Realjock - Helping Out the LGBT community.

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    Aug 12, 2013 12:56 AM GMT
    There seems to be a bit of confusion as to what this thread is trying to accomplish. So Im making to clear points to make sure we are all on the same page here:

    1 - This thread is about asking Realjock's admins to provide us with a forum section dedicated to helping out the LGBT community. This forum section will also provide certain features which I describe in my last paragraph bellow.

    2 - This thread is not asking anyone to donate or anything of the sort but to simply say "yes I like the idea of having a dedicated forum section for this" or not.

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    I was thinking that Realjock members can play a better role at promoting support for the LGBT around the world. We do have a Gay News & Events forum but I feel like it does not provide the right space or tools for us to be able to organize all the information regarding anti-gay movements and how to battle them through social media, donations and other forms of protest. What do you guys think about a forum section dedicated to supporting the LGBT community worldwide? This would be the place where we can expose anti-gay crackdowns, offer advice and help to those who are prosecuted anywhere. This forum section can even provide sticky threads for LGBT donations, protest meet ups and any other sort of topic that requires immediate attention. I'm a web developer I can easily set up a site for this...and I was about to but then I thought : what the hell? Realjock has over 100 000 gay members, if anyone has a pretty damn good chance at succeeding with this is this website. I dont know if the admin will even be willing to go for this but I surely hope so. Im tired of feeling useless and no we cannot fix all the wrong in the world but at least we can try to help with this particular "wrong". As part of the LGBT we should be more active with our support, we are a tiny minority and if we dont help out each other nobody else will. Please reply to this thread if you agree with this idea and if you believe that Realjock should be more involved and dedicated to supporting the LGBT community by providing a forum section for the cause along with some of the tools and options described above.

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    Aug 12, 2013 3:48 AM GMT
    you're 100% right. Every gay person has advice to give another gay person. Whether youre closeted, DL, completely out, kinda out. There are so many different delicate situations in the gay world, that support is key to all. We need to help spread the LGBT group and reach those men who have no one else to turn to about their troubles. I definitely support this.
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    Aug 12, 2013 3:52 AM GMT
    You sure do know how to get guys' attention with that thing swinging in the wind! :-)
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    Aug 12, 2013 4:07 AM GMT
    Charlitos, I think you'll have better luck starting your own site or maybe a Facebook group. I'd say most guys are here for shits and giggles.
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    Aug 12, 2013 5:26 AM GMT
    I actually read this before, was considering how to respond, but then my nephew came home. Now he's gone to bed and I only opened this "other" thread because, well, I prefer cut so I was curious to see what hottest uncut might be (spare me the visuals). That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

    An existentialist at heart, though of a compassionate heart, I'm often conflicted with being in the habit of not telling someone how to run their business while considering what steps might be taken to improve a situation which can make it tough for me to respond. My initial response is that the proposal is, of course, worthy both as an effort for our community and as an opportunity for someone profiting off ad revenue to give back to the community. But also the problem is daunting.

    I've mentioned in other threads how frustrating it must be for someone living in a country oppressive to gay people to have such readily available information on gay life in countries with more freedom. Even though we didn't get much freedom to be gay before mass communication kicked in, our status removed from being considered a personality disorder right about when satellites were first coming into public use, by now we are on television and radio and internet and music and pretty much in everyone's face.

    It's one thing to be living oppressed, but as Dante noted: "There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery." So for the truly oppressed to see us living relatively happy must compound their hardship and frustration.

    Now that same mass communication is putting their oppression in our face. As we gain a foothold on a solid rung of humanity in our countries, what is our responsibility? And what's possible? How to influence change in a society that is not yours without violating the prime directive? Has broadcasting our freedom already caused risk taking in oppressive countries which now demands our interference?

    What say do we even have with our own governments to exert influence if we don't yet have full marriage rights in our own country?

    How to trust what happens to money sent to a place like Russia?

    This "one particular wrong" is huge and it has the momentum of 1000s of years against us. How do you fight that? Where to begin?

    If looking at helping those in trouble then, without yet giving this the thought it deserves, my first thought is providing an escape route for lives endangered. Lobbying our own governments to allow immigration of gay people and to provide sanctuary. I presume that would require some underground network to get people out of their countries.

    And how can we do even that when we can't even save our own kids from their fundamentalist families? So many questions with hardly scratching the surface. I do believe, however, that this is the next front in the battle for gay rights: to export around the world the freedom we win at home.
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    Aug 12, 2013 7:09 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidYou sure do know how to get guys' attention with that thing swinging in the wind! :-)


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    Aug 12, 2013 7:15 AM GMT
    While I appreciate your enthusiasm and wanting to help others,Real Jock has no power or influence. This is a gay hookup site and the most we can do is counsel somebody if they're grieving.
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    Aug 12, 2013 7:20 AM GMT
    theantijock saidI actually read this before, was considering how to respond, but then my nephew came home. Now he's gone to bed and I only opened this "other" thread because, well, I prefer cut so I was curious to see what hottest uncut might be (spare me the visuals). That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

    An existentialist at heart, though of a compassionate heart, I'm often conflicted with being in the habit of not telling someone how to run their business while considering what steps might be taken to improve a situation which can make it tough for me to respond. My initial response is that the proposal is, of course, worthy both as an effort for our community and as an opportunity for someone profiting off ad revenue to give back to the community. But also the problem is daunting.

    I've mentioned in other threads how frustrating it must be for someone living in a country oppressive to gay people to have such readily available information on gay life in countries with more freedom. Even though we didn't get much freedom to be gay before mass communication kicked in, our status removed from being considered a personality disorder right about when satellites were first coming into public use, by now we are on television and radio and internet and music and pretty much in everyone's face.

    It's one thing to be living oppressed, but as Dante noted: "There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery." So for the truly oppressed to see us living relatively happy must compound their hardship and frustration.

    Now that same mass communication is putting their oppression in our face. As we gain a foothold on a solid rung of humanity in our countries, what is our responsibility? And what's possible? How to influence change in a society that is not yours without violating the prime directive? Has broadcasting our freedom already caused risk taking in oppressive countries which now demands our interference?

    What say do we even have with our own governments to exert influence if we don't yet have full marriage rights in our own country?

    How to trust what happens to money sent to a place like Russia?

    This "one particular wrong" is huge and it has the momentum of 1000s of years against us. How do you fight that? Where to begin?

    If looking at helping those in trouble then, without yet giving this the thought it deserves, my first thought is providing an escape route for lives endangered. Lobbying our own governments to allow immigration of gay people and to provide sanctuary. I presume that would require some underground network to get people out of their countries.

    And how can we do even that when we can't even save our own kids from their fundamentalist families? So many questions with hardly scratching the surface. I do believe, however, that this is the next front in the battle for gay rights: to export around the world the freedom we win at home.


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    Aug 12, 2013 2:17 PM GMT
    Such a bait and switch tactic...But I agree that RJ can become a powerhouse and align itself to better promote and facilitate LGBT community.
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    Aug 12, 2013 2:20 PM GMT
    Well, if you ever want to see an uncut dick again...you know where to find me.
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    Aug 14, 2013 3:10 AM GMT
    The_Tango saidWhile I appreciate your enthusiasm and wanting to help others,Real Jock has no power or influence. This is a gay hookup site and the most we can do is counsel somebody if they're grieving.


    The majority of active forum members here come to this site for participation and not so much for the hookups. So no, this assumption is far from accurate. Unfortunately Im afraid the problem relies on interest: Not everyone gives a shit, and many people here prefer to pay more attention to a funny/inflammatory thread than to a cause driven one.
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    Aug 14, 2013 3:13 AM GMT
    xrichx saidCharlitos, I think you'll have better luck starting your own site or maybe a Facebook group. I'd say most guys are here for shits and giggles.


    I know, but Im not asking for the moon here, just a "yes we want this" or a "no we do not want this". Im not asking realjock members to get involved or to be an active part of this support but to at least give others the chance to be, by commenting on this thread(positively) to get the admin's attention.
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    Aug 14, 2013 3:15 AM GMT
    charlitosThe majority of active forum members here come to this site for participation and not so much for the hookups. So no, this assumption is far from accurate. Unfortunately Im afraid the problem relies on interest: Not everyone gives a shit, and many people here prefer to pay more attention to a funny/inflammatory thread than to a cause driven one.


    I don't mind helping people in need. I'm just afraid of unwittingly donating to an Nigerian scam artist.
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    Aug 14, 2013 3:20 AM GMT
    GooberGeek said
    charlitosThe majority of active forum members here come to this site for participation and not so much for the hookups. So no, this assumption is far from accurate. Unfortunately Im afraid the problem relies on interest: Not everyone gives a shit, and many people here prefer to pay more attention to a funny/inflammatory thread than to a cause driven one.


    I don't mind helping people in need. I'm just afraid of unwittingly donating to an Nigerian scam artist.


    This thread is not to ask anyone to donate, but to ask Realjock's admins to offer a place(forum section with special features) where those who want to offer ANY type of help to the LGBT community whether it be donations, advice, news, organized protest etc, can do so in a more structured and effective manner.
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    Aug 14, 2013 3:37 AM GMT
    charlitos said
    GooberGeek said
    charlitosThe majority of active forum members here come to this site for participation and not so much for the hookups. So no, this assumption is far from accurate. Unfortunately Im afraid the problem relies on interest: Not everyone gives a shit, and many people here prefer to pay more attention to a funny/inflammatory thread than to a cause driven one.


    I don't mind helping people in need. I'm just afraid of unwittingly donating to an Nigerian scam artist.


    This thread is not to ask anyone to donate, but to ask Realjock's admins to offer a place(forum section with special features) where those who want to offer ANY type of help to the LGBT community whether it be donations, advice, news, organized protest etc, can do so in a more structured and effective manner.


    Cool. I'm for it.