He's my friend, and you're not, so he can be a dick to you and I'll condone it.

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    Aug 24, 2013 11:31 PM GMT
    I have noticed on here that some unruly members have been abusive towards less popular members and people tend to ignore and/or condone their actions.

    In real life I would never condone the poor behaviour of a fellow friend towards another person and it's a deal breaker for me with friendships, you're nice to me, you are nice to everybody.

    Seeing someone pick on someone and have people still talk and accept that person and be their friend is wrong in my view, and I believe that this is the sole reason why so many bullies get away with their behaviour, because they're popular, and since they're popular they can get away with it.

    One arguement my brother said to me years ago after I spoke to an ex-friend of his who had been a real asshole to him was "I would never put myself in the company of someone who gave you a hard time", he was really angry at me for disrespecting his hurt feelings and honor.

    It does denote disrespect to condone the behaviour of people towards others just because they are nice to you.

    On the other arguement side, I once had a "friend", who was trying friends with my bully at the same time, to which he argued "I don't judge others by what people say about them, if someone has a bad rep I get to know them so I can make my own opinion about them" I argue that judgements are fine, but when there is facts and proof of abuse a person befriending someone's abuser is cruel and selfish. I dont judge a killer by others opinions, but I know he has murdered people, so i would never put myself in the same company with such a person.

    Why are there double standards with so many crowds?
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    Aug 24, 2013 11:39 PM GMT
    Your examples are too far fetched. Why did you bring up Hitler?
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    Aug 24, 2013 11:43 PM GMT
    The_Tango saidYour examples are too far fetched. Why did you bring up Hitler?


    Meh, Hitler is usually the hallmark of prickishness.

    Everybody uses the Hitler comparison lol
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    Aug 24, 2013 11:53 PM GMT
    Well, you've nailed it i2 and it is certainly one of the things I hate about human nature - for people desperate to be popular, at least.
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    Aug 24, 2013 11:55 PM GMT
    i2ci2i said
    The_Tango saidYour examples are too far fetched. Why did you bring up Hitler?


    Meh, Hitler is usually the hallmark of prickishness.

    Everybody uses the Hitler comparison lol


    Hitler wasn't as bad as everyone is making out to be. Stalin was a lot worse. I'd rather be living in Germany than in Russia after the world war ended.
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    Aug 24, 2013 11:57 PM GMT
    The_Tango said
    i2ci2i said
    The_Tango saidYour examples are too far fetched. Why did you bring up Hitler?


    Meh, Hitler is usually the hallmark of prickishness.

    Everybody uses the Hitler comparison lol


    Hitler wasn't as bad as everyone is making out to be. Stalin was a lot worse. I'd rather be living in Germany than in Russia after the world war ended.


    Okay.......deleting Hitler reference as we speak.
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
    Nothing new. Follow along or be left out of the "in crowd". It happens in real life too.
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
    yea, there are some members that do get ignored, and being on that side of the spectrum I've learned to just talk to those who can see me. I don't need all the friends in the world, but a few good ones is all that matters. icon_smile.gif

    Granted I do see some members attack others, kinda like a pack of lions hunting for their next prey. Sadly there is really nothing that can be done about it. icon_sad.gif
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:08 AM GMT
    Mesmer saidyea, there are some members that do get ignored, and being on that side of the spectrum I've learned to just talk to those who can see me. I don't need all the friends in the world, but a few good ones is all that matters. icon_smile.gif

    Granted I do see some members attack others, kinda like a pack of lions hunting for their next prey. Sadly there is really nothing that can be done about it. icon_sad.gif


    Pack of Lions does sound pretty accurate, reminds me of a certain thread spining around.

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  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 25, 2013 12:15 AM GMT
    You never been around bitchy queens bro?

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    Aug 25, 2013 12:28 AM GMT
    For me, this isn't about the bitchy queens, it's their friends who do nothing, they say the definition of cruelty is indifference to suffering, I remember watching the 1960 movie "The Time Machine" and when the lead character meets the eloi he finds that one girl has fallen into the nearby river and while drowning, the rest of the eloi just sit there inactive and watch, that shits fucked up.

    It's the same thing with condoning the actions of your clique.
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:35 AM GMT
    I don't want to take the time and research on here whether the shade is justified (which is the case a lot) or whether some people just hold on to childish grudges and get their 'friends' to join in.

    Oftentimes people never get past their first impressions and view every subsequent post of the 'offender' through that filter.
  • Import

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    Aug 25, 2013 12:35 AM GMT
    honestly tho, this is the internet. This isn't real life. A lot of people need to get a grip and realize that. The same rules don't apply.

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    Aug 25, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:37 AM GMT
    I'm trying to understand this thread but I just can't. Let's get to the real point of why you did this thread.

    You've befriended Pazzy, someone who has threatened violence against other members BECAUSE they pointed out his behaviors and poor judgments.

    My dear, that's more bullying than "defending yourself" as he has so said. Inciting violence or trying for intimidation is an attempt to bully. Please look up your definitions.


    Be frank, be honest and at least be to-the-point. We get that you have issues with other members, but creating a thread instead of actually talking to them starts a harsher shit storm.
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:38 AM GMT
    Here on RJ, we settle things the way they do back in Africa:
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:43 AM GMT
    They only have power if you give them power. They think we aren't relevant, so what? Fortunately they have isolated themselves to a few threads. The rest of us can ignore them when they come out and troll. They are nice to each other and mean to outsiders. That makes them mean, period.
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:47 AM GMT
    TrevorMark saidI'm trying to understand this thread but I just can't.

    You've befriended Pazzy, someone who has threatened violence against other members BECAUSE they pointed out his behaviors and poor judgments.

    My dear, that's more bullying than "defending yourself" as he has so said. Inciting violence or trying for intimidation is an attempt to bully. Please look up your definitions.


    Be frank, be honest and at least be to-the-point. We get that you have issues with other members, but creating a thread instead of actually talking to them starts a harsher shit storm.

    Oh yes, you are so grown up and mature pointing out other people's failures again and again. If that person upsets you so much, put him on ignore and be done with it. But those constant needle pricks make the lets-hate-pazzy gang the assholes. As for threatening violence and him bullying someone, please look up what bullying is and compare that definition with what you, jmuscle and others have been doing for months now.
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    Aug 25, 2013 12:49 AM GMT
    bhp91126 said
    TrevorMark saidI'm trying to understand this thread but I just can't.

    You've befriended Pazzy, someone who has threatened violence against other members BECAUSE they pointed out his behaviors and poor judgments.

    My dear, that's more bullying than "defending yourself" as he has so said. Inciting violence or trying for intimidation is an attempt to bully. Please look up your definitions.


    Be frank, be honest and at least be to-the-point. We get that you have issues with other members, but creating a thread instead of actually talking to them starts a harsher shit storm.

    Oh yes, you are so grown up and mature pointing out other people's failures again and again. If that person upsets you so much, put him on ignore and be done with it. But those constant needle pricks make the lets-hate-pazzy gang the assholes. As for threatening violence and him bullying someone, please look up what bullying is and compare that definition with what you, jmuscle and others have been doing for months now.

    I would like for you to point out my "bullying", Mr. Holier-Than-Thou.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying
    bul·ly1
    ˈbo͝olē
    verb
    gerund or present participle: bullying

    1.
    use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.

    Superior strength? Force them?
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    Aug 25, 2013 1:15 AM GMT
    TrevorMark said
    bhp91126 said
    TrevorMark saidI'm trying to understand this thread but I just can't.

    You've befriended Pazzy, someone who has threatened violence against other members BECAUSE they pointed out his behaviors and poor judgments.

    My dear, that's more bullying than "defending yourself" as he has so said. Inciting violence or trying for intimidation is an attempt to bully. Please look up your definitions.


    Be frank, be honest and at least be to-the-point. We get that you have issues with other members, but creating a thread instead of actually talking to them starts a harsher shit storm.

    Oh yes, you are so grown up and mature pointing out other people's failures again and again. If that person upsets you so much, put him on ignore and be done with it. But those constant needle pricks make the lets-hate-pazzy gang the assholes. As for threatening violence and him bullying someone, please look up what bullying is and compare that definition with what you, jmuscle and others have been doing for months now.

    I would like for you to point out my "bullying", Mr. Holier-Than-Thou.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying
    bul·ly1
    ˈbo͝olē
    verb
    gerund or present participle: bullying

    1.
    use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.

    Superior strength? Force them?

    Yep Mr Can-do-no-wrong, bullying. Ganging up on one member to try to get him banned or make his experience here so unpleasant that he leaves by himself fits the term bullying.
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    Aug 25, 2013 1:22 AM GMT
    I wish somebody would force me to do things with their superior strength.
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    Aug 25, 2013 1:24 AM GMT
    Import saidhonestly tho, this is the internet. This isn't real life. A lot of people need to get a grip and realize that. The same rules don't apply.

    I don't follow that.
    The real jock members are the only gay people l presently know. How is this not real life and why don't the same rules apply?
    TV Shows are not real life. This is real life.
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    Aug 25, 2013 1:42 AM GMT
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    Aug 25, 2013 1:50 AM GMT
    So far I have yet to read anything extreme that Pazzy has written so far, if anything I am more disturbed by all the abuse he's getting.

    I wouldn't blame him for sending death threats after the amount of shit I have seen people throw at him on here, just leave him alone, if he's the unstable creep you all say he is, then just click him on ignore and let us creeps all creep on our other creep friends in harmony. icon_razz.gif
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    bhp91126 said
    Yep Mr Can-do-no-wrong, bullying. Ganging up on one member to try to get him banned or make his experience here so unpleasant that he leaves by himself fits the term bullying.

    1)Ganging up? I've never called for others to join in or "back me up". Ever. Period. People have come to their own conclusions or agreed or chimed in on their own. That's them. Not me. I control nor influence more than a public post in which someone can obviously disagree with me as I know MenInLove often does. We talk infrequently about it and I happen to agree with their goodwill most of the time, if you'd like to know.
    2) Telling people who find the button discourse of report spam or report abuse does, still not bullying.
    3) Not once have I ever messaged anyone on here trying to get someone banned. Not even back when ac was posting the same shit over and over. Never. Having someone who incites violence is toxic. Having someone who consistently plays victim, says the same shit over and over is post-spam. Attempting to level with them and then having them send you nothing but hate... yeah. I don't want them to leave, but I'm not vying for them to stay if they refuse to compromise or listen. I can't make someone understand even if I try and they don't want to. Surely you know that. He knows he needs help. Says he needs help. Refuses to get help.