you blithering ape-lipped piece of shit. You're getting tired and very old, Rue.

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    Blakes7 saidSo transparent. Find a poll and run with it as if it's holy writ. Name call, berate and belittle anyone who dares even think of not falling right into line. Rupaul, the bullying is getting old, and everyone can see it for what it is: The rantings of a very angry man.

    When you run out of actual arguments, resort to racist name-calling. Very nice... icon_razz.gif


    Oh noooo, Rue would never do such a thing would she?
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    Jul 26, 2013 4:48 AM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    Those who poison the discourse with lies deserve to be berated. If you don't like it, or can't handle it, exit the thread. Or don't. #whocares? #canthandletheheatgetthefuckoutofthekitchen




    Where is that Lizzie Borden when ya need her icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 26, 2013 5:34 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
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    On another note...WTF is wrong with RuPaul? Is he sick? He looks horrible....like he just got released from an internment camp or something.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 26, 2013 4:48 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidOn another note...WTF is wrong with RuPaul? Is he sick? He looks horrible....like he just got released from an internment camp or something.


    Spoken like a fat sixty-year-old leathery old wrinkled drag queen whom nobody wants. So sad. I'd suggest sunscreen but it's too late.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jul 26, 2013 4:50 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidmaybe you should open up your repertoire to reason and decency for a change you blithering ape-lipped piece of shit. You're getting tired and very old, Rue.


    Oh no, looks like the dusty, lonely old drag queen soiled his adult diapers again. I don't think you're in any position to call anyone else "tired and old" Methuselah.