Name Change

  • Joeyphx444

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    Aug 23, 2013 6:44 AM GMT
    I am considering changing my last name.

    It is Fraska which is my adoptive father's name and it is Polish. It was actually changed when his Grandparents came to America. It was originally Fraszka (pronounced frr-ah-sh-ka) it's like a sh almost "dg" like in "ridge" sound. I thought it was a lot more interesting and kept the Polish in there. I want to preserve that and don't really care about confusion cuz people can't even say Fraska right. I think the desire to keep the original grandparents name is a good reason right? Not to mention is sounds better
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    Aug 23, 2013 6:52 AM GMT
    You want to change your last name because people can't pronounce it right? That doesn't sound worth it. You should be proud of your surname and it was passed down for generations. You should check the meaning of your last name and maybe it'll interesting you. If you didn't care about it, then there's nothing stopping you.
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    Aug 23, 2013 6:54 AM GMT
    The_Tango saidYou want to change your last name because people can't pronounce it right? That doesn't sound worth it. You should be proud of your surname and it was passed down for generations. You should check the meaning of your last name and maybe it'll interesting you. If you didn't care about it, then there's nothing stopping you.


    Thats not what he said, read it again.

    I think you should do it, that sounds like a really good reason to.
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    Aug 23, 2013 6:56 AM GMT
    Slim2010 said
    The_Tango saidYou want to change your last name because people can't pronounce it right? That doesn't sound worth it. You should be proud of your surname and it was passed down for generations. You should check the meaning of your last name and maybe it'll interesting you. If you didn't care about it, then there's nothing stopping you.


    Thats not what he said, read it again.


    I can't read well. I'll just hit the ZZZZZ's then.
  • Suetonius

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    Aug 23, 2013 7:19 AM GMT
    You have a great reason to change it. At least yo uhave the benefit of knowing what the original name was - a lot of descendants of immigrants to the US don't know what their anscestors' names were, because they were changed when they landed in the US in the 1900's, and no one has any old documents (if there ever were any).
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    Aug 23, 2013 7:23 AM GMT
    yeah change it back to the original
  • adultoreo

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    Aug 23, 2013 1:01 PM GMT
    In all honesty, most people don't care if your surname is Fraska or Franklin. Change it only if it appeals to you and is worth taking the efforts to change it.
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    Aug 23, 2013 1:31 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidI am considering changing my last name.

    It is Fraska which is my adoptive father's name and it is Polish. It was actually changed when his Grandparents came to America. It was originally Fraszka (pronounced frr-ah-sh-ka) it's like a sh almost "dg" like in "ridge" sound. I thought it was a lot more interesting and kept the Polish in there. I want to preserve that and don't really care about confusion cuz people can't even say Fraska right. I think the desire to keep the original grandparents name is a good reason right? Not to mention is sounds better

    A lot of Europeans had their names misspelled or deliberately changed when they came to the US. That happened to some of my own ancestors. And my late partner's father had Anglicized the family name when he joined the US Navy in WWII to erase his Italian heritage.

    I think you are free to "correct" the spelling back to its original form, it's a common practice. My only questions are whether the name mismatch with other family members who share your current spelling would cause other people (and government) to become confused, and if that might generate resentment from those members.
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    Aug 23, 2013 3:49 PM GMT
    Keep your current name and then use the original sur name as a middle name on you first born, legacy lives, confuse avoided, family still loves you icon_smile.gif
  • Joeyphx444

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    Aug 24, 2013 10:51 AM GMT
    Import saidI'm not really seeing the point. --- Is it because u find the original spelling more interesting? That's it? What else?

    You've gone through your entire life with your current name. All your legal documents, diplomas, certificates, yearbook photos, everything have that name on it. Not to mention, your entire family have that name and you would be the only one changing it. .

    Also, not to sound harsh or rude, but you're of Polish ancestry or adopted into Polish ancestry--you're not actually Polish. You're not actually from Poland-- if u were to go to Poland--Polish people would not accept you as one of them--you're an American. So why the need to cling to the ethnic identity of a country that doesn't even consider you one of them, right?

    I'm irish, but I don't consider myself Irish in the sense I could go to Ireland and blend right in and be an Irish person--I was born here, culturally American... etc etc. Irish ppl would not consider me one of them...I'd be American to them.... My family last name back in Ireland was McDuffie, however in America is was changed to "Duffy"....and that's who I am--- Duffy. not McDuffie--- it was changed- things change. Life goes on. Why cling? Why "go back" to roots that aren't really even real? Your roots are in Arizona or wherever you're from....not in Poland. You have no real connection to Poland except for your name is some derivative of a Polish name.




    Well on the surface it is for the sound and the spelling. I know I am not Polish but I am not American born either. I know consider myself American but I am not gonna change it based on that. I am not going back to my old given name which was Suarez. It's not really even about my heritage, you kinda missed the point but I'll add something as well.

    Besides the spelling and sound, I want to have this different name to kind of put some change into my life. I know it may sound useless but a name change is a way of transforming. Distancing yourself from your previous self. The name is such a small part of it but it is part of it. I will always be Joseph or Joe or Joey but I just need to do this. Why do people change themselves physically? It's just a self image thing I guess
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    Aug 24, 2013 11:45 AM GMT
    It's your name. Change it as you wish.
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    Aug 24, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
    Change it to 'Swallows'..
    I've always wanted to meet a hot gay guy with that last name!
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 24, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    When my great grandparents came to the US from Germany, the spelling of my last name changed.. an "h" was added, so it makes us a little different than all my kin in Hamburg.

    Good luck with that.. I can certainly understand.
  • cowboyathlete

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    Aug 24, 2013 3:40 PM GMT
    When my mother's ancestor Christian Woll moved here from Germany a century or two ago, the spelling of his last name was changed from Woll to Wool. I was never clear if that was his idea or the US officials' idea.
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    Aug 24, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
    Keeping the old is cool, but do that which you like and what will make your life easier. I can certainly understand where you coming from in wanting to change it to the original but having a name that's even more difficult to say is hell....I have a first and last name which people can't say for the life of them. And to make it worse my middle name, being my dad's name, rhymes with my first name. So I have often considered changing it...But I'm stubborn so I won't.
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    Aug 24, 2013 3:50 PM GMT
    Have you talked to someone who has changed their name? I hear its a bureaucratic nightmare, not the initial change but everything else. School records, medical records, passport, insurance etc.
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    Aug 24, 2013 4:30 PM GMT
    Be proud of it.

    ..a fellow proud Pollack.
  • SanEsteban

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    Aug 24, 2013 4:51 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 saidI am considering changing my last name.

    It is Fraska which is my adoptive father's name and it is Polish. It was actually changed when his Grandparents came to America. It was originally Fraszka (pronounced frr-ah-sh-ka) it's like a sh almost "dg" like in "ridge" sound. I thought it was a lot more interesting and kept the Polish in there. I want to preserve that and don't really care about confusion cuz people can't even say Fraska right. I think the desire to keep the original grandparents name is a good reason right? Not to mention is sounds better


    I agree with you! My last name is Czech (Kovar) but the pronunciation is all off here in the states. In the Czech Republic, it is spelled the same but there is an accent mark over the a and the upside down carrot (^ except upside down) over the r. It is pronounced Kov-ahzsh. Too many names were butchered when our ancestors came to the US.
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    Aug 24, 2013 6:45 PM GMT
    I have tried understanding you OP, but it seems you have a lot of internal issues related to your ethnicity and background. I dunno, do what you want but it sounds stupid.
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    Aug 24, 2013 6:54 PM GMT
    bhp91126 saidHave you talked to someone who has changed their name? I hear its a bureaucratic nightmare, not the initial change but everything else. School records, medical records, passport, insurance etc.


    About the same after getting married?
    Or is it worse?
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    Aug 24, 2013 6:56 PM GMT
    Anocxu said
    bhp91126 saidHave you talked to someone who has changed their name? I hear its a bureaucratic nightmare, not the initial change but everything else. School records, medical records, passport, insurance etc.


    About the same after getting married married?
    Or is it worse?

    No idea. We decided to keep our names. Having a "family-name" wasn't important to us.
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    Aug 24, 2013 7:00 PM GMT
    As much as I am intrigued by people's histories, I would advise against it. It makes things more complicated. People have a hard time pronouncing my last name, which is a simple Italian word. My partner's simple Italian last name is easily misspelled, which can be annoying. During moments of anger, I've been tempted to change my last name to "Smith" And when I move, I want to live on Smith St, in Smithtown, in the state of Smith. And my phone # will be (555)555-5555. Then some idiot will spell it "Smyth" and I'll have the same problem all over again. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 24, 2013 7:09 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidIt's your name. Change it as you wish.

    I agree. And I like the reason for the change.
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    Aug 24, 2013 7:10 PM GMT
    ART_DECO saidA lot of Europeans had their names misspelled or deliberately changed when they came to the US.

    I had a guy come and repair my washing machine. His last name was Hirtler. Made me wonder if the r was added after WWII.
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    Aug 24, 2013 7:12 PM GMT
    Do it the way it was intended to be. It makes me sad when I see how many people had to change their names in order to feel "accepted" or just to make their lives easier from idiots who can't pronounce their names.

    My parents changed my first name to something English when I was kid so that going to school would be easier on me. My greek name is very long. Now that I'm older, I'm actually upset with them that they chose to do that. They could've at least shortened it to make it easier, not change it entirely. Now I'm going thru a process where I'm getting people to call me by my Greek name, or at least the short form of it.

    We need to embrace our roots. And fuck those who have a problem with it.