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    Jul 25, 2013 1:16 PM GMT
    Motor Twit on C7

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NjYGtxClsM

    Al Oppenheiser on 2014 Z/28

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCnbwm4dcFs&feature=share&list=TLAsvXtbobvSs

    Edmunds 1st test of base C7

    http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/corvette-stingray/2014/road-test.html

    Consumer Reports ranks 2014 PIMPala best overall sedan

    http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f13/breaking-cr-calls-new-impala-best-sedan-u-s-market-123937/

    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130725/RETAIL/130729941#axzz2a3f5pzKB
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    Jul 26, 2013 5:36 AM GMT
    Best sedan, yet no one is buying them except as rental fleets. icon_lol.gif

    Best selling cars as of June 2013..
    http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/07/top-10-best-selling-cars-june-2013.html

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    I would love to see the C7 in person though.
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    Jul 26, 2013 5:37 AM GMT
    xrichx saidBest sedan, yet no one is buying them except as rental fleets. icon_lol.gif

    Best selling cars as of June 2013..
    http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/07/top-10-best-selling-cars-june-2013.html

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    I would love to see the C7 in person though.


    Bullshit. The dealers are just now getting them .... the 2014 NEW Impala. The fleets will still be getting the old one for another year.
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    Jul 26, 2013 5:47 AM GMT
    Malibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.
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    Jul 26, 2013 6:07 AM GMT
    xrichx saidMalibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.


    Actually, no it doesn't. Depends how biased you are ... living in LA is one hint.

    Malibu wasn't such a great car. Impala is, at least in the opinion of (I think) everyone who has reviewed it, including now, the consummate American car hater Consumer Reports.
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    Jul 26, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
    I like the new Impala, look very European high-end. The only thing that ruins the overall look are those antelope emblems. other than that, everything looks good. I haven't seen them at any of the dealers in my area. So no one can say they are not good if they haven't been available to the general public. I took a ride with a friend of mine who's a cop in one of their PPV-only Caprices, and it was amazing. That thing is a dream on 4-wheels. So I'm pretty sure the Impala is gonna be a great sedan as well.

    I'm eagerly awaiting the Escalade and ESV. I can't wait to trade mine for the upcoming models. I'm hoping for a 500 HP+ engine with the Chrome trims as tasteful as the current models instead of going body-color match trim with polished wheels like the Premium trim. One of the things I'm looking forward to it is, they are not gonna share essential body panels with the Tahoe, Suburban Yukon and Yukon XL. Which is great. It doesn't make any sense if you're dropping $75K-$95K for an SUV with the same features and bumper fascias as a $50K Tahoe.
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    Jul 26, 2013 4:23 PM GMT
    xrichx saidMalibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.


    GM has a current split of about 30% retail 70% fleet for Impala sales. The goal is obviously to increase retail sales. The interesting thing about the Impala is there are two versions. The new 2014 is being targeted at retail customers while the old body style will continue to be built for fleets.

    The same thing goes on with the Malibu. And the revived Saturn VUE which is now sold as the fleet only Chevy Captiva. One separate car for fleets and one for retail customers. Helps protect the value of the vehicle down the road.
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    Jul 26, 2013 7:26 PM GMT
    Shame it's not RWD or AWD.
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    Jul 27, 2013 7:15 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidMalibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.


    GM has a current split of about 30% retail 70% fleet for Impala sales. The goal is obviously to increase retail sales. The interesting thing about the Impala is there are two versions. The new 2014 is being targeted at retail customers while the old body style will continue to be built for fleets.

    The same thing goes on with the Malibu. And the revived Saturn VUE which is now sold as the fleet only Chevy Captiva. One separate car for fleets and one for retail customers. Helps protect the value of the vehicle down the road.


    What I said.
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    Jul 27, 2013 7:15 AM GMT
    xrichx saidShame it's not RWD or AWD.


    Chevy SS on the way and V8 only.
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    Jul 27, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
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    xrichx saidShame it's not RWD or AWD.


    Chevy SS on the way and V8 only.
    Manual or slushbox?
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    Jul 27, 2013 6:52 PM GMT
    xrichx saidBest sedan, yet no one is buying them except as rental fleets. icon_lol.gif

    Best selling cars as of June 2013..
    http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/07/top-10-best-selling-cars-june-2013.html

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    I would love to see the C7 in person though.


    I would get none of those. lol. I need to see the c7 in person. Cause right now I aint feelin it.
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    Jul 27, 2013 6:53 PM GMT
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    xrichx saidShame it's not RWD or AWD.


    Chevy SS on the way and V8 only.


    But not the best looking car in the world. Its the G8 part duex.
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    Jul 27, 2013 6:58 PM GMT
    xrichx saidMalibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.


    I was behind a while malibu the other day and thought "why". Why would you pick this car. Its not particularly good. Its not innovative. Its not good to look at. In that segment there are so many choices that would be better. But someone chose this white, plain, uninvolved car. And (sans caddy/Vette) I thought....thats gm in a nut shell. Basically, that will do.
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    Jul 27, 2013 7:40 PM GMT
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    xrichx saidMalibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.


    I was behind a while malibu the other day and thought "why". Why would you pick this car. Its not particularly good. Its not innovative. Its not good to look at. In that segment there are so many choices that would be better. But someone chose this white, plain, uninvolved car. And (sans caddy/Vette) I thought....thats gm in a nut shell. Basically, that will do.
    US auto makers should forget about the mid/full size segment. It's dead. Once the price of the car creeps past $30K, you enter the entry-level luxury car market. Why would anyone choose a loaded Impala, when they can get a base model Cadillac ATS for around the same price?
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    Jul 28, 2013 5:43 AM GMT
    Funny, the comments from LAers ^^^^^^
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    Jul 28, 2013 5:48 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidMalibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.


    I was behind a while malibu the other day and thought "why". Why would you pick this car. Its not particularly good. Its not innovative. Its not good to look at. In that segment there are so many choices that would be better. But someone chose this white, plain, uninvolved car. And (sans caddy/Vette) I thought....thats gm in a nut shell. Basically, that will do.
    US auto makers should forget about the mid/full size segment. It's dead. Once the price of the car creeps past $30K, you enter the entry-level luxury car market. Why would anyone choose a loaded Impala, when they can get a base model Cadillac ATS for around the same price?


    Well, because the new Impala is a great car and far roomier than the ATS. It's a tough decision between the two for me and then through the Chevy SS in the mix top of that. I don't know what I'll get next time.
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    Jul 28, 2013 5:49 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidMalibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.


    I was behind a while malibu the other day and thought "why". Why would you pick this car. Its not particularly good. Its not innovative. Its not good to look at. In that segment there are so many choices that would be better. But someone chose this white, plain, uninvolved car. And (sans caddy/Vette) I thought....thats gm in a nut shell. Basically, that will do.


    If in West LA and it's American, it's a rental.
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    Jul 28, 2013 5:51 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    xrichx saidShame it's not RWD or AWD.


    Chevy SS on the way and V8 only.
    Manual or slushbox?


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    Jul 28, 2013 6:03 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidBest sedan, yet no one is buying them except as rental fleets. icon_lol.gif

    Best selling cars as of June 2013..
    http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/07/top-10-best-selling-cars-june-2013.html

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    I would love to see the C7 in person though.


    I would get none of those. lol. I need to see the c7 in person. Cause right now I aint feelin it.


    http://youtu.be/O1nlfMTL154

    http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/corvette-stingray/2014/road-test.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NjYGtxClsM
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    Jul 28, 2013 6:07 AM GMT
    LA has a strong car culture. We love cars. icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 28, 2013 6:15 AM GMT
    xrichx saidLA has a strong car culture. We love cars. icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif


    Provided that they are NOT American.
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    Jul 29, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
    xrichx saidUS auto makers should forget about the mid/full size segment. It's dead. Once the price of the car creeps past $30K, you enter the entry-level luxury car market. Why would anyone choose a loaded Impala, when they can get a base model Cadillac ATS for around the same price?


    Guess I'm a bit late to bump this but the full size segment is still there and besides someone has to built big fleet special cars. If GM doesn't then Ford will. Or Chrysler. Even imports are entering the fray. Hyundai for example now sends approx 17% of monthly sales to fleets and the same goes for Nissan.

    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130617/RETAIL01/306179996/nissan-hyundai-kia-fleet-sales-rise-in-may#axzz2aT7T0x7T

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    Dark blue = Impala

    The big pre-luxury sedan market is down but GM would be crazy to turn away from a product that still sells in excess of 150,000 units annually.
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    Jul 30, 2013 12:49 AM GMT
    GM unleashed

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    Jul 30, 2013 12:52 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidMalibu has been on the market for a while now. Not much interest from the public. So I have my doubts about the Impala. GM lost the mid/full size sedan market. Only thing keeping them afloat are crossovers, SUVs, and trucks. Sounds familiar, right? But I do see lots of Volts on the road over here in LA. I'm pretty sure GM loses money on each unit. I don't think they'll hit economies of scale for a few years on that car.


    I was behind a while malibu the other day and thought "why". Why would you pick this car. Its not particularly good. Its not innovative. Its not good to look at. In that segment there are so many choices that would be better. But someone chose this white, plain, uninvolved car. And (sans caddy/Vette) I thought....thats gm in a nut shell. Basically, that will do.


    If in West LA and it's American, it's a rental.


    I was near my house. It could have been a rental. But the fact they bothered to build it is what strikes me as dumb.