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    Aug 05, 2013 4:56 AM GMT
    So I was just looking around my favorite clothing store (Hollister) and suddenly a lady not sure if was the manager asked me to work on there.

    It felt nice because of what I have heard about the "policy" that those stores have in matters of hiring people (Don't judge me!) but it got me thinking for a little bit what can others say or debate against the white and black sides of working for a (as many could call) "superficial store"

    So what do you guys have to say?

    Are you the one who would like to work in there? why?
    Are you the one who has plenty of negative thoughts about that store? why?

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    Aug 05, 2013 5:06 AM GMT
    Read this: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3184400

    It will answer your first question.
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
    george1818 saidSo I was just looking around my favorite clothing store (Hollister) and suddenly a lady not sure if was the manager asked me to work on there.

    It felt nice because of what I have heard about the "policy" that those stores have in matters of hiring people (Don't judge me!) but it got me thinking for a little bit what can others say or debate against the white and black sides of working for a (as many could call) "superficial store"

    So what do you guys have to say?

    Are you the one who would like to work in there? why?
    Are you the one who has plenty of negative thoughts about that store? why?



    Dosent bother me one bit
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:08 AM GMT
    Would I like to work there ? No...Would I if I was 18 and needed income?...Fuck Yes..
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:09 AM GMT
    I've never put that trash on my body and never will. Only very very stupid people will pay to be a random corporation's billboard. What kind of person would wear a company name across their chest and pay to do so?
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:10 AM GMT
    simonneversaid saidmost definitely wouldn't work there or wear their clothes, period. never have, never will. never was interested in their line of clothing. they look basic, boring and ugly. the negative things that have come out about them just gives me more of a reason not to fuck with them.


    It's ok that you don't wear their clothes, you have your reasons, but I do like those clothes and they are not boring, much less ugly, everyone has distinct likes, I can't just tell that something sucks just because I don't like it
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:11 AM GMT
    Erik101 saidRead this: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3184400

    It will answer your first question.


    I read this some time ago, that's why I posted this, to see actually what would people say about SERIOUSLY working in there
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:13 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidI've never put that trash on my body and never will. Only very very stupid people will pay to be a random corporation's billboard. What kind of person would wear a company name across their chest and pay to do so?


    First of, I'm not stupid, I wear A LOT of those clothes, com'on do we have to degrade people just because of that, don't really think so.

    And to make it clear, I DON'T wear those clothes because of the little bird that I'll get on my chest, I wear it because I like the styles and fitting of those clothes, I would buy them if they didn't have the little bird in them.

    People, don't do generalizations! not everyone in this world is the same, that's what makes it nice
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    And your opinion is well fitted on this thread, that's why I created it, I knew that many dudes in here hated those stores, and was expecting comments against my thoughts. Your comment just sounded to me kinda harmful, you'll understand if you think it with the eyes of somebody who likes those clothes and wears those clothes everyday.

    I do appreciate your comment though
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:28 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidI've never put that trash on my body and never will. Only very very stupid people will pay to be a random corporation's billboard. What kind of person would wear a company name across their chest and pay to do so?

    I think it has more to do with impressing others.
    "I can afford a $100 t-shirt, look at you in your pathetic Target knock off," though I don't believe they realize they are conveying this message. Nor do they realize that they are advertising "rob me, look I have money" .... "I'm in with the in crowd" .... not that there's anything wrong with that ... It's just a stage, as you get older, depending upon where you are at in life, you re-adjust your value system. ... youth and inexperience
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:37 AM GMT
    That's partly true, but in the side of "Look at me i'm wearing expensive clothes" I would not bet for Hollister, probably for Abercrombie but not Hollister because it's not THAT expensive

    I actually think that with brands such as Express or Gucci or Armani exchange... stuff like that your point would fit more than with Hollister.

    If you think I'm fooling around - I tell you this because I HAVE bought nice t-shirts for like 10 dollars, pretty much the same price of a Target average t-shirt
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:43 AM GMT
    simonneversaid said
    george1818 saidAnd your opinion is well fitted on this thread, that's why I created it, I knew that many dudes in here hated those stores, and was expecting comments against my thoughts. Your comment just sounded to me kinda harmful, you'll understand if you think it with the eyes of somebody who likes those clothes and wears those clothes everyday.

    I do appreciate your comment though


    how so? icon_confused.gif you just seem like you're being oversensitive. not everybody is going to like or feel the same way about something you like. as long as they're not dissing you such as saying for example, "you shop at that store so you're a loser", then there's no need to get offended.


    I'm totally not, trust me. And I know, of course not, and I wouldn't want it either. It's not about something being EXPRESSED, is about something that can be assumed - If you state that something is ugly, boring, simple, it can be assumed that if you do that stuff, you are being ugly, boring, so on.. you don't really have to say it to me, you know? I don't know if I expressed my point but I mean it's all good it's not like i'm offended or something just wanted to say what I thought which is the point of the thread
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:57 AM GMT
    Got you bro, no worries
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    Aug 05, 2013 1:34 PM GMT
    george1818 saidGot you bro, no worries


    Somehow, picturing a guy wearing Ambercrobie saying "bro" kinda cracks me up. icon_surprised.gif
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    Aug 05, 2013 1:38 PM GMT
    For those popular high school kids who don’t relinquish their inflated self-views and tastes for distressed denim after the age of 18, Abercrombie and Fitch may be just the place for a future career. That’s because discriminatory, cruel attitudes seem to be just as common among Abercrombie executives as polos are among their target demographic.
    “We go after the cool kids. We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends,” said CEO Mike Jeffries in a 2006 interview with Salon. “A lot of people don’t belong [in our clothes], and they can’t belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely.”
    To ensure that only “attractive” kids buy, wear and promote Abercrombie, Jeffries enthusiastically supports the company’s size restrictions. For men’s clothes, that doesn’t mean much: They offer XXL sizes for the cool, muscular jocks.
    But, for women, that means no pants above size 10 and no shirts or dresses above a large. The company does tread into “extra-size” territory for women, but only to offer extra-small.
    Not only is this kind of policy upsetting, it’s also bad business — which finally seems to be taking a toll on Abercrombie.
    “While a specialty retailer like Abercrombie can’t be expected to appeal to everyone, the brand’s standard of beauty is quickly becoming stale,” wrote Ashley Lutz for Business Insider this week. “Plus-sized is no longer a niche market: 67 percent of the apparel purchasing population fit that label, and the number is growing all the time.”


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    Indeed, Abercrombie stories are rapidly disappearing from malls. Since 2010, closed (or announced plans to close) more than 10 percent of its shops. The company’s stock has also taken a beating.
    Considering these past few years have also been marred by the recession and rising cotton prices, it’s impossible to tell whether negative attitudes toward the branding are responsible for Abercrombie’s troubles. However, some of Abercrombie’s top competitors have done better in face of the same economic issues. They also offer larger sizes and promote healthier body images with the use of plus-sized models.
    Seems like it’s time for Jeffries and the rest of Abercrombie’s executives to get with the times — or they’re primed to lose the “most popular” crown to less exclusive labels. How’s that for irony?
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    Aug 05, 2013 1:40 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said What kind of person would wear a company name across their chest and pay to do so?


    +1

    Same goes for any brand.
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    Aug 05, 2013 1:41 PM GMT
    simonneversaid saidmost definitely wouldn't work there or wear their clothes, period. never have, never will. never was interested in their line of clothing. they look basic, boring and ugly. the negative things that have come out about them just gives me more of a reason not to fuck with them.
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    Aug 05, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
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    Erik101 saidRead this: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3184400

    It will answer your first question.


    I read this some time ago, that's why I posted this, to see actually what would people say about SERIOUSLY working in there


    What if the cunt who runs the company thinks that people who are 5'6" are "uncool"? What would you do then?







    BTW, I personally think that people of any age, size, sex, color, religion, nationality, height, weight, eye color, hair color, lack of hair, lack of limb, etc. can be "cool". "Cool" is an upbeat attitude of self-confidence and inclusion for others.
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    Aug 05, 2013 2:49 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said
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    Best reason not to wear their rags. Looks like, "Hey! Look what I found in the garbage!" Plus his looking like Eric Stoltz in "Mask" doesn't help.
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:29 PM GMT
    GAMRican said
    george1818 said
    Erik101 saidRead this: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3184400

    It will answer your first question.


    I read this some time ago, that's why I posted this, to see actually what would people say about SERIOUSLY working in there


    What if the cunt who runs the company thinks that people who are 5'6" are "uncool"? What would you do then?







    BTW, I personally think that people of any age, size, sex, color, religion, nationality, height, weight, eye color, hair color, lack of hair, lack of limb, etc. can be "cool". "Cool" is an upbeat attitude of self-confidence and inclusion for others.



    I actually agree with you, and I totally would feel bad and discriminated if that would happen, however, when it comes to people judging you for using those clothes or wanting to work in their stores and saying that you support what he does, that's when I don't agree, because for instance I'm not guilty for what this guy says or what the "target" audience of the company is, I just like the clothes and I wear them because of that reason, not because I would "look like i'm cool for discriminating others" but as I see in this site if you use those clothes or work on those stores you suck because you are superficial and stuff like that
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
    turbobilly said
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    Best reason not to wear their rags. Looks like, "Hey! Look what I found in the garbage!" Plus his looking like Eric Stoltz in "Mask" doesn't help.


    Ok guys the thing in here is that as it seems many of you attack hollister because of HIS look and what he says, then what about all what you guys are against? I understand that he is judging others by their appearance, but you are pretty much doing the same with him, can't he be cool too? if it's supposed to be judged not by appearance?

    I mean seriously guys?

    Remember, first of, he is the founder, he does not makes the clothes, second of, do people need to stop getting some sort of clothes because the founder decided to attack youth with psychological marketing strategies?

    I seriously just can't get it, is like saying that I won't fix my car in auto tune because the founder of it does not hire women because he wants his brand to look masculine and attract more clients that way...

    Seriously guys, I understand your point, but just think it for a second without judging already, just be a little more open-minded
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    Aug 05, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
    turbobilly said
    Scruffypup said
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    Best reason not to wear their rags. Looks like, "Hey! Look what I found in the garbage!" Plus his looking like Eric Stoltz in "Mask" doesn't help.


    Dude....that's uncalled for. What did Eric Stoltz ever do to you? icon_evil.gif