Turkey to become second majority Muslim nation to protect sexual minorities from discrimination

  • metta

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    Aug 15, 2013 9:59 PM GMT
    Turkey to become second majority Muslim nation to protect sexual minorities from discrimination

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/turkey-become-second-muslim-nation-protect-sexual-minorities-discrimination150813
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    Aug 15, 2013 10:35 PM GMT
    failscarf saidYay Turkey!


    don't "yay turkey!" icon_rolleyes.gif
    did u even read the article?

    "Homosexuality was added only to a 'justifications,' section of the draft constitution which functions like a guidebook or appendix for judges and prosecutors"....

    basically, it's not actually added to the constitution itself. Also, the article goes on top explain they added "homosexuality and gender identity" as a trade off to allow Muslim women to wear headscarves at state jobs. . which they are currently not allowed to do..


    All in all a crock of shit. Islam and homosexuality are imcompatible. then again, look at Russia. World is a fucked up place. Glad I live where I do.
  • blueandgold

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    Aug 16, 2013 4:00 AM GMT
    Import said
    failscarf saidYay Turkey!


    don't "yay turkey!" icon_rolleyes.gif
    did u even read the article?

    "Homosexuality was added only to a 'justifications,' section of the draft constitution which functions like a guidebook or appendix for judges and prosecutors"....

    basically, it's not actually added to the constitution itself. Also, the article goes on top explain they added "homosexuality and gender identity" as a trade off to allow Muslim women to wear headscarves at state jobs. . which they are currently not allowed to do..


    All in all a crock of shit. Islam and homosexuality are imcompatible. then again, look at Russia. World is a fucked up place. Glad I live where I do.


    I'm not sure I understand your umbrage. While it may not be a wholesale "yay gays!", its certainly a step forward for Turkish men and women who happen to be gay, is it not? It shows a continuing shift in world demographics toward acceptance of homosexuality.

    In terms of women being allowed to wear headscarves, isn't this also a positive? Shouldn't women be allowed to wear and do what they want?

    I've been to Turkey a bunch of times and have a few gay friends there. They're pretty happy about this, man. Be happy too.
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    Aug 16, 2013 4:23 AM GMT
    I agree with Blue and Gold. It IS a step forward. India is still pathetic on the LGBT front. I'm fairly respected and liked where I stay, but the day I'm outed is the day I'm made a social pariah by highly educated and self proclaimedly progressive people.
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    Aug 16, 2013 4:24 AM GMT
    mmmm turkey
  • blueandgold

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    Aug 16, 2013 4:27 AM GMT
    Matiz saidmmmm turkey


    My partner is Turkish, and the first gift I got him on our second date was a super cheesy T-shirt that said "I'm Hungary for Turkey" with a picture of both countries.

    He laughed, but I think he was being polite. He's never worn it lolololololol.
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    Aug 16, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
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    failscarf saidYay Turkey!


    don't "yay turkey!" icon_rolleyes.gif
    did u even read the article?
    I did. And it goes like this:

    "The effort to add sexual orientation to the draft constitution was championed by the pro-Kurdish Peace and Democracy Party and the Nationalist Movement Party.

    However Turkish LGBT rights group Kaos GL say they fear the mention of homosexuality in the draft constitution will not make it to the final version and doubt that it will have any great effect even if it is left in.

    'As we have so many homophobic [and] transphobic judges in Turkey, it is difficult to expect that their interpretation of hate crimes will change all of a sudden by this addition,' a spokesperson for the group messaged GSN.

    'This whole thing is just a draft, [the sexual orientation and gender identity] part can be deleted later."

    Notice the words in bold. Yes, I read it; and I'll wait till the final outcome to make an opinion. As it stands, it doesn't look like it's going to make it. The Muslim leaders have a long way to go before accepting such a controversial proposal.
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    Aug 16, 2013 11:54 AM GMT
    It is a start, and a hell of a lot further than one of the worst, Iran.

    Yay Turkey.
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    Aug 16, 2013 11:55 AM GMT
    blueandgold said
    Matiz saidmmmm turkey


    My partner is Turkish, and the first gift I got him on our second date was a super cheesy T-shirt that said "I'm Hungary for Turkey" with a picture of both countries.

    He laughed, but I think he was being polite. He's never worn it lolololololol.


    He is still with you, so that says something about your humor. icon_cool.gif