I'm Ready for Hillary

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    Jul 31, 2013 5:10 AM GMT
    Who's in?
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 31, 2013 5:20 AM GMT
    I'm waiting to see who the choices are first
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    Jul 31, 2013 5:24 AM GMT
    I may never vote again. They're all the same. icon_evil.gif
  • Webster666

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    Jul 31, 2013 6:56 AM GMT
    I like Hillary a lot, but I don't think she'll ever run for office again. I think she's had enough.
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    Jul 31, 2013 10:33 AM GMT
    She will run again, but she will be pissed if someone better comes along again and pulls the rug out from under her like Obama did.
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    Jul 31, 2013 10:37 AM GMT
    I wanted her to win the 2008 nomination.

    If she does run in 2016, she will be unassailable (from anyone, Democrat or Republican).

    If Kerry manages to pull off a Middle East peace agreement (very big 'if'), he might be in with a chance.
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    Jul 31, 2013 1:50 PM GMT
    I'm waiting for Jeb. Who's in?
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    Jul 31, 2013 1:51 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidI may never vote again. They're all the same. icon_evil.gif


    I almost agree. All it does is get you a jury duty summons.
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    Jul 31, 2013 4:43 PM GMT
    I was, but now I am not so sure. Can't there be anyone else in this country of 300 million people who doesn't have the last name Bush or Clinton that we could have for President in 2016?

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    The Enquirer reports the emergence of the tape could torpedo Hillary’s expected run for the White House.

    "The Clintons thought this sex tape was dead and buried," said one source. "If this tape and other material are surfacing now, imagine what else must be out there?"

    "This could be just the tip of theiceberg and the most embarrassing ‘bimbo eruption’ of all for the Clintons."


    /radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/07/bill-clinton-sex-tape-monica-lewinsky/>
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    Jul 31, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidI'm waiting for Jeb. Who's in?

    In what? More Bush quicksand?
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    Jul 31, 2013 4:47 PM GMT
    I supported Hillary the first time, only supported eventual nominee Obama as the no-brainer alternative to McCain and then Romney. I hope she makes it all the way this time, about time we had a woman as President, and anyone more competent than Hillary would be hard to find. Political realities are another matter, but in an ideal world, she'd be President.
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    Jul 31, 2013 4:54 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidI'm waiting for Jeb. Who's in?

    In what? More Bush quicksand?


    Another ad hominem attack from art_deco. Nothing new there.
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    Jul 31, 2013 4:58 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidI supported Hillary the first time, only supported eventual nominee Obama as the no-brainer alternative to McCain and then Romney. I hope she makes it all the way this time, about time we had a woman as President, and anyone more competent than Hillary would be hard to find. Political realities are another matter, but in an ideal world, she'd be President.


    I think Hillary might be fine and more conservative/pragmatic than the gentleman we have now. I'm not too concerned about this happening.
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    Jul 31, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
    GoNYMets2012 saidI was, but now I am not so sure. Can't there be anyone else in this country of 300 million people who doesn't have the last name Bush or Clinton that we could have for President in 2016?

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    The Enquirer reports the emergence of the tape could torpedo Hillary’s expected run for the White House.

    "The Clintons thought this sex tape was dead and buried," said one source. "If this tape and other material are surfacing now, imagine what else must be out there?"

    "This could be just the tip of theiceberg and the most embarrassing ‘bimbo eruption’ of all for the Clintons."


    /radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/07/bill-clinton-sex-tape-monica-lewinsky/>


    Over The Top. Someone using an Anthony Weiner pic for his profile is talking about a Clinton sex tape. Funny stuff.

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    Jul 31, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    ART_DECO said
    freedomisntfree saidI'm waiting for Jeb. Who's in?

    In what? More Bush quicksand?

    Another ad hominem attack from art_deco. Nothing new there.

    Not an ad hominem attack against you, lighten up. But a valid statement about the quicksand of the previous Bush Administrations. Contrary to Right Wing beliefs, ordinary voting peons like me are allowed under our Constitution to criticize our oligarchic "leaders" or else you'd be scratching marks on a detention cell wall in Gitmo yourself.

    The quicksand refers to Bush-directed economic ruin, unnecessary & wasteful wars, weakened US influence & prestige in the world, attacks on Constitutional rights & protections, the sad list goes on. And if that's an ad hominem attack, then God help us all in the US.
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    Jul 31, 2013 5:41 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    freedomisntfree said
    ART_DECO said
    freedomisntfree saidI'm waiting for Jeb. Who's in?

    In what? More Bush quicksand?

    Another ad hominem attack from art_deco. Nothing new there.

    Not an ad hominem attack against you, lighten up. But a valid statement about the quicksand of the previous Bush Administrations. Contrary to Right Wing beliefs, ordinary voting peons like me are allowed under our Constitution to criticize our oligarchic "leaders" or else you'd be scratching marks on a detention cell wall in Gitmo yourself.

    The quicksand refers to Bush-directed economic ruin, unnecessary & wasteful wars, weakened US influence & prestige in the world, attacks on Constitutional rights & protections, the sad list goes on. And if that's an ad hominem attack, then God help us all in the US.


    "Not an ad hominem attack against you, lighten up"

    Exactly how should that make a difference.

    "ordinary voting peons like me are allowed under our Constitution to criticize our oligarchic "leaders"

    And ordinary voting peons like me are allowed under our constitution to criticize the criticizers.
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    Jul 31, 2013 5:48 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    freedomisntfree said
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    freedomisntfree saidI'm waiting for Jeb. Who's in?

    In what? More Bush quicksand?

    Another ad hominem attack from art_deco. Nothing new there.

    Not an ad hominem attack against you, lighten up. But a valid statement about the quicksand of the previous Bush Administrations. Contrary to Right Wing beliefs, ordinary voting peons like me are allowed under our Constitution to criticize our oligarchic "leaders" or else you'd be scratching marks on a detention cell wall in Gitmo yourself.

    The quicksand refers to Bush-directed economic ruin, unnecessary & wasteful wars, weakened US influence & prestige in the world, attacks on Constitutional rights & protections, the sad list goes on. And if that's an ad hominem attack, then God help us all in the US.


    I was talking about Jeb Bush as George, under the 22nd amendment, can't run again.

    economy:

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/113012-635352-bush-tax-cuts-did-not-cause-deficits.htm?p=full

    WMD and wars:







    Patriot act, NSA and other related matters .... might want to talk to the current occupant of the Whitehouse who has been there for five years now.
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    Jul 31, 2013 5:53 PM GMT
    I guess what I'm saying is despite your seething, irrational *(I'm sure we'll disagree on that word) hatred for republicans, there's plenty of blame to go around.
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    Jul 31, 2013 6:10 PM GMT
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    Jul 31, 2013 6:13 PM GMT
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    WTF is this?
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    Jul 31, 2013 6:28 PM GMT
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    Do the comparison.

    http://www.realjock.com/GoNYMets2012


    There is a post above by a member using the pic of Anthony Weiner, in answer to the WTF question.
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    Jul 31, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
    NewMtler saidhttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRKtZ_tz71NIm4wmZSs9ahySKi6MH4x9XZmQ77VhHzxMpGMj50M1w

    Do the comparison.

    http://www.realjock.com/GoNYMets2012


    There is a post above by a member using the pic of Anthony Weiner, in answer to the WTF question.


    Already aware, but I didn't think Lump's post applied to that. That's why I was CORNfused.
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    Jul 31, 2013 7:43 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    ART_DECO saidI supported Hillary the first time, only supported eventual nominee Obama as the no-brainer alternative to McCain and then Romney. I hope she makes it all the way this time, about time we had a woman as President, and anyone more competent than Hillary would be hard to find. Political realities are another matter, but in an ideal world, she'd be President.


    I think Hillary might be fine and more conservative/pragmatic than the gentleman we have now. I'm not too concerned about this happening.


    Yeah sure. She's just as Alisnkyist as the clown we have right now.
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    Jul 31, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    ART_DECO said
    freedomisntfree said
    ART_DECO said
    freedomisntfree saidI'm waiting for Jeb. Who's in?

    In what? More Bush quicksand?

    Another ad hominem attack from art_deco. Nothing new there.

    Not an ad hominem attack against you, lighten up. But a valid statement about the quicksand of the previous Bush Administrations. Contrary to Right Wing beliefs, ordinary voting peons like me are allowed under our Constitution to criticize our oligarchic "leaders" or else you'd be scratching marks on a detention cell wall in Gitmo yourself.

    The quicksand refers to Bush-directed economic ruin, unnecessary & wasteful wars, weakened US influence & prestige in the world, attacks on Constitutional rights & protections, the sad list goes on. And if that's an ad hominem attack, then God help us all in the US.


    "Not an ad hominem attack against you, lighten up"

    Exactly how should that make a difference.

    "ordinary voting peons like me are allowed under our Constitution to criticize our oligarchic "leaders"

    And ordinary voting peons like me are allowed under our constitution to criticize the criticizers.


    The left can't stand it when you talk back...
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    Jul 31, 2013 7:47 PM GMT
    He was pointing out the use of "ad hominen" in this instance is incorrect.