Entitlement.....

  • TannerMasseur

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    Aug 08, 2013 12:31 PM GMT
    How do u feel about it? Do u use ur sex, ur looks, ur race, ur class, status or position to get ahead or get special treatment or get things for free or sway others? Like a hot girl/ guy trotting into a bar knowing (gay) guys will buy her/him drinks. Or like an unhumble celebrity, politician or sports athlete playing the "don't u know who I am?" card to get the best seat in the restaurant without making a reservation. Do u see people or do u use entitlement to play the popularity contest? Like it's a whole ego trip for them: "Just because I'm hot, good-looking & rich I want u to be on my side & pay attention to me & my special life." It's like if u see someone who looks like u u both feel u should click because ur birds of a feather. It's like if u fall in the ranks of the majority, u expect anyone who doesn't should see u in a higher social level then them. It's like knowing u have a big cock or knowing ur huge, tall & built so u have every right to be cocky & walk around like ur all tough & no one better mess with u or else. It's like getting special favors, comps, preferential treatment or moving up the job & social ladder faster or getting that higher position or title because of networking or nepotism or because u know so & so & ur connected with the "right" people or ur a trust fund baby & ur parents are prominent so & so who are part of the social power elite. How do u feel about those who are so self-absorbed, who feel they're entitled or deserve to get what they want or expect to be treated better, above & beyond someone else who doesn't possess their believed assets?.....
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    Aug 08, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
    I have in the past when I was pretty and connected used my position and looks to get what I wanted. Now I still can be charming when I really want something. I really don't care either, if people are too shallow to only see me as a handsome man or just a man with a big cock, thats their issue not mine.
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    Aug 08, 2013 1:02 PM GMT
    boomerangOz saidI have in the past when I was pretty and connected used my position and looks to get what I wanted. Now I still can be charming when I really want something. I really don't care either, if people are too shallow to only see me as a handsome man or just a man with a big cock, thats their issue not mine.


    So it's symbiotic, ur using each other---it's a game icon_smile.gif .....
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    Aug 08, 2013 1:06 PM GMT
    for sure
  • TannerMasseur

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    Aug 08, 2013 1:09 PM GMT
    boomerangOz saidfor sure


    People hope to get whatever they invest their attention, time & money in .....
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    Aug 08, 2013 1:11 PM GMT
    Some things in life a person has honestly worked hard for and deserves the benefits, advantages and incentives they receive. Its called reaping what you sow.

    Here is a real recent story...
    So a few weeks ago a grocery owner stranger was talking with my mom because she made him laugh and they started to converse. He told her next time she hits the grocery to ask for him, he'd hook her up. She flat out told him, "No thats OK I don't wanna get you in trouble." He then said, "no its OK, don't worry, I got you." Now this man was Latino and my mother is Black for those who want to paint a visual. After we left my mom said I am not going to that grocery. I don't want to get involved in any possible dishonest dealings there. She said I like to get what I earn and pay for what I have like everyone else. This woman raised me in the same manner. So no I have never been the type of person who desires or feels the need for a "hook up", "you know me" card. Or take advantage of others for selfish personal gain. However I've known people who have that hustler mentality throughout their lives due to being causalities of their environment, be it bad home life or street life. Now those types would welcome it in a heart beat! All in all its all about ones values and what they believe to be right or wrong in the situation. The world we live in today is very "me first" attitude. And some people whom have an over sense of self worth do feel entitled, and sometimes do not even have a concept of what it feels like to not feel entitled.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Aug 08, 2013 1:15 PM GMT
    Integrity11 saidSome things in life a person has honestly worked hard for and deserves the benefits, advantages and incentives they receive. Its called reaping what you sow.

    Here is a real recent story...
    So a few weeks ago a grocery owner stranger was talking with my mom because she made him laugh and they started to converse. He told her next time she hits the grocery to ask for him, he'd hook her up. She flat out told him, "No thats OK I don't wanna get you in trouble." He then said, "no its OK, don't worry, I got you." Now this man was Latino and my mother is Black for those who want to paint a visual. After we left my mom said I am not going to that grocery. I don't want to get involved in any possible dishonest dealings there. She said I like to get what I earn and pay for what I have like everyone else. This woman raised me in the same manner. So no I have never been the type of person who desires or feels the need for a "hook up", "you know me" card. Or take advantage of others for selfish personal gain. However I've known people who have that hustler mentality throughout their lives due to being causalities of their environment, be it bad home life or street life. Now those types would welcome it in a heart beat! All in all its all about ones values and what they believe to be right or wrong in the situation. The world we live in today is very "me first" attitude. And some people whom have an over sense of self worth do feel entitled, and sometimes do not even have a concept of what it feels like to not feel entitled.


    Thx Integrity icon_smile.gif Ur so right on every point u made icon_smile.gif .....
  • TannerMasseur

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    Aug 08, 2013 1:50 PM GMT
    failscarf said
    boomerangOz saidI have in the past when I was pretty and connected used my position and looks to get what I wanted. Now I still can be charming when I really want something. I really don't care either, if people are too shallow to only see me as a handsome man or just a man with a big cock, thats their issue not mine.


    Measurements or its not real....


    It's all about size that makes one feel entitled: the size of ur cock, ur wallet, ur inflated ego, ur girth, width, height, status, position, looks & how it compares to someone else.....
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    Aug 08, 2013 2:03 PM GMT
    spgem said
    boomerangOz saidI have in the past when I was pretty and connected used my position and looks to get what I wanted. Now I still can be charming when I really want something. I really don't care either, if people are too shallow to only see me as a handsome man or just a man with a big cock, thats their issue not mine.

    So it's symbiotic, ur using each other---it's a game icon_smile.gif .....

    Symbiotic is a good word, as opposed to parasitic, which is one-way exploitation. I don't expect, demand nor want special exceptions made for me, just because I think I deserve it by virtue of "who I am".

    Yet my partner & I do get lots of favors given to us, a "game" if you like, but in turn the other person gets value back from us - symbiotic. Typically it takes the form of increased business from us and our friends, and through referrals & connections of all kinds and other beneficial word-of-mouth.

    Knowing us is good for their business, so they want us to keep returning and staying pleased. THEY are getting something out of US that other people can't give them. So we'll get comped drinks and entire meals, for instance, or maybe preferred seating or other considerations, always a surprise to us and never expected, NEVER demanded.

    Just 2 days ago I walked into our local optometrist to get a replacement eyeglass case. I left with 2, one a lovely heavy-duty sports model, for free. They refused to charge me, wouldn't take my money. But then I've helped them with their principle charity, getting it free publicity (as well as for their business), and a venue at no cost to hold the events.

    There's another new merchant in town, and we've taken him as our guest to a couple of gay networking receptions, because we want him to succeed along with his staff, that includes some people we already knew & like. One of the networking groups is very exclusive, a lot of top-tier Fort Lauderdale gay power brokers, you can't attend without a referral, and without a reservation made a month in advance.

    So we arranged all that for him and he went to both of them with us within the last week (we attend on behalf of our own gay charity interests). We introduced him all around, to some prominent people you ordinarily only see in the news. He was thrilled at the contacts he made, the cards he exchanged, and he was photographed for the local magazines & newspapers, that will further advertise his business for free.

    You can't buy that kind of PR. It is any surprise that he comps us drinks and meals when he sees us, and his staff knows to treat us with the greatest respect? I think we've earned it, in view of what we've done for their business, just because we like them, and have our own vision of how we'd like to see this city develop.

    So yes, symbiotic. And when you think you see an instance of entitlement, maybe it's a case of "you wash my back and I'll wash yours". It's sometimes hard to know.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Aug 08, 2013 2:21 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    spgem said
    boomerangOz saidI have in the past when I was pretty and connected used my position and looks to get what I wanted. Now I still can be charming when I really want something. I really don't care either, if people are too shallow to only see me as a handsome man or just a man with a big cock, thats their issue not mine.

    So it's symbiotic, ur using each other---it's a game icon_smile.gif .....

    Symbiotic is a good word, as opposed to parasitic, which is one-way exploitation. I don't expect, demand nor want special exceptions made for me, just because I think I deserve it by virtue of "who I am".

    Yet my partner & I do get lots of favors given to us, a "game" if you like, but in turn the other person gets value back from us - symbiotic. Typically it takes the form of increased business from us and our friends, and through referrals & connections of all kinds and other beneficial word-of-mouth.

    Knowing us is good for their business, so they want us to keep returning and staying pleased. THEY are getting something out of US that other people can't give them. So we'll get comped drinks and entire meals, for instance, or maybe preferred seating or other considerations, always a surprise to us and never expected, NEVER demanded.

    Just 2 days ago I walked into our local optometrist to get a replacement
    eyeglass case. I left with 2, one a lovely heavy-duty sports model, for free. They refused to charge me, wouldn't take my money. But then I've helped them with their principle charity, getting it free publicity (as well as for their business), and a venue at no cost to hold the events.

    There's another new merchant in town, and we've taken him as our guest to a couple of gay networking receptions, because we want him to succeed along with his staff, that includes some people we already knew & like. One
    of the networking groups is very exclusive, a lot of top-tier Fort Lauderdale gay power brokers, you can't attend without a referral, and without a reservation made a month in advance.

    So we arranged all that for him and he went to both of them with us within
    the last week (we attend on behalf of our own gay charity interests). We introduced him all around, to some prominent people you ordinarily only see in the news. He was thrilled at the contacts he made, the cards he exchanged, and he was photographed for the local magazines &
    newspapers, that will further advertise his business for free.

    You can't buy that kind of PR. It is any surprise that he comps us drinks
    and meals when he sees us, and his staff knows to treat us with the greatest respect? I think we've earned it, in view of what we've done for their business, just because we like them, and have our own vision of how
    we'd like to see this city develop.

    So yes, symbiotic. And when you think you see an instance of entitlement, maybe it's a case of "you wash my back and I'll wash yours". It's
    sometimes hard to know.


    That's all so true ART_DECO, every point u made icon_smile.gif U reap the benefits & added bonuses of what u sow if u scratch my back & I scratch urs..... icon_smile.gif
  • Hothouse

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    Aug 08, 2013 2:22 PM GMT
    At my age, I feel I'm entitled to some sexual favors from hot and handsome men.

    OK, but seriously, I've never had the opinion that I deserve any special treatment. It does happen, at times, and usually results - as Art stated, in response to how I've treated others.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Aug 08, 2013 2:36 PM GMT
    Hothouse saidAt my age, I feel I'm entitled to some sexual favors from hot and handsome men.

    OK, but seriously, I've never had the opinion that I deserve any special treatment. It does happen, at times, and usually results - as Art stated, in response to how I've treated others.


    The power of networking & knowing the "right" people icon_smile.gif .....
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:01 PM GMT
    I'm middle class therefore I qualify for very little in entitlements but I pay out the ass for all the bitching lazy idiots that think they've been wronged by society, don't need to support themselves because they have no self worth or feel like they deserve something for nothing and someone else should pay for it.

    I've worked my ass off my entire life, raised a family, saved for a rainy day AND retirement and NEVER qualify for any bennies but continue to pay out the ass in taxes to support everything everyone wants for nothing!
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:08 PM GMT
    eb925guy saidI'm middle class therefore I qualify for very little in entitlements but I pay out the ass for all the bitching lazy idiots that think they've been wronged by society, don't need to support themselves because they have no self worth or feel like they deserve something for nothing and someone else should pay for it.

    I've worked my ass off my entire life, raised a family, saved for a rainy day AND retirement and NEVER qualify for any bennies but continue to pay out the ass in taxes to support everything everyone wants for nothing!


    There's such a great divide between the haves & have-nots, both feel they're entitled.....
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:18 PM GMT
    eb, We worked our asses off our entire lives, helped riase others' families, and cared for those with none, saved for a rainy day AND retirement and rarely ever qualified for any bennies but continued to pay out the ass in taxes. We paid handsomely in taxes and benefits we'll never get. Unemployment insurance for example - combined we've paid about 30k into it, but that's OK because it's about each other (as in everyone else) and not about 'I got mine, you must be lazy if you haven't got yours'.

    Everyone? I think with some research you'll find that abusers of the social system is around 10%.

    Consider that there are a fair number of young men on RJ (I've spoken with some of them) struggling to get education, and jobs that pay enough and have enough hours to eat and have a roof over their heads. Some are forced to live in shelters while they work at whatever they can get. You hurt them with the remark 'everyone'. icon_sad.gif


    warmly ('cause I love you, man)

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    Aug 08, 2013 3:22 PM GMT
    welfare taxes are part of police enforcement/home insurance reduction. without them the others would be much higher than the taxes you pay.

    as far as entitlement, I think it is networking if it is businesses paying or providing, and exploitation if it is just persons paying the bill. Like when I need to advertise a new project, say get on tv for it, that is networking, but mooching rides from friends, that is exploitation.
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:25 PM GMT
    meninlove said eb, We worked our asses off our entire lives, helped riase others' families, and cared for those with none, saved for a rainy day AND retirement and rarely ever qualified for any bennies but continued to pay out the ass in taxes. We paid handsomely in taxes and benefits we'll never get. Unemployment insurance for example - combined we've paid about 30k into it, but that's OK because it's about each other (as in everyone else) and not about 'I got mine, you must be lazy if you haven't got yours'.

    Everyone? I think with some research you'll find that abusers of the social system is around 10%.

    Consider that there are a fair number of young men on RJ (I've spoken with some of them) struggling to get education, and jobs that pay enough and have enough hours to eat and have a roof over their heads. Some are forced to live in shelters while they work at whatever they can get. You hurt them with the remark 'everyone'. icon_sad.gif


    warmly ('cause I love you, man)

    -Doug

    Oh please, you act like people are poor or don't have the basics they need like food and shelter because we have an economic system that requires some level of poverty, when its really all about hard wrk. I'm just gonna say this once: IF YOU'RE NOT MIDDLE CLASS, YOU'RE A LAZY WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH AND DESERVE TO DIE HOMELESS, STINKY, AND UNLOVED.

    —Signed, taxpayers who've never benefitted from anything except our own bootstraps.
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    Aug 08, 2013 3:29 PM GMT
    spgem said
    That's all so true ART_DECO, every point u made icon_smile.gif U reap the benefits & added bonuses of what u sow if u scratch my back & I scratch urs..... icon_smile.gif

    Never demanding or expecting entitlement was drilled into me as a child. I was far better off as a child 50 years ago than I am today, pampered & indulged with long-gone money I can only dream about today. icon_sad.gif

    But if I ever, EVER treated other people badly, expecting special treatment because of who I was, my parents would come down on me like of ton of bricks.

    "You're no better than anyone else, Robert!" my Mother would snap at me (and sometimes hit). "They're as good as you." she would say about store clerks, waiters, service people of all kinds, etc, anyone with whom I dealt.

    My late parents had a sense of equality that was extremely rare in 1950s America, given their own positions, and still not all that common today, either. They despised entitlement, but did favor meritocracy.

    I'm proud to be their son in many things, and hating entitlement is one of them. The meritocracy issue I kinda differ on. Merit deserves recognition & reward, but nothing should grant unqualified entitlement.
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    Guru, I see what you did there, LOL!

    (although for a second there I sat with a raised eyebrow and a rather icily unamused expression) icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 08, 2013 4:20 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    spgem said
    That's all so true ART_DECO, every point u made icon_smile.gif U reap the benefits & added bonuses of what u sow if u scratch my back & I scratch urs..... icon_smile.gif

    Never demanding or expecting entitlement was drilled into me as a child. I was far better off as a child 50 years ago than I am today, pampered & indulged with long-gone money I can only dream about today. icon_sad.gif

    But if I ever, EVER treated other people badly, expecting special treatment because of who I was, my parents would come down on me like of ton of bricks.

    "You're no better than anyone else, Robert!" my Mother would snap at me (and sometimes hit). "They're as good as you." she would say about store clerks, waiters, service people of all kinds, etc, anyone with whom I dealt.

    My late parents had a sense of equality that was extremely rare in 1950s America, given their own positions, and still not all that common today, either. They despised entitlement, but did favor meritocracy.

    I'm proud to be their son in many things, and hating entitlement is one of them. The meritocracy issue I kinda differ on. Merit deserves recognition & reward, but nothing should grant unqualified entitlement.


    Some get a headstart in life depending in what family they are born into (silver spoons), others have to work from the get go to succeed & make something of themselves.....
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    Aug 08, 2013 4:22 PM GMT
    Apparition saidwelfare taxes are part of police enforcement/home insurance reduction. without them the others would be much higher than the taxes you pay.

    as far as entitlement, I think it is networking if it is businesses paying or providing, and exploitation if it is just persons paying the bill. Like when I need to advertise a new project, say get on tv for it, that is networking, but mooching rides from friends, that is exploitation.


    So many free-riding free-loading moochers & leechers.....
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    Aug 08, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
    spgem said
    Some get a headstart in life depending in what family they are born into (silver spoons), others have to work from the get go to succeed & make something of themselves.....

    I got the silver spoon headstart, and then failed miserably at making something of myself. It does sometimes work the reverse way. icon_sad.gif
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    Aug 08, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    spgem said
    Some get a headstart in life depending in what family they are born into (silver spoons), others have to work from the get go to succeed & make something of themselves.....

    I got the silver spoon headstart, and then failed miserably at making something of myself. It does sometimes work the reverse way. icon_sad.gif


    For sure, u feel u don't have to work as hard.....Know some trust fund guys who breeze thru life each week, wallets & pockets always filled with a wad of 100s---their weekly stipend---travel on the spur of the moment anywhere they choose: Vegas this week, Capri the next.....Life's a breeze since their born into money, everything at their fingertips.....
  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 08, 2013 5:30 PM GMT
    I use my brain to try to get ahead, which means that you take any avenue that you see will get you ahead. There's a reason they call it a dog-eat-dog world .. you snooze you loose ... all's fair in love and war
  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 08, 2013 5:33 PM GMT
    The biggest welfare paychecks given out in this country are to the government senators, congressmen and legislators.