GERMS ON GROCERY CARTS: I Think I'm Going to be Sick!

  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 12, 2008 1:46 PM GMT
    There was a study done on the "Today Show" on 11/12/08 on the germs in your typical grocery cart in several locations around the country. Ecoli was evident, the handles were gross. I will either wipe down the cart handles or use gloves when I use mine from now on (which would look weird).

    I heard how bad the gym can be, this is even worse they say... worse than public bathrooms.........but not as bad as public transit.

    Yuck!
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    Nov 12, 2008 1:59 PM GMT


    Well, how about Isogel hand sanitizer; the best for this. Name brand of choice is Purell. Aloe vera, vitamin E, your choice. Kills on contact, and if you apply it just before handling the cart, your hands will kill any germs they touch.

    Funny that you'd mention the Gym. I used to work out at one years ago, but dropped it when I caught a good dose of measles... Never thought of the gym until I tried to return after recovering.
    Surprise, the gym was closed by the health department, due to a measles outbreak! Septic conditions among other things, said the report. My 300 dollar membership (good money in the early 80s) went along with it. They never re-opened.
  • Koaa2

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    Nov 12, 2008 2:07 PM GMT
    If I pick a cart, I try to find one that children can't sit in, holes for their legs, because there is a less chance that a shitty/wet diaper was in them.

    MRSA is becoming a real problem at the gyms, would be wise to speak up and make sure they are cleaning the equipment on a regular basis. Also a towel is necessary, to wipe down, and to minimize skin contact with the surfaces. Another good idea is to change you towel, say if your go from weights to cardio.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 12, 2008 2:19 PM GMT
    Koaa2 said

    MRSA is becoming a real problem at the gyms, would be wise to speak up and make sure they are cleaning the equipment on a regular basis. Also a towel is necessary, to wipe down, and to minimize skin contact with the surfaces. Another good idea is to change you towel, say if your go from weights to cardio.


    Wow, I appreciate that information. I'm one of those people who always wipe down the equipment prior to my use and after. I'm amazed at the number who never do anything.
  • Timbales

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    Nov 12, 2008 2:35 PM GMT
    My grocery store has sanitizing wipes right there at the cart pick-up.
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    Nov 12, 2008 4:22 PM GMT
    What these things never tell you is that although these bacteria are present (which they are practically EVERYWHERE), is if there are enough of them to cause disease. Anything that's scientific will tell you the c.f.u.'s of a sample (colony forming units). It's pretty simple ... the higher the cfu, the higher the concentration of bacteria, the more likely it is to cause disease.

    I could go home to your kitchen counter, and unless you've scrubbed it down with bleach in the last 24 hours, I could find E.coli, Staph aureus, Salmonella, maybe some strep ... but that doesn't mean they're concentrated enough to make you sick (or that they're even the pathogenic forms of those bacteria).

    Message: take anything from a talk show with a grain of salt. Those people live on sensationalism.
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    Nov 12, 2008 4:28 PM GMT
    Don't most grocery stores now have that giant tube of disposable wipes right next to the carts? I never grab a cart without one of those wipes.
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    Nov 12, 2008 4:36 PM GMT
    Have any of you gotten sick from a grocery cart before?

    I have been doing my own grocery shopping for decades now and I dont know of any diseases that I have caught from a shopping cart.

    Now it is true that I try to use a cart that hasnt been used recently to get the environment a chance to kill off some the germs from the last user....I also grab door handles by areas not used by most people...(I tell by the wear on the handle)

    ....I also wash my hands when I get home from being out in stores
  • Delivis

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    Nov 12, 2008 4:40 PM GMT
    I will lick the grocery cart handles next time when i go to the store. Good for the immune system, it needs practice and it *really* likes killing germs, but only the bad kinds.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 12, 2008 4:56 PM GMT
    Delivis saidI will lick the grocery cart handles next time when i go to the store. Good for the immune system, it needs practice and it *really* likes killing germs, but only the bad kinds.


    I'd like to see you do that, but do it in the store so people can stare at you........LOL
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    Nov 12, 2008 5:11 PM GMT
    zzzz

    Listen if you "self" check out, your touching the same screen that has had all the same hands all over it. You're probably handling fruit that has been touched again and again and again, the wine bottle, the can goods, the soft drinks... icon_eek.gif

    Armagedon I tell ya!! icon_biggrin.gif

    You're better off wearing playtex gloves everywhere (than tryin to keep up with wipes) or just keep your hands out of you mouth until you've washed em.

    This reminds of a guy (back in the 80's) that told me the reason he brings a straw in restaraunts was to not get AIDS... I asked if he brought his own silverware as well since they're cleaned much the same way?
    I thought he was going to cry. LOL

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    Nov 12, 2008 5:26 PM GMT
    My guess is that after that segment they paused for an ad for Lysol Sanitzing Wipes or something similar.

    You get what you pay for when you watch the "free" corporate-funded media.

    The world is a dirty place. Good thing our bodies are well equipped to deal with that. But those who starve themselves, don't exercise, sleep less than they should, keep a steady diet of empty carbs, or maintain a high stress level are the ones who cannot handle even the lowest level of germs. Their immune systems are too suppressed.
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    Nov 12, 2008 5:55 PM GMT
    what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

    i use a wipe on a grocery cart when the handle is greasy/slimy/icky etc. otherwise i don't. i use public keyboards sometimes. i grab door handles. i rinse off fruit quickly... sometimes. sometimes i just give it a quick wipe to get the dust off then gobble away.

    i'm outdoors a lot, in the grass, dirt, etc. i get lots of cuts and scratches from branches, rocks, screws, nails, sharp edges on my car body, etc.

    i'm the most healthy person my doc has seen all year. _if_ i get sick when others around me do, it is mild and i recover very fast.

    i do however put paper down on a toilet and wash my hands thoroughly as well as use a paper towel on the bathroom door for public restrooms. i have no desire to exercise my immune system with STDs that are transmissible on such surfaces.

    and, the thought of some unwashed hand wiping some nasty ass or holding a nasty penis grabbing the door prior to me is quite a turnoff.
  • art_smass

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    Nov 12, 2008 6:03 PM GMT
    I'm with Rugger on this one. As long as I don't put too much thought into it, it really doesn't bother me. I just don't stick my fingers into my eyes and mouth a lot, and I don't lick the grocery cart, so it's really not a big deal.
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    Nov 12, 2008 6:36 PM GMT

    You can take precautions, but you will look weird. For the longest time, I took a spray bottle filled with Mr.Clean and a washcloth to school to wipe my desk clean, people teased me, but I never got sick. I've relaxed about it because although I rarely got sick, when I did, it was extra disruptive. Basically, your body has taken proper care of fighting off germs without you being super anal. It's not like you are going to get extra healthy if you wear gloves in the grocery store, all you'll manage to do is look like sort of a douche. Just wash your hands before you eat and after you use the can, properly clean your produce and handle your meat correctly, and you should be fine.
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    Nov 12, 2008 7:36 PM GMT
    I put my faith in 3 billion years of immune system evolution. It's not perfect but it's stood the test of time.

    It's a slipperly slope, you start sanitizing carts, gym equipment, wearing gloves, carrying hand sanitizer and before you know it your howard hughes living in a bubble. One thing I can't stand is when someone I know well asks for a drink from my bottle and wipes it down with their shirt. I don't like the implication I'm germ ridden, you're a moron if you think a shirt will sanitize something and I don't appreciate you shirt germs on my bottle.

    It's particularly shown that kids exposed to allergens such as those who live with a dog grow up into healthier adults.

    That said

    -I will always wash my hands after using a bathroom and not just wet them and wipe them on the seat of my pants, I don't understand people who bother to do that.

    -My kids will receive all their vaccinations, yes statistically if your the only one not vaccinated in a society where >99% of the population is you will have an health advantage but that disappears if a significant portion of the population aren't vaccinated

    - Food preparation will always be meticulously clean, not because I pose a threat to my self but it's what I would expect of others if I was going to eat something they prepared
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    Nov 12, 2008 8:03 PM GMT
    Any gay man who thinks they are going to catch germs from a shopping cart should probably reconsider the act of licking another guys ass.
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    Nov 12, 2008 8:08 PM GMT
    XRuggerATX saidAny gay man who thinks they are going to catch germs from a shopping cart should probably reconsider the act of licking another guys ass.



    XRuggerATX saidAny gay man who thinks they are going to catch germs from a shopping cart should probably reconsider the act of licking another guys ass.



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    Wash your hands, hippie!
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    Nov 12, 2008 8:09 PM GMT
    How neurotic. There's germs on just about every public surface, if not all. Hospitals are full of germs too. Working as a nurse, I don't always wear cloves. I just wash my hands.

    Some women not long ago was bleeding from a fall, My first reaction was to put out my hand to stop it from hitting the flood. Having sex can be more deadly.
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    Nov 12, 2008 8:12 PM GMT
    Koaa2 saidIf I pick a cart, I try to find one that children can't sit in, holes for their legs, because there is a less chance that a shitty/wet diaper was in them.

    MRSA is becoming a real problem at the gyms, would be wise to speak up and make sure they are cleaning the equipment on a regular basis. Also a towel is necessary, to wipe down, and to minimize skin contact with the surfaces. Another good idea is to change you towel, say if your go from weights to cardio.


    Suppose that depends on where you live, as MRSA is more of a community problem, that is more prevalent in some communities than others.
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    Nov 12, 2008 8:34 PM GMT
    XRuggerATX saidAny gay man who thinks they are going to catch germs from a shopping cart should probably reconsider the act of licking another guys ass.


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    or use a Clorox wipe first


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    Nov 12, 2008 8:52 PM GMT
    I have been practicing a reduced paranoia about such things. Two years ago you couldn't get me to touch the grocery cart without a wipedown first. But it is beyond the pale. Just don't put your hands in your mouth and wash anything before you eat it.

    (I still won't touch the doorknobs inside public restrooms. Too many people DO NOT wash their hands after a shit. And while yes there is fecal matter all around same as the e coli and others, I can't see it! Someone who craps and doesn't wash could very well be leaving actual poo on the door, yuck.)
  • Koaa2

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    Nov 12, 2008 9:13 PM GMT
    Pattison said
    Koaa2 saidIf I pick a cart, I try to find one that children can't sit in, holes for their legs, because there is a less chance that a shitty/wet diaper was in them.

    MRSA is becoming a real problem at the gyms, would be wise to speak up and make sure they are cleaning the equipment on a regular basis. Also a towel is necessary, to wipe down, and to minimize skin contact with the surfaces. Another good idea is to change you towel, say if your go from weights to cardio.


    Suppose that depends on where you live, as MRSA is more of a community problem, that is more prevalent in some communities than others.



    MRSA infections used to be mostly hospital acquired. This is no longer the case as the numbers for community acquired are rising.. No community is exempt from this potential problem.
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    Nov 12, 2008 9:14 PM GMT
    Most grocery stores (all that I go to atleast) have the sani-wipes at the entrance these days. I always wipe down the handles down. I also bring clorox wipes in my car anywhere I go - it's helpful.
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    Nov 12, 2008 9:20 PM GMT
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