The Anti-Obama Hysteria

  • styrgan

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    Nov 14, 2008 3:20 AM GMT
    I want to express some praise for the RJ Republicans who have really over the last week said some really nice things about Obama and expressed some hope that he will do some great things with the challenges facing our country.

    Every newspaper that I read though, including a local editorialist, have been featuring lots of people who have already written off Obama with alot of gloom and doom. They have gone way out of line by saying things like, "Obama will destroy the fabric of the country" and "God help us" and so on.

    What ever happened to giving a President the first Hundred Days? We did it both times with Bush, even the second time around when it was pretty clear he was going to mess everything up. This guy hasn't even been sworn in yet and the far right is already going crazy.

    Is this a function of the extreme partisanship our country has descended into? Is it just because the far right is that morally repugnant?

    Can we blame this on just the heated campaign season that we just went through for two years, and assume that this hatred of our 44th President will soften over time?

    Is it racially motivated?

    What makes Obama different than how we've assigned expectations to every other President since FDR?
  • GoodPup

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    Nov 14, 2008 3:25 AM GMT
    styrgan saidWhat ever happened to giving a President the first Hundred Days? We did it both times with Bush, even the second time around when it was pretty clear he was going to mess everything up. This guy hasn't even been sworn in yet and the far right is already going crazy.


    I agree... except for this statement. People did not give him much of a chance the second time. Not really even the first time. All I remember hearing was everyone saying the democrats had the election stolen from them... celebrities saying they would leave the country (and I am still waiting for that Rosie O'Donnell)..... I just think the republican reaction right now is no different from the democratic reaction 4 and 8 years ago.

    Someone always loses, and they are always gonna be bummed out.

    But yeah, I am hopeful things go well. The election didn't go the way I had hoped, but I'll support him and hope for the best.
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    Nov 14, 2008 3:27 AM GMT
    Rush Limbaugh is already blaming the recession on him....that's the Carl Rove way...keep repeating the same thing over and over (regardless whether its real or not) and the junk food eating, TV watching sheeple will believe it.

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    Nov 14, 2008 3:32 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]JaseinOC said[/cite]
    styrgan saidWhat ever happened to giving a President the first Hundred Days? We did it both times with Bush, even the second time around when it was pretty clear he was going to mess everything up. This guy hasn't even been sworn in yet and the far right is already going crazy.


    I agree... except for this statement. People did not give him much of a chance the second time. Not really even the first time. [quote]

    Maybe its because I lived in America from Sept 11, 2001 thu 2006 that I find it hard to empathize with this position. (shrugs)


    The right-wing is going extra crazy but I think the vast majority is still holding hope for him. People are scared shitless about going into a depression and the same bullshit tactics (Socialism/Islam/Racism) just won't do right now.

    But...it might turn into a different story 4 years from now.
  • styrgan

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    Nov 14, 2008 3:42 AM GMT
    Jase:

    Do you ever remember anyone saying, "Bush is going to destroy the fabric of our country" or "God help us" 4 years ago?

    In 2000, what happened in Florida was the source of some discontent and some bad feelings regarding the election. And I would say rightfully so. People don't like to see the election process not working smoothly. But that was overcome relatively quickly I think. Bush was relatively centrist at first and worked to unite the country. The Democrats couldn't go after him all that much. He supported bills written by Ted Kennedy.

    You might have a better argument in 2004. There were all those people who posted videos of them saying, "I'm sorry" to the world for reelecting Bush. And there were those who expressed concern and sadness over Bush's reelection, and the policies and leadership style he espoused, but they never reached the level of hysteria we're seeing now from the far right.
  • Nicobx15

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    Nov 14, 2008 3:50 AM GMT
    First let me say that I've always voted Republican UNTIL this year! The following is an interesting/thought provoking excerpt from David Letterman!! Again, I voted for Obama and truly believe he was the better of the two candidates...for our country in its' dire times!

    David Letterman: 'The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some Poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true given the source, right?
    >> The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed and 69 percent of the country is unhappy with the performance of the President. In essence 2/3 of the citizenry just ain't happy and want a change. So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking, 'What are we so unhappy about?'
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    >> A. Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 Days a week?
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    >> B. Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter?
    >> C. Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job?
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    >> D. Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time and see more food in moments thanDarfur has seen in the last year?
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    >> E. Maybe it is the ability to drive our cars and trucks from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Oceanwithout having to present identification papers as we move through each state.
    >> F. Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter?
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    >> G. I guess having thousands of restaurants wi th varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough either.
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    >> H. Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all and even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.
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    >> I. Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home.
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    >> J. You may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family, and your belongings.
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    >> K. Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler intrudes, an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss.
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    >> L. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neig hborhoods where 90% of teenagers own cell phones and computers.
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    >> M. How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?
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    >> Maybe that is what has 67% of you folks unhappy.
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    >> Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S., yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't have, and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.
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    >> I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The president who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this the same president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recessio n? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful brats safe from terrorist attacks? The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me?
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    >> Did you hear how bad the President is on the news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn't take a look around for yourself and see all the good things and be glad? Think about it......are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the 'Media' told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day.
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    >> Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go. They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ''general'' discharge, an 'other t han honorable'' discharge or, worst case scenario, a ''dishonorable' discharge after a few days in the brig.
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    >> So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of Americans?
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    >> Say what you want, but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds it leads and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells, and when criticized, try to defend their actions by 'justifying' them in one way or another.
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    >> Turn off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as a country. There is expo nentially more good than bad. We are among the most blessed people on Earth and should thank God several times a day, or at least be thankful and appreciative.'
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    Nov 14, 2008 4:00 AM GMT
    Jesus. F. Christ. Are you kidding me?


    You know, I'm all for opposite opinions. But only when they make me stop and think. Not stop and lose brain cells. There is way too much mindlessness to combat in that post. Can Republicans and conservatives realize we've entered into a new age of intelligence?

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    Nov 14, 2008 4:02 AM GMT
    BTW Nico, do yourself a favor and read Manufacturing Consent.
  • styrgan

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    Nov 14, 2008 4:13 AM GMT
    Nice job, Nico. I thought we could make it about ten posts minimum before someone went off topic to crazy town.

    Guess I was wrong.
  • GoodPup

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    Nov 14, 2008 4:43 AM GMT
    styrgan saidJase:

    Do you ever remember anyone saying, "Bush is going to destroy the fabric of our country" or "God help us" 4 years ago?


    Uhhh... yeah I remember those type of comments. And I remember people trying to make me feel bad for voting for him. I really see no difference in the republican with this election and the democrats in that election. Maybe it was just a select few democrats that were so vocal and not all of them held those views.... but I think the same thing can be said now about the republicans. You only hear the negative people talking cause it wouldn't make very good TV to have republicans saying they will support Obama even though they lost the election. ya know?
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    Nov 14, 2008 4:58 AM GMT

    The David Letterman quotes are interesting, but tell us, which President is he referring to?

    Of course this new Prez has had to endure people who are terrified of his name (remember, Hussein) and some, (and it only takes a few Republicans spooking the public about fake birth certificates and terrorist connections), so yes the hysteria now by the, erm, less 'cranially adept' is going to be rather dramatic.

    Then of course there's the Apocalyptics who want to experience the end of the world before they die. icon_rolleyes.gif



  • styrgan

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    Nov 14, 2008 5:34 AM GMT
    As it turns out, that letter was not written by David Letterman.

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/davidletterman/a/spoiled_brats.htm
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    Nov 14, 2008 5:55 AM GMT


    Eureka! Thanks styrgan,

    It was written by Craig R Smith and published on worldnetdaily.com in Nov of 2006!
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    Nov 14, 2008 5:56 AM GMT
    Hey Nico!

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    Nov 14, 2008 6:18 AM GMT
    I dont get Republicans. After gross incompetence from the Bush Administration, why are they so eager to write off Obama? Could he possibly do any worse? Ever since W Bush was elected, the US has faced a downward spiral. First the Attacks, and now the "economic meltdown". Obama is obviously educated and a bit more poised than W. If anyone is to blame for the fate of the economy its the republican party.
  • GoodPup

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    Nov 14, 2008 6:37 AM GMT
    Seb26 saidIf anyone is to blame for the fate of the economy its the republican party.


    That's a stretch... but whatever gives you warm fuzzy feelings at night so you can sleep better. :-)
    Let me also think of a random group of people with varying beliefs and ideas and blame them for things that have spiraled downhill from a long chain of events that was years in the making.
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    Nov 14, 2008 6:41 AM GMT
    btw i dont live in the states, but from the outside perspective, it seems that the republican party really fucked up. I love that in the search for "weapons of mass destruction"... all they found was a fire-cracker in a mud hut. makes u wonder where those trillions of dollars went when other developed countries provide universal health-care for their citizens. such as Canada.
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    Nov 14, 2008 7:26 AM GMT
    Well, I don't recall the negative comments "writing off" previous presidents and I wonder why anyone would bother with that except to play the "told you so" card down the road.

    As for as a spoiled nation, I definitely think that we are. I don't think we appreciate nearly enough all we have and our arrogance and ignorance is apparent to the rest of the world.

    And as for spooking the public, that's not a trait exclusive to either party but is exercised by both sides for their own gain.

    I think the losing party will always be seen as the party of the negative.
  • PRDGUY

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    Nov 14, 2008 7:39 AM GMT
    msw1 saidRush Limbaugh is already blaming the recession on him....that's the Carl Rove way...keep repeating the same thing over and over (regardless whether its real or not) and the junk food eating, TV watching sheeple will believe it.



    first- i am one who voted mccain and am a rnc nat'l committee member, and i also praised him as my president, hoping for the best.

    live in conservative g o p area of THE CONSERVATIVE STATE OF NC, plus have heard Rove praise Obama just tonite, along w/ dick Morris. so confused, where do u live....??? as for Rush, well any idiot knows the definition, old and new of recession.... and if orcasts hold, we officially entered in2 one july1 or aug 30th, depending on which one u use.... but were u same [upset] when bush inherited a recession that started 3 qtrs b4 his election.

    we have serious problems, but he's my president and where we agree, i'll support him, where I blieve he's on wrong track, ill advise and or play the loyal opposition. and this country is a ship, slow to turn and change ..... I pray for his safety and hopes for at least till mid terms b4 the extreme right and yes extreme left [i think he'll b a centerist]start attackin him. 4 me... he gets whole term
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    Nov 14, 2008 7:42 AM GMT
    Obama is being scrutinized before he even takes office, so thats where my comment came from. Bush certainly is NOT treated like a second-class citizen, he was given a fair shot, so extend the same courtesy to the new president. a bit hypocritical if u ask me, the only reason why everyone is scrutinizing Obama, much like judging a book by its cover, is because he isnt a part of the old boys club, he is not white.

    Id love for him to turn around the economy in less than 4 years to shut all the red-neck ignorant hicks the hell up. I didn't write off the republican party, oh no, they had their shot and guess what.... the majority of America by popular vote agreed.
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    Nov 14, 2008 8:40 AM GMT
    styrgan said
    Is it racially motivated?


    Obama got elected because of affirmated action.
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    Not really. But I remember during his campaign run it was "it's not because he's black it's not because he's black." But the SECOND he became next president elect, headlines everywhere read "RACIAL BARRIER SHATTERS! 1st BLACK PERSON IS PREZ!" Then a MILLION camera pans over to fucking Oprah and Sharpton. It was all about him being black and them being black. But hey, I'm tired of all these wiggahs in office. It's time for a nn......non wiggah! Besides, I think Obama was the better candidate, especially after Palin came on the ticket.
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    Nov 14, 2008 9:37 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]Seb26 said[/cite]the only reason why everyone is scrutinizing Obama, much like judging a book by its cover, is because he isnt a part of the old boys club, he is not white. [quote]

    No way dude... its because one party disagrees with the other party.
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    Nov 14, 2008 10:15 AM GMT
    styrgan saidJase:

    Do you ever remember anyone saying, "Bush is going to destroy the fabric of our country" or "God help us" 4 years ago?

    That would have been me, and I was right.

    Terry
  • GQjock

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    Nov 14, 2008 10:48 AM GMT
    Oh Please ...
    Republicans are quaking in their boots that Obama will be even mediocre since Bush was such a level headed disaster

    Of course they are going to do everything in their power to diminish ANYTHING he does
    Good God ... just watch WhatTheFox News for three minutes and you'll see
  • styrgan

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    Nov 14, 2008 11:22 AM GMT
    jakebenson said
    styrgan said
    Is it racially motivated?


    Obama got elected because of affirmated action.
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    Not really. But I remember during his campaign run it was "it's not because he's black it's not because he's black." But the SECOND he became next president elect, headlines everywhere read "RACIAL BARRIER SHATTERS! 1st BLACK PERSON IS PREZ!" Then a MILLION camera pans over to fucking Oprah and Sharpton. It was all about him being black and them being black. But hey, I'm tired of all these wiggahs in office. It's time for a nn......non wiggah! Besides, I think Obama was the better candidate, especially after Palin came on the ticket.



    But do you think the hysterical predictions put forth by the radical right about the future of the country under Obama are motivated by his race?

    I definitely think that thats a part of it.