I am so disapointed in El Cayote!

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    Nov 13, 2008 2:27 AM GMT
    This was my favorite restaraunt. Now I can never go again. So LA. Stay away from them yes on 8 biatches.
    This is what I read:


    The owner of El Coyote (the LA landmark w/ cheap & mediocre food & maggies) is a Mormon who contributed to "Yes on 8". It's very likely that she gives LOTS of our gay dollars to the Mormon church-- after all, that's what they instruct her to do, and she says she followed their instruction in giving to Yes on 8

    I attended this morning's community lunch at El Coyote.

    No cameras were allowed. We were ushered into the very back room and waiters/tresses took orders though most accepted only water. There were several "reporters" there, from gay publications mostly.

    A young neighborhood patron (a regular?) of El C. started the meeting asking for polite behavior and respect.

    The manager (for 28 years) spoke of how Margie's contribution had nothing to do w/ the restaurant and what a happy family it is and how many people & families depend on it for their livelihood.

    The crowd was mostly very polite as "Marjorie" shakily got up and read a lengthy statement (partially w/ the use of my iphone flashlight). She was supported by two younger (40s) women, perhaps her daughters.

    There was absolutely nothing new in her statement. Marjorie went to great lengths to say how they support gay people and to highlight the history of the restaurant (started by her aunt). She talked a great deal about how it was a loving place and about "family". She made it sound like El C. was very beneficent with their money, but never acknowledged that much of their money comes from the gay community, or even the local community at all.

    A few of us interrupted her along the way (me for one) to point out that "family" or "friends" don't deny civil rights to others.

    She reiterated that she's been a Mormon all her life and the church asked her to contribute.

    One guy asked if she'd give a like amount to repeal prop 8. No.

    Someone said that if that was it, it wasn't enough and we were done.

    I said "are you FOR gay marriage". No.

    At that point I was done, although many stayed much longer.

    I went across the street to the art supply, made a sign and boycotted the place for about an hour.

    Many say "it's not the RESTAURANT that supported 'yes on 8'", or "what about all the people that work there".

    The way I see it, El Coyote and Marjorie have taken in millions of gay dollars over the years and they LOVE gay dollars. Marjorie is probably a very wealthy woman. They-- or at least Marjorie- happily take Gay money and just as happily take away Gay rights and promote the dishing up of hatred. She probably actually does like gay people-- but without allowing us our rights I'd rather be hated to my face. I don't need her to like me, serve me a lousy maggie or host a lunch. I DO need her to support my civil rights whether she agrees with them or not.

    And, I'm truly sorry about the employees there. But, I used to wonder about the holocaust-- how the hell did it actually get executed (horrible word but it works) in a civil society. And I'll tell you, I got a hint today. People (young, gay, margarita-loving people) are too polite and don't want to upset anyone or anything. Marjorie's a sweet old woman, and I would never "attack" her. She's entitled to support whatever causes she likes. And, when those records are made public, I'm entitled to respond. When it comes to Civil Rights, the only response is to defend them as vigorously as possible every step of the way.

    Please spread the word-- El Coyote is a no go. No gay margarita money needs to be used to destroy gay rights.

    John

    BOYCOTT EL COYOTE
    NO MORE GAY DOLLARS TO DESTROY GAY RIGHTS
  • Csrobbie2000

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    Nov 13, 2008 6:01 PM GMT
    I heard about this on NPR on my way to work this morning, and if I remember correctly, the owner donated $100,000.00 on passing Prop 8. I have never been there, and I won't be in the future.
  • EricLA

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    Nov 13, 2008 6:07 PM GMT
    I'm heartsick, too. I haven't been to El Coyote since I've been back in LA (two years now), but I was planning a trip soon. Now that trip may involve picket signs rather than their margaritas.

    Sad.
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    Nov 13, 2008 6:10 PM GMT
    How important are gays to the restaurants survival? Will it be significantly hurt or go out of business?

    If the courts strike down the Prop 8 amendment, would you go back to that restaurant?
  • metta

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    Nov 13, 2008 6:12 PM GMT
    Actually, I think that it was a $100 donation. However, as a Mormon, she is also required to tithe. A percentage of all profits need to go to the Mormon church, a church that tells their members that they must harm gay people and if they do not, they will not become a God when they die or get their own planet.
  • Koaa2

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    Nov 13, 2008 7:34 PM GMT
    The Mormons are involved in a lot more than most people know. I lived in Hawaii for many years, and they own quite a few of the banks and businesses there. Also true here on the mainland. Would be good to get more knowledge on exactly what they own, so we could stop supporting them.
  • EricLA

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    Nov 13, 2008 7:39 PM GMT
    Caslon7000 saidHow important are gays to the restaurants survival? Will it be significantly hurt or go out of business?

    If the courts strike down the Prop 8 amendment, would you go back to that restaurant?


    If the court strikes down Prop 8, then their efforts will have been for naught. I would see no conflict in going back to the restaurant. I'm not sure gays are important to the El Coyote's survival, but if people picketed it I'm sure they would feel am impact.

    The co-owner did herself a disservice by holding a press conference yesterday that dug her further in the hole. She seems to want it both ways -- financially and philosophically supporting our rights being taken away and yet still benefiting from our money.
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    Nov 13, 2008 8:03 PM GMT
    The top dog at Marriot, Mr. Marriot, sent a letter to various gay activists saying basically the same thing as Marjorie. This guy must be a multimillionaire. Though he didn't give to prop 8 (he says), he tithes or he's not a mormon. A lot of money came from him and went to that gay-aggressive cult.
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    Nov 13, 2008 8:10 PM GMT
    McGay saidThe top dog at Marriot, Mr. Marriot, sent a letter to various gay activists saying basically the same thing as Marjorie. This guy must be a multimillionaire. Though he didn't give to prop 8 (he says), he tithes or he's not a mormon. A lot of money came from him and went to that gay-aggressive cult.


    so what, so should we protest people that are staying there since money that they spent went to him which went to the church. where do you draw the line?

    don't make everybody an enemy.


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    Nov 13, 2008 8:13 PM GMT
    Blinktwice, blink a third time, please. I was only relaying some news. I'm not advocating anything, but for myself, I won't be staying at a Marriott anytime soon.
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    Nov 13, 2008 8:16 PM GMT
    McGay,

    mormons are everywhere,

    does this mean that you aren't gonna use coke products or fly on jet blue either?

    i say use the shit you want to and fight it anyway. it's like a double fuck you.
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    Nov 13, 2008 8:24 PM GMT
    What it means is that anytime I'm aware that a mormon is going to benefit from my money, the money will go to a competitor. I'm hoping I can find some nice Satanist who won't treat me like shit when I'm not looking.
  • EricLA

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    Nov 13, 2008 8:34 PM GMT
    FYI, also stay away from the Hyatt in San Diego. We were going to do an event there when we learned one of their owners was a big contributor to Yes on 8 and was the subject of a boycott.
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    Nov 13, 2008 8:41 PM GMT
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    Nov 13, 2008 8:45 PM GMT
    as if i needed another reason not to eat at this dump. fuck marjorie and her nasty food. the food looked and tasted like everything came out of a can anyway, including the salad...uh, yeah. it's that bad.
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    Nov 14, 2008 12:29 AM GMT
    Yea so im going to start going to el compadre on sunset its in walking distance to my house anyone know about the owners of that place.
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    Nov 14, 2008 12:33 AM GMT
    Jefferey -

    Regardless of the dontation to yes on 8 and anger...how could you eat that shit? I went once and there was a slice of what looked like american or velveta cheese 1/2 way melted over a lukewarm enchilada and the beans were dried out around the edges and cracking..
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    Nov 14, 2008 12:36 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]msw1 said[/cite]Jefferey -

    Regardless of the dontation to yes on 8 and anger...how could you eat that shit? I went once and there was a slice of what looked like american or velveta cheese 1/2 way melted over a lukewarm enchilada and the beans were dried out around the edges and cracking..[/quote

    LOL I only stuck with one dish but most of all my favorite thing about that place was the vibe and the margarittas.
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    Nov 14, 2008 8:45 PM GMT





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