Was the past Really better?

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    Aug 08, 2013 6:23 AM GMT
    I think I would have Loved the 80's

    So If you say yes I won't judge you harshly

    I think I may agree also, I miss just being a kid even though I didn't consider myself one then.

    This thread is more than just the 90's which was when I was younger but as far back as the oldest RJ member who will comment can remember.

    I Love the Pasts music

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    Modern "Artists" just can't catch my heart and make me tear up like even a faint memory of an old song I heard for a few second on the radio when I was a kid can..

    What is this generation and up going to listen to or have to remember... Rhianna talking about her overused vagina with her terrible vocals, Miley Cyrus snorting drugs while singing about bitches and ho's, Lil Wayne "rapping" by just stating random things then associating random things with it... (For ex.. It's Goin Down.... Basement/ It' hot as a motherfucka.... Hell...Summatime)

    This isn't all about music either, I just love how it can take you back in a quick instant

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    Aug 08, 2013 6:27 AM GMT
    The older you get the more experience you gain, the more experience the less things mean or hold any significance to you. When you are young and everything is new its all exciting and meaningful and innocent. Generally speaking;)
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    Aug 08, 2013 6:33 AM GMT
    boomerangOz saidThe older you get the more experience you gain, the more experience the less things mean or hold any significance to you. When you are young and everything is new its all exciting and meaningful and innocent. Generally speaking;)


    Hmm well maybe I haven't entered that phase yet.. icon_confused.gif
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    Aug 08, 2013 6:39 AM GMT
    I guess life comes in stages. Im sure older people think we 40 somethings still have stuff to learn. The difference with my generation is now we are realising we no nothing ;)and gain a new respect for generations before us. Its rather a cool thing to discover.
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    Aug 08, 2013 6:40 AM GMT
    The "Good Old Days" are right now.
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    Aug 08, 2013 6:55 AM GMT
    asspermativeaction saidone thing i will NEVER understand is why 90 babies are so obsessed with the past and seem to hate the present day so much. geez, do you guys realize that back then a lot of the shit you guys take for granted such as the internet wouldn't even have existed? no grindr, no smart phones, no ps3, basic cable wasn't even all that, no ipods, no mp3s, no yahoo, none of that shit that you guys wake up and take advantage. even back in the 90s, things were NOWHERE near the way they are now. are you sure you're willing to trade the things that you take for granted in your daily life to go back to the 1980s and 90s when things were hectic. just be happy that you're born in time period that you're born in.


    ................ None of those are Needed things

    I will ignore the rest because.. you don't want to know what I would have to say to that mess you just presented to me so rudely icon_evil.gif
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    Aug 08, 2013 7:05 AM GMT
    god why does everyone quote that fuckwit madman, argh!
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    Aug 08, 2013 7:16 AM GMT
    asspermativeaction said
    TheRece25 said
    asspermativeaction saidone thing i will NEVER understand is why 90 babies are so obsessed with the past and seem to hate the present day so much. geez, do you guys realize that back then a lot of the shit you guys take for granted such as the internet wouldn't even have existed? no grindr, no smart phones, no ps3, basic cable wasn't even all that, no ipods, no mp3s, no yahoo, none of that shit that you guys wake up and take advantage. even back in the 90s, things were NOWHERE near the way they are now. are you sure you're willing to trade the things that you take for granted in your daily life to go back to the 1980s and 90s when things were hectic. just be happy that you're born in time period that you're born in.


    ................ None of those are Needed things

    I will ignore the rest because.. you don't want to know what I would have to say to that mess you just presented to me so rudely icon_evil.gif


    breh, i'm saying it as someone who grew up in the 90s. you were BORN in the 90s and i can tell that you really don't know what you're talking about.

    there were bad music artists in the 90s too. you live in a time period where you have the internet thanks to technology to help you find PAST music or music for that matter. in the 90s, you didn't have the internet to help you with that. be real for second. without the technology you have in your present day, you wouldn't be able to know about how things were back in 1980 because you wouldn't know. you just wouldn't have the access to it. in a sense, you guys are so spoiled that you don't realize how GOOD you have it.


    STFU I know what Im talking about but apparently you don't! You Don't know me so Don't Pretend you Do.. WTH

    Im not asking for a time machine to go back, Im just saying there is a lot in the past that was great, I like the future too and I am looking forward to a good amount of things its just this thread is about the PAST so I did not talk about them

    Your talking about all material things also... Just Really shut up your making me yourself sound dumb

    I feel like as time progresses people are trying so hard to be so "Brand New" that they are forgetting the steeping stones layed out in the past.. In end the past just keeps repeating itself but never being completed

    Plus I know there was a Ton of bad music in the old days.. its just the Good out matched the bad and I can not say that about modern times..

    So the next time you try and sum me up as if you knew me... DONT!

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    Aug 08, 2013 1:19 PM GMT
    The only thing better about the past is the economy. Real wages have been in decline for thirty years now. Other than that, this is the best time to be alive.

    Off topic, but what I like about this new Gilded Age is that a few of the fabulously rich are taking up where NASA left off.
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    Aug 08, 2013 1:38 PM GMT
    I miss the bright colors, the innocence, the musical liberation, the ignorance and the bliss of the 80s. I wouldn't say it was better, it was just good.
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    Aug 08, 2013 2:55 PM GMT
    In a way, yes, but I also feel we always think the past was better because communications were much worse. We never really knew about the horrors going on around us.
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    Aug 08, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
    Past and the present, both has it's good and bad qualities!
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:00 PM GMT
    boomerangOz saidThe older you get the more experience you gain, the more experience the less things mean or hold any significance to you. When you are young and everything is new its all exciting and meaningful and innocent. Generally speaking;)

    +1
    This is what exactly science says too...
    I've seen a video recently, can't recall the name. but they spoke the same what you said.
  • Apparition

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    Aug 08, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    80s music and tv were definitely better than everything up to about say 7 or 8 years ago (tv just got remarkably better recently, and music is all 80s theft of melodies so that is just reruns pretty much)

    new medicine definitely better

    internet much better

    people worse now

    politics worse now since 2001 at least or at least we know more of the bad stuff.


    jobs better then

    middle class better then

    sex was better then as a teenager, less worry.
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:48 PM GMT
    Was the past Really better?

    Many of us judge the past on a subjective basis. Was it good for US personally, do WE have good memories of different periods of time?

    On a personal basis I can love the 1950s. Safe & warm in the embrace of family, my vision short & limited as a child, the 1950s were wonderful for me, full of happy memories.

    Later, studying the 1950s objectively for academic purposes, they look much less attractive. The Cold War, the Commie Menace, the Nuclear Threat, the Black Listings, McCarthyism, the general Republican paranoia. As do the 1960s, that I find ugly and artless, despite the trendy attempts at shallow cultural revolution I find laughable in retrospect, and that continued for another 20 years.

    I see the 1990s as a Renaissance, that I hope continues to this day. But how can I really know? Being a part of it I will always lack the detached objectivity, and the refining lens of time, that future generations will apply.
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:49 PM GMT
    asspermativeaction why are you going off on TheRece25?

    He has an opinion and an idea. At 26 you are very closed minded. As the OP I think he has a valid point worthy of discussion. Disagree, but do it with respect and a valid argument. Not "breh, .....you really don't know what you're talking about."
    Don't romanticize current technology then, it too will change and become someone's "Golden Era" eventually. (Apparently people are collecting PS-1s, I had an old Apple Mac [one piece gray box, B/W that had to be "parked" if it was moved.....with floppy discs]......my first radio was a green AM transistorized box that I listened to the BEATLES on in 1964.

    My parents had a radio with tubes....and no TV till I was born. TV air waves was free back then. Recently I was watching Antenna TV on cable, paying $171.00 a month for my "bundle".......the irony was obvious.

    I LOVE old Motown! But I love Rhianna too. In 20 or 30 years she may be what Whitney Houston, or Diana Ross, or Billie Holiday ARE ........ Legends. Or just a foot note. Too early to tell.

    I love old cars, I've had a 1969 428 CJ Cougar. But a new Mustang GT (needless to mention a BOSS 302) would kill it on the strip or the track. But which one is a better investment? There's something about the sound of a BIG Block V8......GRRRR!
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
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    In end the past just keeps repeating itself but never being completed
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    You're 19?? There is a future!

    "A nation that forgets its past is doomed to repeat it." - Winston Churchill

    And Sonny and Cher icon_rolleyes.gif
    "The Beat Goes On"

    [Chorus:]
    The beat goes on, the beat goes on
    Drums keep pounding
    A rhythm to the brain
    La de da de de, la de da de da

    Charleston was once the rage, uh huh
    History has turned the page, uh huh
    The mini skirts the current thing, uh huh
    Teenybopper is our newborn king, uh huh

    [Chorus]

    The grocery store's the super mart, uh huh
    Little girls still break their hearts, uh huh
    And men still keep on marching off to war
    Electrically they keep a baseball score

    [Chorus]

    Grandmas sit in chairs and reminisce
    Boys keep chasing girls to get a kiss
    The cars keep going faster all the time
    Bums still cry, "Hey buddy,
    have you got a dime?"
  • Kazachok

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    Aug 08, 2013 3:59 PM GMT
    Well I think I'd rather stay in this day and age. Hell, at least I have some rights now... and universal healthcare.
    You know the 1940s and 1950s look so nice and pretty, but on this side of the Pond everyone drank too much, was hysterical over the Cold War, women were enslaved and there was still segregation. And on the other side, they were still rebuilding after World War II. (As my grandma would say, in rough translation: "There was nothing to cover your ass with")
    My mom said everything was great until 1986.
    One thing that seems horrible to me is that the 1970s were fun, but then as soon as the '80s start you get slammed with the AIDS epidemic.
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    Aug 08, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    It's predictable, but exasperating that young people don't realize what fricken miraculous times they are living in. They walk around with the entire knowledge of mankind in their pocket. They can communicate with anybody, anywhere, anytime (almost.) Most childhood diseases are so rare that (Western) doctors don't even remember what they look like. Heart conditions and cancers that would have meant quick death can now be fixed with practically an out-patient procedure.

    Heck, when I was a kid if we had gotten a phone call from India at dinner time, Dad would have sent me running down the road to bring the neighbors in on such a stupendous event. (They would have simply lifted their phones off the hook, because everyone was on the party line.) And they would have alerted the newspaper. Now it's just annoying. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Oh, yeah. And most (but not all) musicians actually had to learn to play music before they became celebrities.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 08, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
    I knew a lot of losers, so I don't miss the past all that much (yes, that includes me). I'm not saying I didn't have fun, because I did, but looking back, I can see the people I knew for what they really were. There were a few good friends I wish I had gotten to know better, but it was never meant to be. I think the past happened for a reason and that reason was to make me grow and become wiser.
  • Hothouse

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    Aug 08, 2013 6:04 PM GMT
    Better - no.
    Different - yes.

    I think some of us who are older think back and remember "the good ole days" not so much because it was better then, but we were different people. Young, innocent, excited and in our memory, some things seem like they were better then.

    It's hard to explain, but in a few years you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
  • MikeW

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    Aug 08, 2013 6:15 PM GMT
    I personally loved the 60s. Partly because I was just coming of age but also there was just so much going on. It is very difficult to convey to anyone who wasn't there but of course not everyone experienced it the same way, either. For me there was definitely a sense of optimism, a sense that things could and would get better. That pretty much came to an end by the mid-to-late-70s and was completely over by 1980.

    Perhaps the best example I can give of this was something called "CoEvolution Quarterly." In the age before the internet, magazines were the way people disseminated information and ideas. The CE Quarterly brought together writings from some of the most future-oriented people of the time. For example, one of the predominant themes was the need to develop an environmentally sustainable energy infrastructure. It was stated, "Building an advanced technological civilization on non-renewable energy resources is a very bad idea." Had this idea been implemented and improved upon from that time, we'd be in much better shape today as country and a global civilization than we are. But, sadly, it was not to be. None of us realized how adamantly opposed to it the hydrocarbon industry would be -- or how powerful they were. The reason only became clear to me in retrospect. Sustainable energy inherently decentralizes both wealth and power.
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    Aug 08, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
    People have been saying the past was better since the dawn of time.
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    Aug 08, 2013 6:18 PM GMT
    To be an adult in the 50's may have been more fun (although certainly not for gay life, which was even dangerous). I would have liked to have experienced the relaxed crossing of the Atlantic on a scheduled passenger liner (thus, not a cruise ship). And going by train from Chicago to New York on the 20th Century Limited instead of plane or Amtrak. Or taking the Pennsylvania, and going through Penn Station before it was torn down.

    Skiing was far better in the 70's-80's, before it became so popular that all the ski areas are now mobbed with crowds.
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    Aug 08, 2013 7:13 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter said... the past was better because communications were much worse. We never really knew about the horrors going on around us.

    mindgarden saidThey walk around with the entire knowledge of mankind in their pocket. They can communicate with anybody, anywhere, anytime (almost).

    I can't help but wonder if that's a significant part of why they feel that the past was better? The world is pressing in too closely on them.

    Sort of reminds me of the 60s and 70s when the nuclear arms race was in full swing and people were building bomb shelters in their back yard and we were expecting a nuclear armageddon. It was rather scary.