Russia Promises Prison Time for Foreignors Who Violate Anti-Gay Law During Olympics

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    Aug 05, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    Russia promises to enforce a new law cracking down on gay rights activism when it hosts international athletes and fans during the 2014 Olympics in Sochi, the country’s sports minister said Thursday, appearing to contradict assurances to the contrary from the International Olympic Committee.

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    Russia’s contentious law was signed by President Vladimir Putin in late June, imposing fines on individuals accused of spreading “propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations” to minors, and even proposing penalties for those who express these views online or in the news media. Gay pride rallies also are banned.

    “An athlete of nontraditional sexual orientation isn’t banned from coming to Sochi,” Vitaly Mutko said in an interview with R-Sport, the sports newswire of state news agency RIA Novosti. “But if he goes out into the streets and starts to propagandize, then of course he will be held accountable.”

    Mutko emphasized that the law wasn’t designed to punish anyone for being gay or lesbian. But like the Russian lawmakers who authored the bill, Mutko said athletes would be punished only for propaganda, a word that remains ambiguous under the new law.

    “The corresponding law doesn’t forbid non-traditional orientation, but other things: propaganda, involvement of minors and the youth.”

    The law specifies punishment for foreign citizens, to include fines of up to 100,000 rubles ($3,000), time in prison for up to 15 days, deportation and denial of reentry into Russia. Four Dutch citizens working on a documentary film in the northern Russian town of Murmansk were the first foreigners to be detained under the new law, although their case did not make it to court, according to RIA Novosti.
    While activists and organizations supportive of gay rights have called for a ban on Russian-made products like Stolichnaya vodka in bars across North America, they have yet to find a unified response to the Sochi games.

    Instead of a boycott of the Olympics, athletes have made individual gestures and called for gestures of protest, such as a pride parade, to be held during the games.

    The IOC said last week that it had received assurances “from the highest level of government in Russia that the legislation will not affect those attending or taking part in the games.” It pledged to ensure there would be no discrimination against athletes, officials, spectators and the media in Sochi.
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    Aug 05, 2013 3:15 AM GMT
    Russia is becoming more and more aggressive,
    I wonder why the Olympics committee didn't respond to this? What hidden agendas or politics going between them?

    It's very rude, they're openly displaying racist behavior & obsessed to punish LGBT.

    We should not encourage this at all...but how? is the question we need to ask ourselves.

    Perhaps someone should create a thread about this and gather all possible ideas and suggestions...but, who's gonna apply it?
    very sad, very very sad :-(
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    Aug 05, 2013 3:50 AM GMT
    Other members here have argued that we should not disappoint our athletes who have trained so hard to get there, but I'm at the point now where I think taking a stand against this is more important.
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    Aug 05, 2013 3:54 AM GMT
    There are plenty of other countries that are willing to host the Winter Olympics....

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    Aug 05, 2013 4:16 AM GMT
    Fivealive saidThere are plenty of other countries that are willing to host the Winter Olympics....



    Yes, but at this late in the game?
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    Aug 05, 2013 4:54 AM GMT
    Maybe we should start boycotting their gay porn icon_mad.gif
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:20 AM GMT
    Russians would be russians ... nuff said
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:33 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Fivealive saidThere are plenty of other countries that are willing to host the Winter Olympics....



    Yes, but at this late in the game?


    I read where there are several countries that already have the facilities to host. Whilst not on the scale of what Russia is no doubt building.
    I think countries need to re-think there positions. Are they willing to put their people at risk? The Russians are militant enough about this, is hugging your fellow team mate gonna be construed at gay propaganda?

    on the lighter side, to show what a PUTZ Putin is, i read that he is not at all pleased with his new ZIL limo... and is now taking design graduates offerings for possible consideration. what a putz !! LOL.
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    Aug 05, 2013 7:24 AM GMT
    all i am saying is this is total bullshit. who the hell r they to act like that. i would be in prison for fucking shit up when they tried to arrest me. cop or not u touch me u r broken or sleeping period. if i were the other nations i would be like nope sorry BOYCOTT.
  • hebrewman

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    Aug 05, 2013 8:03 AM GMT
    judging by his actions thus far, do you really think putin gives a rats ass what the USA or the rest of the world think?
    nope. not at all.
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    Aug 05, 2013 12:29 PM GMT
    HEBREWMAN saidjudging by his actions thus far, do you really think putin gives a rats ass what the USA or the rest of the world think?
    nope. not at all.


    What other countries think, no; but their pockets, yes. I'm damn sure Putin has his eyes on the money that will be spent in Russia during the games.
  • WhoDey

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    Aug 05, 2013 12:45 PM GMT
    This articles says otherwise...

    "Russian 'anti-gay propaganda law' won't be enforced at Sochi 2014 Olympics"

    http://rt.com/news/russia-olympics-gay-law-948/

    “The Olympics is a major international event. Our task is to be as politically correct and tolerant as we can be. That’s why we made the decision not to raise this issue during the Games,” Interfax news agency cites said Igor Ananskikh, the head of the Russian Duma Committee on physical training, sports and youth, as saying."
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    Aug 05, 2013 2:54 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Fivealive saidThere are plenty of other countries that are willing to host the Winter Olympics....



    Yes, but at this late in the game?


    Olympics have been cancelled in the past.

    I would much rather see all of the athletes boycott the games. You can't have games with no athletes.
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    Aug 05, 2013 3:07 PM GMT
    I hear that around the end of his life, de Coubertin thought the games were getting out of hand and should be scaled down.

    It does seem as though the games are sometimes used as a pretext to up the ante on repression with "temporary" measures that never actually expire...

    Perhaps this is just one more reason to move our attention away from massively broadcasted displays of high-end athleticism and towards a healthier, less vicarious way of getting involved in sports.
  • Fable

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    Aug 05, 2013 3:07 PM GMT
    I know most of the Soho has started boycotting all russian products (vodka etc). I'm following suit.
  • WhoDey

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    Aug 05, 2013 3:23 PM GMT
    fable saidI know most of the Soho has started boycotting all russian products (vodka etc). I'm following suit.


    I think that backfired when we found out Stoli is a very pro-gay company
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    Aug 05, 2013 3:39 PM GMT
    I don't think we should boycott. Get every athlete to wear rainbow pins when marching into the stadium under their country's flag and when receiving a medal.

    What would the Russians do?
  • GraphicGuy

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    Aug 05, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
    Who says if Gay or Gay supportive athletes that go there they will even get to compete, they can be face arrest getting off the plane for being in any way perceived as pro gay. I certainly would not trust the Russian justice system for a quick release either.



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    Aug 05, 2013 4:03 PM GMT
    WhoDey saidThis articles says otherwise...

    "Russian 'anti-gay propaganda law' won't be enforced at Sochi 2014 Olympics"

    http://rt.com/news/russia-olympics-gay-law-948/

    “The Olympics is a major international event. Our task is to be as politically correct and tolerant as we can be. That’s why we made the decision not to raise this issue during the Games,” Interfax news agency cites said Igor Ananskikh, the head of the Russian Duma Committee on physical training, sports and youth, as saying."



    I don't believe this for a second. Mark my word.....there will be altercations. Anyone who thinks otherwise does not know much about Russian "culture." The mere fact that the rest of the world is upset about this will be enough to incite violence in the homophobic Russian mentality.
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    Aug 05, 2013 4:15 PM GMT
    I Dnt know what worse, boycotting the games all together and living the Russian gay communities stranded or showing face, thus supporting them in this time of great need. This is a catch 22 situation. Dnt know which is a right thing to do.hmmmmmm *thinking what would JEsus do*
  • Latenight30

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    Aug 05, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
    yet our country has sat silent and isn't doing anything, but we will jump into a fight that has been going on for 1,000 years for the sake of our safety? hummm
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    Aug 05, 2013 4:46 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidOther members here have argued that we should not disappoint our athletes who have trained so hard to get there, but I'm at the point now where I think taking a stand against this is more important.

    Cjaz also voted for Romney.
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
    Maybe the IOC should issue a tough warning.

    If any spectator, official, or athlete is arrested or detained under this law, ALL MEDALS awarded to Russian athletes will be stripped from them.

    If Russia wants to victimize the LGBT community at the Olympics, then their athletes also become victims.

    But the IOC is more about money than athletics and integrity, so this would never happen.
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:30 PM GMT
    Well half the Olympic athletes better stay home then..
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:34 PM GMT
    I was looking forward to seeing this guy skate....

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