PROTEST IN LOS ANGELES TONIGHT (WEDNESDAY 11/12)... WITH A BIG SURPRISE!!!

  • daveza

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    Nov 12, 2008 10:41 AM GMT
    THERE IS A PROTEST TONIGHT AT 5PM AT THE MORMON TEMPLE IN SANTA MONICA. THIS PROTEST WILL BE DIFFERENT. LET'S JUST SAY... IT'S GOING TO BE.... A LITTLE MORE COLORFUL WITH A NICE SURPRISE icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

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    CAN YOU GUESS WHAT THE SURPRISE WILL BE??

    Here's my favorite video from one of the protests... More of these at http://www.imdavevalk.blogspot.com



    PLEASE HELP GET OUT THE WORD ABOUT THIS EVENT BY TEXTING AND EMAILING EVERYONE WHO CAN BE THERE!!!! 5PM TONIGHT AT THE MORMON TEMPLE!!
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 12, 2008 3:46 PM GMT
    the only problem is that holding up rush hour traffic on the westside is not going to win us many friends amongst the str8ts trying to get home via already trying surface streets... and we NEED these people in order to win this fight
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 12, 2008 3:47 PM GMT
    FYI, the mormon church is not IN santa monica, it is ON santa monica (blvd) in westwood.
  • swimbikerun

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    Nov 12, 2008 3:48 PM GMT
    Hunter9 saidthe only problem is that holding up rush hour traffic on the westside is not going to win us many friends amongst the str8ts trying to get home via already trying surface streets... and we NEED these people in order to win this fight
    Lead, follow or get out of the way!
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 12, 2008 4:10 PM GMT
    swimbikerun said
    Hunter9 saidthe only problem is that holding up rush hour traffic on the westside is not going to win us many friends amongst the str8ts trying to get home via already trying surface streets... and we NEED these people in order to win this fight
    Lead, follow or get out of the way!


    nice slogan... not so realistic though... especially when they can't "get out of the way" since they are trapped on the boulevard amongst police and protesters.

    im not saying not to protest. we should protest. we have to protest. but if we want to win supporters among those who aren't (a whopping 52% of them) we should be aware of the effects of our actions.
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    Nov 12, 2008 4:14 PM GMT
    I think it'd be cool, if during the protests, some of the protesters volunteered to direct traffic. Additionally, some enterprising gay protesters could take advantage of the slow traffic and get in some squeegee coinage. I'm gonna bring a bucket of water and a squeegee with me tonight and make a little money.
  • swimbikerun

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    Nov 12, 2008 4:22 PM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    swimbikerun said
    Hunter9 saidthe only problem is that holding up rush hour traffic on the westside is not going to win us many friends amongst the str8ts trying to get home via already trying surface streets... and we NEED these people in order to win this fight
    Lead, follow or get out of the way!


    nice slogan... not so realistic though... especially when they can't "get out of the way" since they are trapped on the boulevard amongst police and protesters.

    im not saying not to protest. we should protest. we have to protest. but if we want to win supporters among those who aren't (a whopping 52% of them) we should be aware of the effects of our actions.

    This is designed to interfere with peoples' daily routines. That's the point. To make an impact. To raise awareness that this is a critical civil rights issue. It's designed to make people uncomfortable. That's what activism is. That's what a democratic movement is.
    And it is a realistic slogan and, with all due respect Hunter, it was directed at you.
  • EricLA

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    Nov 12, 2008 5:58 PM GMT
    Hunter9 saidthe only problem is that holding up rush hour traffic on the westside is not going to win us many friends amongst the str8ts trying to get home via already trying surface streets... and we NEED these people in order to win this fight


    I live just three blocks from the Mormon Temple and I think most people have been understanding. Yes, there was an altercation during last Thursday's protest their, but there was a small spontaneous one much of the day on Saturday. Sure, traffic wasn't blocked, but there were No on 8 protesters on both sides of Santa Monica Blvd. and they received a lot of supportive honks for passersby.
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    Nov 12, 2008 6:05 PM GMT
    I also heard from several straight classmates at UCLA who had joined up with the protest at the mormon temple last week when they heard about it. I just about fell over when they told me.
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    Nov 12, 2008 6:30 PM GMT
    Tell us what the surprise is already! Jeez!!!
  • daveza

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    Nov 12, 2008 7:49 PM GMT
    The surprise should be pretty cool... that's all I have to say...

    Here is some crazy stuff I witnessed...



    And to those of you who think that protesting is not a good idea, what other forms of civil disobedience would you suggest? Any other ways to make REAL CHANGE besides sitting at your computer? And while I'm out there losing my voice and hauling the 10 miles each day, what are YOU doing to stand up for YOUR rights?

    Anyone else want to guess the surprise?? Any ideas?? icon_biggrin.gif
  • EricLA

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    Nov 12, 2008 7:54 PM GMT
    Does it involve celebrity attendance? Drew Barrymore and James Franco attended the Silverlake protest. Whoopi Goldberg is attending the one in NYC today. Is Brangelina showing up? At one point they said they weren't marrying until all Americans could. The Governator and Maria Shriver live in Brentwood. I doubt Schwarzenegger would come, but I could see Maria maybe making an appearance.
  • metta

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    Nov 12, 2008 8:05 PM GMT
    Ellen said on her show that she wished that she could protest while she was filming and there was protesting going on. That may be a possibility. ???


    That second clip is exactly why I'm thinking about going to the Pasadena one over the LA one. I think that the LA one is going to be huge. I have not decided which one yet but I'm leaning Pasadena because of things like that.
  • vindog

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    Nov 12, 2008 8:06 PM GMT
    SURPRISE?


    Like...



    free CORN NUTS?
  • metta

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    Nov 13, 2008 2:07 AM GMT
    So what happened?
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    Nov 13, 2008 2:17 AM GMT
    WHATS THE FUCKING SURPRISE!!icon_biggrin.gif
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 13, 2008 3:03 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]daveZA said

    And to those of you who think that protesting is not a good idea, what other forms of civil disobedience would you suggest? Any other ways to make REAL CHANGE besides sitting at your computer? And while I'm out there losing my voice and hauling the 10 miles each day, what are YOU doing to stand up for YOUR rights?

    Anyone else want to guess the surprise?? Any ideas?? [/quote]

    i dont have a problem with protesting, but i think there needs to be a little bit more discretion in where and how we protest.

    first off, protesting is not "civil disobedience". it is a protected right in the constitution. but just because you CAN protest anywhere and everywhere, doesn't mean you SHOULD. why is the mormon church being targeted AGAIN? yes, we all know they are hateful bigots and financed most of the Yes campaign, but we are going to end up looking awfully petty and near-sighted if we just keep taking our anger our on the mormons. they were not 52% of the CA population. we need to get more people on our side. this is not helping us reach this objective.

    and again, the grid-lock traffic is likely to piss off plenty of people. im guessing there are quite a lot of straight No-voters, who simply voted no because they just didn't care that much either way and realized (rightfully) that it is not going to have any affect on their life. however, if we end up pissing these people off by appearing inconsiderate, than we may lose some of the 48% that we already have.

    look, i am supportive of this fight. i was at the church last thursday and other protests throughout the week. i donated money to the No side before the election and i will participate in saturday's nation wide protest, but we do have to keep in mind the side-effects of our actions and think about what we are trying to accomplish.
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    Nov 13, 2008 3:07 AM GMT
    ah, angry riots and chaos...i love it...
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 13, 2008 3:20 AM GMT
    msw1 saidah, angry riots and chaos...i love it...


    not gonna win us supporters
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    Nov 13, 2008 3:27 AM GMT
    whats the surprise. helloooooooicon_lol.gif
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    Nov 13, 2008 3:31 AM GMT
    Civil disobedience is not a bad thing. For god's sake, these people have been given enough opportunity to stop discriminating. If they want to lose some civil peace or property before they wise up ...so be it!

    Remember, nobody paid much attention to Blacks until some cities started burning....when people's property is on the line, they suddenly get all sorts of tolerant.

    If it costs them nothing....then fuck yeah they will go on discriminating.
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    Nov 13, 2008 3:33 AM GMT
    Who exactly are these mythic supporters you and others so desperately want to win over?
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 13, 2008 3:52 AM GMT
    Caslon7000 saidCivil disobedience is not a bad thing. For god's sake, these people have been given enough opportunity to stop discriminating. If they want to lose some civil peace or property before they wise up ...so be it!

    Remember, nobody paid much attention to Blacks until some cities started burning....when people's property is on the line, they suddenly get all sorts of tolerant.

    If it costs them nothing....then fuck yeah they will go on discriminating.


    you have obviously never been to LA's west side. these are the people on our side. why would we piss them off?
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    Nov 13, 2008 3:55 AM GMT
    yeah well too bad, sick of being nice and trying to make them like us, to think about giving us some rights. best be on good behavior so they will consider us?...i say fuck that!
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 13, 2008 3:59 AM GMT
    msw1 saidyeah well too bad, sick of being nice and trying to make them like us, to think about giving us some rights. best be on good behavior so they will consider us?...i say fuck that!


    i only need to quote from my previous post:

    "you have obviously never been to LA's west side. these are the people on OUR SIDE. why would we piss them off?"