Israel Plans Monument to Gays Persecuted by Nazis

  • metta

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    Aug 24, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
    Israel Plans Monument to Gays Persecuted by Nazis
    A monument dedicated to homosexuals who were persecuted by the Nazis during the Holocaust will soon be erected in central Tel Aviv.

    http://www.advocate.com/society/culture/2013/08/24/israel-plans-monument-gays-persecuted-nazis
  • Buddha

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    Aug 24, 2013 5:41 PM GMT
    I think that's wonderful.

    I've heard some people saying something about that "gay people aren't that well-treated in Israel" and that their gay-friendly activities are a facade, but I much rather prefer a country having a facade (if that's true, I'd actually want to go to Tel Aviv one day) and acknowledge homosexuality than countries that death-penalize it.
  • Import

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    Aug 24, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
    Oh, Israel.
  • Fargo

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    Aug 24, 2013 8:00 PM GMT
    Buddha saidI think that's wonderful.

    I've heard some people saying something about that "gay people aren't that well-treated in Israel" and that their gay-friendly activities are a facade, but I much rather prefer a country having a facade (if that's true, I'd actually want to go to Tel Aviv one day) and acknowledge homosexuality than countries that death-penalize it.


    Death penalty for homosexuality? Where?
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    Aug 24, 2013 8:01 PM GMT
    metta8 saidIsrael Plans Monument to Gays Persecuted by Nazis
    A monument dedicated to homosexuals who were persecuted by the Nazis during the Holocaust will soon be erected in central Tel Aviv.

    http://www.advocate.com/society/culture/2013/08/24/israel-plans-monument-gays-persecuted-nazis


    I wonder what the right wing anti-gay pro-israel conservatives think of this...
  • Lincsbear

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    Aug 24, 2013 10:00 PM GMT
    Isn`t there one in Amsterdam?
  • ASHDOD

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    Aug 24, 2013 10:33 PM GMT
    the right in israel maybe dosen't like homosexuality, but for the most part it tolerates it.
    in the last elections lots of gays voted for right wing parties.
    the ''likud'' party,who is the leading party [ you can compare it to the republicans] is gay friendly.
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    Aug 24, 2013 10:33 PM GMT
    I read that 5000-15000 gays were in the camps. They convicted 100,000 gays but why didn't they send most of them to the camps and only a few?
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    Aug 24, 2013 10:52 PM GMT
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homomonument

    Amsterdam
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    Sydney
    Pink_Triangle_Sydney,.jpg

    Berlin
    Denkmal_fuer_verfolgte_Homosexuelle_Berl

    Sitges
    Sitges_gay-memorial.jpg

    http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/holocaust/ho08.html

    Bologna
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    Buchenwald
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    Cologne
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    Anchorage
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    San Francisco
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  • secondstartot...

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    Aug 25, 2013 4:44 AM GMT
    Buddha saidI think that's wonderful.

    I've heard some people saying something about that "gay people aren't that well-treated in Israel" and that their gay-friendly activities are a facade, but I much rather prefer a country having a facade (if that's true, I'd actually want to go to Tel Aviv one day) and acknowledge homosexuality than countries that death-penalize it.


    I have now lived in Israel for 4 years I promise you it is no facade
    at least two of our biggest singers are gay
    we won euro vision with a transvestite
    I have friends both gay and straight who were in the army and told me how cool it was
    Tel Aviv Pride is HUGE
    sure there are certain places which are less accepting but you will find these are religious places either conservative jew or muslim or christian and are not accepting of anything
  • JuneauMike

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    Aug 25, 2013 5:41 AM GMT
    I have always loved Israel and its people.
  • JuneauMike

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    Aug 25, 2013 5:47 AM GMT
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  • mwolverine

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    Aug 27, 2013 6:01 AM GMT
    Buddha saidI think that's wonderful.

    I've heard some people saying something about that "gay people aren't that well-treated in Israel" and that their gay-friendly activities are a facade

    As others have commented, that's not true and I'd dare say it's their hate speaking.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/tel-aviv-named-top-gay-city-israeli-city-bumps-new-york-best-pride-city-article-1.1007487

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    Aug 27, 2013 6:22 AM GMT
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    Buddha saidI think that's wonderful.

    I've heard some people saying something about that "gay people aren't that well-treated in Israel" and that their gay-friendly activities are a facade, but I much rather prefer a country having a facade (if that's true, I'd actually want to go to Tel Aviv one day) and acknowledge homosexuality than countries that death-penalize it.


    Death penalty for homosexuality? Where?


    Mostly shitty Islamic countries. Click the link for a bigger pic.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxSo9Z2S-5feMYS-PYXdR

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  • Aerach8193

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    Aug 27, 2013 6:34 AM GMT
    I think Israel should concentrate on it's own on going human rights abuses!
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    Oct 15, 2013 3:01 AM GMT
    theantijock saidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homomonument

    Amsterdam
    Ac.homomonument.jpg


    Berlin
    Denkmal_fuer_verfolgte_Homosexuelle_Berl



    Thank you. (I saw Bent with Richard Gere, on Broadway. I also saw the movie.)
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    Oct 15, 2013 3:49 AM GMT
    It was the gay SA who brought Hitler to power in 1932. Then Hitler executed them which was his basis for persecuting all gays.

    The chart doesn't take into account that President Obama is an accessory to persecuting gays by increasing US Foreign Aid to countries which execute and imprison gays. Many of these counries governments would fall if it weren't for US Foreign Aid and corporate investment.
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    Oct 15, 2013 9:31 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidThe chart doesn't take into account that President Obama is an accessory to persecuting gays by increasing US Foreign Aid to countries which execute and imprison gays. Many of these counries governments would fall if it weren't for US Foreign Aid and corporate investment.


    Same bullshit, different thread.
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    Oct 15, 2013 11:19 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidIt was the gay SA who brought Hitler to power in 1932. Then Hitler executed them which was his basis for persecuting all gays.

    The chart doesn't take into account that President Obama is an accessory to persecuting gays by increasing US Foreign Aid to countries which execute and imprison gays. Many of these counries governments would fall if it weren't for US Foreign Aid and corporate investment.


    I think we give far too much money to other countries and I think you do make a good point although you make it kinda strongly.
  • metta

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    Dec 15, 2013 6:38 AM GMT
    Israel’s first memorial to gay Holocaust victims unveiled

    Israel’s first memorial to the homosexual victims of the Nazis was inaugurated on Tuesday in a Tel Aviv park near the city’s Gay Center



    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/israel%E2%80%99s-first-memorial-gay-holocaust-victims-unveiled141213


    http://alturl.com/saf3h
  • metta

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    Dec 15, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
    Israel honors gay Holocaust victims in first national memorial


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    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/12/israel-honors-gay-holocaust-victims-in-first-national-memorial/
  • metta

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    Jan 10, 2014 6:55 PM GMT
    Israel city unveils gay Holocaust victims memorial

    Holocaust-Gay-Monument-1.jpg


    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/01/israel-city-unveils-gay-holocaust-victims-memorial/
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    Sep 12, 2014 6:49 PM GMT
    How about a monument to all the Palestinians who lost their lives and property to the continuing illegal occupation?

    Nawwww I don't see that coming. It would be like the Nazi's building a monument to concentration camp victims. Too contradictory.
  • Trontastic

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    Sep 13, 2014 6:32 AM GMT
    To say I disagree with Israel regarding its' treatment of Palestine is a large understatement.

    Still, I can recognize this has nothing to do with that, and I think its a pretty good move. Bravo!
  • mwolverine

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    Sep 17, 2014 5:51 AM GMT
    Trontastic saidTo say I disagree with Israel regarding its' treatment of Palestine is a large understatement.

    Still, I can recognize this has nothing to do with that, and I think its a pretty good move. Bravo!

    Good catch, Trontastic, but the haters just can't stop hating (or making odious comparisons of Jews to nazis).

    For those interested in the larger Arab-Israeli conflict:

    "Palestine" is the Latin/European name for Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland
    - and early 20th century Arab denials of the existence of "Palestine".

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/349491

    The Palestine Paradox
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2652202

    Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people.
    (Judaism is a religion, Jews are an ethnic group)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/494893

    Arabs are not indigenous to Israel - now confirmed by Hamas
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/979648

    1947-1948: Arabs reject compromise and attack Israel
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/960691

    Jerusalem
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/887747

    The two-state solution: Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters and the Olmert Plan.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2670812

    And more specifically related to this thread's topic:

    Countries that support gays or kill them
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/984797

    Gay Palestinians
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1061322?forumpage=4