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Nov 12, 2008 6:27 AM GMT
Yes! I removed the original post to force people to look further down into the thread.......EDIT: IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO RESPOND: PLEASE BE SURE YOU HAVE READ MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL POST.....THE INTENT OF THIS POST WAS NOT....REPEAT NOT , XENOPHOBIC! IT WAS A SHARP JAB OF SARCASTIC HYPERBOLE MADE IN AN EFFORT TO GET PEOPLE TO THINK OF SOMETHING MORE THAN PROP 8! IF YOU READ BEFORE YOU CONDEMN, YOU MIGHT JUST LEARN THAT... BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO DENY ANY OF YOU THE TIME HONORED GAY SKILL OF "FLAMING" IN LIEU OF READING AND THINKING.....Prop 8 lost, go to Connecticut....
And just so you know.....I speak 2 other languages fluently...besides english. My cultural awareness and appreciation is very much alive and well!
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Nov 12, 2008 8:59 AM GMT
I guess it's because of my interest in linguistics, but I love hearing people speak in different languages.
I once stayed with some friends for a week and a half, and his family was all turkish. The other people were russian. I learned so much and I loved it! haha.
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Nov 12, 2008 9:06 AM GMT
Get over yourself... unless they are refusing to speak English when talking ABOUT you, it doesn't matter. Speaking in English in public is only a courtesy when others should understand. I do something much more rude- I speak in German to classmates when i don't want others to catch on immediately. Not speaking English at all and living in the United States is one thing, speaking in your native tongue because you're having a conversation with another native is something completely different.
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Nov 12, 2008 9:13 AM GMT
How obtuse.
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Nov 12, 2008 9:27 AM GMT
Yo hablo espanol todo el tiempo. A veces yo lo hablo no mas por que yo quiero, simplemente por que yo puedo. Si, hay momentos que yo lo hablo por que soy diciendo algo personal o es un secreto. No se preocupe, no estamos hablondo mal de uste! 
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Nov 12, 2008 10:09 AM GMT
Funny most gay people I hear don't speak English. They sound like some kind of valley girl with too much nasal. Far from English. And disgusting.
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Nov 12, 2008 10:59 AM GMT
Cuidarse, tu este hacer líneas en su cara 
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Nov 12, 2008 11:23 AM GMT
It isn't very nice when people want to be accepted as they are, and as they want to be (as is the case with all of us who have made enormous weight transitions) and then don't wish to extend that same understanding to people who live in their own culture.
In the eight years I lived in Italy I always spoke English in public and private to members of my own family or other people who spoke English.
I suppose somewhere along the line someone or another got irritated, though no one ever said anything to me.
While I can speak and write Italian well enough, it isn't my native tongue and it is just more comfortable and natural for me to speak English with certain people.
Fortunately, intolerance of other cultures isn't pervasive or it would be alot less fun being an American abroad.
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Nov 12, 2008 11:26 AM GMT
i would suggest using an iPod or some other personal music device so you won't have to listen to others speak while you workout. Also you get to listen to the tunes you wanna hear.
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Nov 12, 2008 11:44 AM GMT
There are dictators who have outlawed publicly speaking a language other than the official national language. Franco in particular outlawed the speaking of Catalan and Basque.
I love hearing languages and while I speak a few myself if I run into a fellow native anglophone I would speak English unless we are in the company of someone who does not. Speaking French or Spanish to another American has that feeling of being in the class room. We don't learn that much from each other either because all of us will make mistakes at times and the other may or may not know it is a mistake.
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Nov 12, 2008 12:21 PM GMT
It's not the language they're speaking, it's the volume their speaking in. I hear people speaking in English that are obviously loud and it's all about seeking attention.
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Nov 12, 2008 12:23 PM GMT
jakebenson saidFunny most gay people I hear don't speak English. They sound like some kind of valley girl with too much nasal. Far from English. And disgusting. LMAO
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Nov 12, 2008 12:23 PM GMT
You can learn tolerance and multiculturalism from your neighbors the canadians. They certainly don't think like you. I think it's great if someone sticks to their cultures and language is part of their culture. If I go on vacations to the US I'm going to speak spanish with my family obviously, but I'll talk to strangers and american-friends-and-family in english. You shouldn't feel eft out, you should be happy to see a great variety of cultures all interacting peacefully. Your thinking is very nazi like. I don't want to offend you, but you did offend me. 
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Nov 12, 2008 12:35 PM GMT
Dude, I think you mean speak *american*.
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Nov 12, 2008 12:49 PM GMT
After moving to a different country and not being able to speak the language, I will no longer feel the same way this person does, ever again. Not that I did all that much before, but I have thought it to myself at some point in my life.
However, I think it depends on the country when it comes to if they judge like Americans do when it comes to language. Spanish people do not always appreciate English being spoken and I have had people say, more than once, "Tu estas en espana, hablas espanol", just like Americans say "you are in Amercia, speak English".
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Nov 12, 2008 1:51 PM GMT
Il n'y a pas de politesse ŕ l'Ohio? Dommage....pour vous.
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Nov 12, 2008 1:52 PM GMT
We have a major university and a huge medical center within a couple of miles of my gym, which means that there is a lot of diversity, here. That's a good thing, and I don't mind when people speak other languages in the gym. It does seem, though, like many of them speak very loudly. Regardless of the language, everyone should use an "inside voice" at the gym. Loud and boisterous conversations in the gym are distracting.
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Nov 12, 2008 2:03 PM GMT
I like hearing people speak in other languages. The loudness may be the problem, but no worse than listening to Americans talk/scream on their damn cell phones at the gym. These are the biggest nuisance for me. I wish these things would be banned in gyms, restaurants and everywhere in public places with others can hear unwanted silly conversations.
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Nov 12, 2008 2:06 PM GMT
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Nov 12, 2008 2:28 PM GMT
何か失礼な話しだね〜。 聞きたくなかったら、iPodなどを使って。 さもなければ我慢して。
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Nov 12, 2008 2:29 PM GMT
I'm in complete agreement, I'll go as far as to say that everyone should speak English. Especially the French! 
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Nov 12, 2008 2:30 PM GMT
Why are you listening to their damn conversations anyways. Who cares...English, Spanish, Japanese, German, etc...YOU'RE STILL BEING NOSY. If you want to be so damn nosy maybe you should learn a second language. With the noise issue...wouldn't it be just as loud and obnoxious in English? Annoying and rude is present in any language. Why would a foreign language make it more annoying than in English?
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Nov 12, 2008 2:33 PM GMT
What a douche-baggy way to start a thread. Get over yourself.
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Nov 12, 2008 2:37 PM GMT
I sometimes go to a gym (for the pool) in an neighborhood with far more Spanish speakers than you hear generally in Manhattan. And some of the men there are definitely loud and do not speak much English between themselves in the locker room. Doesn't bother me much, but the radio on a Spanish station that the locker room attendant plays feels a bit too atmospheric for me at times! It's mostly guys in their 50s and 60s who keep up this "post soccer game" level of congeniality in the lockers, though. Maybe they're all buddies.
I have some Spanish skills, can understand some of what I hear, and the only thing that bugs me is when "maricon" pops up in the chatter.
On the other hand, another gym in the chain I go to has a fairly good gay clientele (not the gayest in NYC, by any means) and though the guys there keep the chatter on a reasonably "manly" level, never letting things feel like backstage at a Broadway musical, I'm sure that some of the other members occasionally wonder if these 'mos are speaking English!
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Nov 12, 2008 2:37 PM GMT
How could they plot their terrorist attack at the gym if they're talking in English? 
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