Does Barack Obama make you swoon?

  • luvs2travel

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    Nov 14, 2008 4:57 AM GMT
    I just finished watching (again) President-elect Obama's acceptance speech and found it even more moving this time than I did last week. So prophetic.

    Listening to him makes my knees weak and my mind heady with positive energy.

    He's the geeky nerd I always had a crush on and still do.

    God Bless Obama

    What do you think?
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    Nov 14, 2008 5:04 AM GMT
    luvs2travel saidI just finished watching (again) President-elect Obama's acceptance speech and found it even more moving this time than I did last week. So prophetic.

    Listening to him makes my knees weak and my mind heady with positive energy.

    He's the geeky nerd I always had a crush on and still do.

    God Bless Obama

    What do you think?


    Yes.

    Obama is more like that nerd/jock on the team. Though you thought all the other teammembers were homophobic, sexist assholes, he seemed like the only one you could call cool and would rather hang out with your pack than the other guys.



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    Nov 14, 2008 3:59 PM GMT
    I admire him hugely, and have great hopes for his leadership. Right man for the time, IMO.

    but I try not to swoon too much over married men!
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    Nov 14, 2008 4:43 PM GMT
    No. No politician has ever made me swoon. I know what they are like in real life and it is usually nothing like their TV persona.
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    Nov 14, 2008 4:56 PM GMT
    SurrealLife saidNo. No politician has ever made me swoon. I know what they are like in real life and it is usually nothing like their TV persona.


    Exactly
  • olden

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    Nov 14, 2008 6:06 PM GMT
    I also have high hopes for Obama's leadership. But I have no illusions about what he is. He is no geeky nerd; he is an extremely competent politician. I have had the pleasure (?) of hearing some of the greatest orators of our age - recordings of William Jennings Bryan, Churchill, Hitler, FDE, JFK, Everett Dirksen, Adlai Stevenson. They were all consummate politicians. Every word was sculpted and tested before it was said. The problem I have with politicians in general, is that they tend to say one thing to get elected and then do the opposite, such as the vaunted Republican fiscal restraint. I hope that Obama does not push us so far Left that we lose our sense of ambition, and trade our personal ambitions for a safety net. I always remember the words of a great political thinker of the 18th Century, Franklin, who said Those who are willing to trade freedom for safety may find that they have neither freedom nor safety.
  • Jay_379

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    Nov 14, 2008 6:41 PM GMT
    Obama has big promises to fill, but hopefully most will be fufilled, considering he's working with a democratic congress. OH and by the way, during his acceptance speech, I was thinking..."Damn...I never noticed how hot he is." haha...maybe that's my inner gold digger, attracted to him just because he's one of the most powerful men in the world...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 14, 2008 7:13 PM GMT
    No he has a wife and kids, and I respect that. I sometimes wonder should str8 men protest for laws to protect them.

    Pluse he is a politician and an untested on too. Most of em are really only interest in being re- elected, than they are to preserve peace. I don't see anything about him yet, that sets him apart from the rest. Oh he may be the first black fella in the White house in the top job, and not as a slave or servant. But his still only a politician.
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    Nov 14, 2008 8:48 PM GMT
    I think the essence of what I was trying to say is that he makes me feel inspired and capable. I am one of the most cynical people I know, but The energy of this man and the people who have elected him to office is truly inspiring.

    It reminds me that Barack Obama is not the savior of the world. It reminds me that he is here to remind us that we must work for ourselves and others. We must work to improve our own lives by making decisions that positively affect those around us.

    Is he a megalomaniac? Probably. Anyone who aspires to the office of president is most certainly self-absorbed in a way that few others are.

    Is it necessary to remain cautious, study the decisions our government makes and remain active in the process? Absolutely.

    What makes me swoon is his eloquence, his intelligence, his experience in understanding how all things affect all other things.

    Politicains can be an ugly bunch, but it's pretty clear that his policies will differ drastically from those which have turned our society into the mess that we have today.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 14, 2008 8:50 PM GMT
    Um, no Obama doesn't make me swoon. I generally listen to him to see what he plans to do and how he's going to do it.....but no emotional
    reaction, other than knowing things are about to improve.
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    Nov 14, 2008 8:54 PM GMT
    I think the whole anti-politician thing is a little...mindless.

    Anyone who seeks any amount of power above others is ambitious and signals a potential ruthlessness.
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    Nov 14, 2008 8:59 PM GMT
    sexysamer saidYou never know... He maybe worse than President Bush? Nobody know, because he is not a President in the White House yet. So far, I don't like his cabinet or administration... That make me angry.


    Well...there's been very little info on Obama's cab and administration...so, so far, what don't you like about it?
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    Nov 14, 2008 9:08 PM GMT
    luvs2travel saidI think the essence of what I was trying to say is that he makes me feel inspired and capable. I am one of the most cynical people I know, but The energy of this man and the people who have elected him to office is truly inspiring.

    It reminds me that Barack Obama is not the savior of the world. It reminds me that he is here to remind us that we must work for ourselves and others. We must work to improve our own lives by making decisions that positively affect those around us.

    Is he a megalomaniac? Probably. Anyone who aspires to the office of president is most certainly self-absorbed in a way that few others are.

    Is it necessary to remain cautious, study the decisions our government makes and remain active in the process? Absolutely.

    What makes me swoon is his eloquence, his intelligence, his experience in understanding how all things affect all other things.

    Politicians can be an ugly bunch, but it's pretty clear that his policies will differ drastically from those which have turned our society into the mess that we have today.


    You know thats good if you feel inspiration from him in that way, it's good for you. I truly, truly hope he dose not let you down.

    I do feel sorry for him, as when he takes over the White House, he also takes over a crumberling country, with everything falling around him. I just hope this man has the ability to get this tough job ahead of him done. I could go on about how America has fucked up so badly since WWII, but thats another thread.

    I well remember working in my yard, on a fine Spring day, and My Republican American Husband come to me and asked, who do I think won the election. I said Obama. There was no negatives said at that point. I did say lets Give Abe Lincoln a moments thought, as I'm sure he would now have a smile on his face.
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    Nov 14, 2008 9:12 PM GMT

    ya he's a handsom guy , no doubt .. I think the yuonger Obama is hot .. but not that much ..
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    Nov 14, 2008 9:14 PM GMT
    he really doesn't do anything for me personally.... but I want to see him wow me as the leader of the country where I live!
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    Nov 14, 2008 9:28 PM GMT
    sexysamer saidI always thought Obama is more pro-Peace and more open-minded. I guess I was wrong, because he pick too many people in his Cabinet that are pro-Zionists. If Obama is very serious about making peace between Israeli and Palestinains, then he need to find someone who are pro-Peace on both sides (Palestinians and Israelis.) What really worried me is when Obama pick Rahm Emanuel as the White House chief of staff. Rahm Emanuel have been the biggest Zionist, pro-Israel hardliner... His parents were born in Israel and his dad was actually part of the Irgun terrorist gang that ethnically cleansed Palestinians in 1948. Rahm Emanuel never was in the US. army. He was in Israel army for long time.

    I know Obama's vice president is a pro-Zionist and I only accepted him because I thought Obama is going to find someone to work with him are pro-Palestinians too.

    I wonder what other people will think if Obama pick anyone who is a pro-Palestinian and his father was a member of Hamas?


    I understand. Well my advice is to take steps to ensure pro-palestianian voices exist in the Obama administration, or at least comment on official Obama-sites/message boards, or send emails.

    btw: I thought Rahm fighting in the israeli army a rumor/lie?
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    Nov 14, 2008 9:36 PM GMT
    We really know very little about the man although he has to be an improvement over W. He seems to be surrounding himself with all the old Clinton people and I'm not sure that is necessarily good.I like his youth and his nice family and think they will energize DC. It is cool that he makes a point to work out every morning! His stick out ears are kind of cute.
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    Nov 14, 2008 9:48 PM GMT
    Not in the least.
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    Nov 14, 2008 11:04 PM GMT
    Luckydog76 saidNot in the least.


    Well duh.
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    Nov 14, 2008 11:26 PM GMT
    Not sexually attracted to the guy, although he has a terrific smile.
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    Nov 14, 2008 11:46 PM GMT
    does he make me feel inspired?
    ..that would be no.
    but it's not his fault, i'm just over politicians with their rhetoric and promises and inevitable faults. i am not inspired by speeches, but i hold a hope that i will be inspired by his actions...a small hope.icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 15, 2008 3:31 PM GMT
    "I always remember the words of a great political thinker of the 18th Century, Franklin, who said Those who are willing to trade freedom for safety may find that they have neither freedom nor safety"

    olden, that Franklin comment to me sums up too much of the post 9/11 Bush Admin policy, in ways so obvious I needn't repeat them. icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 16, 2008 8:54 PM GMT

    Samer> pro-Zionists. If Obama is very serious about making peace between Israeli and Palestinains

    There is no contradiction here. Zionism is the belief that Jews have the right to self-determination in their own homeland. If you truly believe in making peace between Israel and Arab Palestine then you are a Zionist. The "anti-Zionists" don't oppose a few Israeli government policies but seek to destroy the State of Israel. Now I can understand if an anti-statist anarchist is against all states, but the irony is that the people arguing for the right of self-determination for the Palestinian Arabs simultaneously want to deny that same right to the (Palestinian) Jews. Such blatant racism is usually rationalized with false arguments that Jews are just a religion and not an ethnic group and thus not entitled to self-determination. We even get the ultimate anti-semitic argument that Jews aren't really Jews (but Khazar/European converts, a theory advanced based on slight linguistic data points half a century ago and since then totally debunked by modern genetic science and DNA tests).


    Samer> I wonder what other people will think if Obama pick anyone who is a pro-Palestinian and his father was a member of Hamas?

    The comparison is false at every level. Irgun never ran a government in Israel. To the contrary, it was quashed by the mainstream Jewish Agency and Haganah. Exactly what the PA refuses to do with Hamas which is running its own (if illegitimate) government in Gaza. Of course, Hamas has the support of about 1/3rd of the population, something the Irgun could only have dreamed about.

    There are also multiple levels of anachronism here. No one should be judged by what his father did 60+ years ago. Hamas, of course, is now and thus associations can be of relevance.

    More importantly, while the Irgun perpetrated acts that today would be considered "terrorism" (most were guerrilla attacks against the British military, though shamefully they also engaged in retaliatory attacks against Arabs), they did so before the 1949 Geneva Conventions and modern anti-terrorism treaties. One could similarly anachronistically argue that the partisans (e.g. the French Resistance) who fought the nazis were "terrorists". Yet these international laws are not retroactive. Hamas is violating these conventions now.

    In short, Samer's argument is akin to saying that some politician's great-grandfather owned slaves and comparing it to a hypothetical reaction to a candidate whose father currently owns slaves.


    Samer should be satisfied that one of Obama's mideast advisors is none other than Dennis Ross, Clinton's chief negotiator during the Oslo Peace process. Unless, of course, he really is an "anti-Zionist" and is against the peace process and the two-state solution.