Based on my photos below, will I ever bulk up?

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    Aug 25, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
    So this is what my body looks like right now. I am 22 and I am 5'7". I tried working out before, one or twice maybe, but I stopped because when I was at the gym, I felt so out of place. All guys there were really big guys and it discouraged me somehow because I was the only skinny one and I just didn't know what to do next after an exercise. lol

    When I came across Real Jock, I realized I want so badly to get in shape and I did not reached my full potential because I let my insecurities get in the way. So I think I am ready now. I just really have to toughen up and thicken my skin.

    So yes, looking at the photo below, do you think I will ever be muscular? I want to have big and well defined arms and that V shaped torso. I really don't eat a lot so diet is not a problem with me. I can eat salad for lunch the whole week at work.

    Do you have any routine suggestions for me? I would greatly appreciate it. I want to get ripped. I want to see my abs and see the definition of my chest and all that. I want to have wide chest and big arms so that when I wear a shirt, it would fit me perfectly. Looking at my other pictures, I realized I have a really slender arms.

    Is it possible for a twink like me to get ripped? Do you think if I start working out I will achieve the body I want? Also, I am thinking to starting swimming as an exercise cuz I really like how a swimmer's body looks like. Is there a chance, I could get that same V shape torso if I start working out and smimming? Also, will it look weird for someone who is 5'7" tall guy like me to be muscular at the same time?

    Thank you guys. icon_smile.gif Please be nice lol


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  • Aug 26, 2013 3:18 AM GMT
    I know this is easier said than done, but you need to remind yourself/tell yourself, "who the fuck cares." It sounds like you're serious about hittin up the gym, so let me tell you that when guys (who are serious) go to the gym, they don't give a flying fuck about other people who "feel out of place."

    In other words, don't waste your time "feeling out of place." JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYONE THERE BUT YOURSELF! icon_twisted.gif
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    Aug 26, 2013 3:39 AM GMT
    PeacoatNShorts saidI know this is easier said than done, but you need to remind yourself/tell yourself, "who the fuck cares." It sounds like you're serious about hittin up the gym, so let me tell you that when guys (who are serious) go to the gym, they don't give a flying fuck about other people who "feel out of place."

    In other words, don't waste your time "feeling out of place." JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYONE THERE BUT YOURSELF! icon_twisted.gif


    aaaw. thanks for responding. okay yea i won't i wont give a flying fuck. hehe.
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    Aug 26, 2013 3:55 AM GMT
    I'm a skinny runt and I use the gym like some people use religion. I go regularly and do my thing and that's all that matters and I know for sure I have better legs than 80 percent of the muscle bound bogans who never do legs. If they snigger at me, I look at their legs and do the same...

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    Aug 26, 2013 4:01 AM GMT
    Your body fat doesn't appear high at all, so you need to add protein to your diet and do strength training.
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    Aug 26, 2013 4:16 AM GMT
    I agree with apollo. Start with your diet. Protein, leafy greens, fresh fruit and veggies. Second, get enough SLEEP, at least 7.5 hours a night. No refined sugar. No white carbs. No soft drinks. Minimal dairy, and only low fat.

    Then get to the gym! Alternate strength training days with cardio days. Check out the routines here on rj. Find what works for you. Work your entire body over the course of a week.

    You'll be in amazing shape in no time!
  • MikeW

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    Aug 26, 2013 4:28 AM GMT
    Based on my photos below, will I ever bulk up?

    The answer to that question has nothing to do with how you look today. What matters is your commitment and dedication, including your willingness to learn *how* to do it.

    I understand a gym can be intimidating for a novice. It definitely helps to do some research and have a clear idea of what you are doing, why you're doing it and how to do it right. Also remember the big guys weren't born that way. They may have started out before you did but they all started 'scrawny'. For someone your age it takes *at least* 3 (and probably more like 5) years of dedication to "bulk".

    Muscle building is an adaptive response. The muscle you have now is partly genetic but mostly the result of the demands you've made on your body so far. If you want your muscles to grow, you have to make demands on them you've not made before. And you have to make those demands repeatedly over a long period of time. Moreover, it isn't just a matter of making demands, you also have to give them the right nourishment and give them the rest they need to grow. Muscle growth doesn't occur in the gym. It mostly happens at night. So, you need to learn to eat right and you need to allow recovery time in between your workouts, including 8 hours of sleep at night.

    As for which program to use, I honestly don't think it matters all that much provided it is geared to a beginner. There are some good programs right here on RJ. As you progress, you change up your routine. It is also important to keep clear notes so you *know* whether or not you are improving. It could take months before there is any clear visual confirmation that you are, in fact, gaining muscle, size and strength.

    *Form* is more important than how much weight you use, especially when you are starting out. This means you have to pay attention to your body in a way you may not have before. It means learning to concentrate and 'feel' the way a muscle or group of muscles moves. Lean to have tension and intension in the targeted muscle. Learn correct form and *then* begin to add more weight, more sets and repetitions. If you're unsure how to do an exercise properly, do a search on youtube or hire a personal trainer to teach you.

    Its also very important to stay motivated which means that at some level you have to enjoy what you're doing. I don't know about you but I have very little discipline to do anything I do not *want* to do. On the other hand, if I *enjoy* something, or at least enjoy it most of the time or enjoy the results I get from it, I have no problem motivating myself to do it. It may be this is *the* most important part of it. For example, you may find weight lifting BORING as hell. If so, try some other form of activity like TRX or HIIT. Or find a sport you enjoy like swimming or basketball or rock climbing or break dancing. Whatever keeps you *active* and moving and making more demands on your body. Then augment that with weight lifting to help sculpt your body.

    Body building really is both an art and a science. Unless you just happen to be genetically gifted, it takes time and dedication. You *can* do it, though, if you *want* to.
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    Aug 26, 2013 6:46 PM GMT
    WestAussieGuy saidI'm a skinny runt and I use the gym like some people use religion. I go regularly and do my thing and that's all that matters and I know for sure I have better legs than 80 percent of the muscle bound bogans who never do legs. If they snigger at me, I look at their legs and do the same...




    hahaha. thats so funny! thats how you do it then? hahaha

    i have chicken legs (is that how you call it?) but i will do my best to include them as well as part of my work out routine because i want to be in proportion. pfff i cant wait! hehe.

    thanks!
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    Aug 26, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
    blkapollo saidYour body fat doesn't appear high at all, so you need to add protein to your diet and do strength training.


    you think so? yea i think i really need lots of protein since its good for building muscle. i just wish i had someone to go to so that i wont feel weird when im there. i always have that awkward moment when i dont know what to do next haha
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    Aug 26, 2013 6:54 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    Based on my photos below, will I ever bulk up?

    Or find a sport you enjoy like swimming or basketball or rock climbing or break dancing. Whatever keeps you *active* and moving and making more demands on your body. Then augment that with weight lifting to help sculpt your body.



    Thanks Mike for your insight. Yes it really takes a lot of dedication. I signed up for RJ because most guys here are so fit. and i know to be fit, one has to be disciplined. and i find discipline really sexy so yea. and they inspire me a lot.

    Thanks for the motivation and words of wisdom. hehe

    I am not really a big sports fan but for body building sake, I really want to learn how to swim because i noticed that swimming sculpts the body into a certain figure and i like it a lot. broad chest and it narrows down to the hips. I wanna achieve that.

    I really wish I can get started on all my plans soon. icon_biggrin.gif

    Thanks again.
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    Aug 27, 2013 1:30 AM GMT
    d56mike saidI agree with apollo. Start with your diet. Protein, leafy greens, fresh fruit and veggies. Second, get enough SLEEP, at least 7.5 hours a night. No refined sugar. No white carbs. No soft drinks. Minimal dairy, and only low fat.

    Then get to the gym! Alternate strength training days with cardio days. Check out the routines here on rj. Find what works for you. Work your entire body over the course of a week.

    You'll be in amazing shape in no time!



    Oh thank you so much for those practical advice on what i should eat. it would really help me a lot. Yea i will definitely check them out. im so excited i wanna get started right away.
  • chrisjb626

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    Aug 27, 2013 1:48 AM GMT
    I used to have the same mentality as you. While I don't consider myself very muscular, I was always skinny and afraid to go to the gym. What worked for me was going in the morning before work. It sucked waking up that early, but without a lot of people there, its easier to just focus on what you need to do and you will build confidence.
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    Aug 27, 2013 2:01 AM GMT
    chrisjb626 saidI used to have the same mentality as you. While I don't consider myself very muscular, I was always skinny and afraid to go to the gym. What worked for me was going in the morning before work. It sucked waking up that early, but without a lot of people there, its easier to just focus on what you need to do and you will build confidence.


    thats a great idea indeed. but first i need to learn how to drive. "its easier to just focus on what you need to do and you will build confidence" -thanks for this. ill keep this in mind
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    Aug 27, 2013 2:31 AM GMT
    A lot of gyms have personal trainers, which is a good investment if you are brand new to working out. You will have somebody specific to go see, so it won't be as awkward as going there alone. You can learn a lot, instead of wasting time wandering around doing ineffective exercises or doing things wrong. If you can't afford one, dont let that stop you from going. But it's worth looking into if you feel uncomfortable at the gym and don't quite know what exercises to do and how to do them.
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    Aug 27, 2013 2:36 AM GMT
    IRFire66 saidA lot of gyms have personal trainers, which is a good investment if you are brand new to working out. You will have somebody specific to go see, so it won't be as awkward as going there alone. You can learn a lot, instead of wasting time wandering around doing ineffective exercises or doing things wrong. If you can't afford one, dont let that stop you from going. But it's worth looking into if you feel uncomfortable at the gym and don't quite know what exercises to do and how to do them.



    yea i did my research on that as well. i personally would want to hire a personal trainer but its too expensive. id go broke. haha.
  • Trauts

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    Aug 27, 2013 2:44 AM GMT
    Yeah, what the others said were spot on. Don't worry about the other people, just worry about yourself. Everybody's gotta start somewhere and I'm pretty sure there may be a few guys who were in the same fitness stage as you.

    Look at the bigger guys as a form of motivation rather than discouragement. icon_smile.gif
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    Trauts saidYeah, what the others said were spot on. Don't worry about the other people, just worry about yourself. Everybody's gotta start somewhere and I'm pretty sure there may be a few guys who were in the same fitness stage as you.

    Look at the bigger guys as a form of motivation rather than discouragement. icon_smile.gif


    yea like the guy in my hotlist he is such an inspiration to me. when i saw his body when he was younger, i was so shocked. it made me realize that there's always hope. hehe

  • LexJock27

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    Aug 27, 2013 3:09 AM GMT
    You will fill out, it just takes time. You are young, your metabolism is still really high so any gains will seem to come very slowly. Now is the easiest time for you to put on lean mass. Once your metabolism slows down, mine did at age 25, your body will tend to store fat much easier. It sounds like your dedicated and others have given some good advice. I only wish i had started at your age. I only got serious about two years ago when my best friend decided it was time for us to bulk up. Finding the motivation to just do it is the trick i've found. Its a lot easier if you find someone to work out with, you wont think about what others are doing while in the gym and you motivate each other. Nobody really cares why your there, we are all there for our own reasons. If you cant find a workout partner, just do what everyone else does. Walk into the gym with a plan, put your headphones on, and lift. The hardest part of training is diet, eating right and drinking water, lift regularly and with good form, and sleep. You cant grow if you dont feed your body, and you wont grow if you dont give yourself enough rest. Over training is easy to do. Muscle doesnt grow in the gym, it grows when your body repairs what you did in the gym.
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    Aug 27, 2013 3:12 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]Jantheman said[/cite]So this is what my body looks like right now. I am 22 and I am 5'7". I tried working out before, one or twice maybe, but I stopped because when I was at the gym, I felt so out of place. All guys there were really big guys and it discouraged me somehow because I was the only skinny one and I just didn't know what to do next after an exercise. lol

    When I came across Real Jock, I realized I want so badly to get in shape and I did not reached my full potential because I let my insecurities get in the way. So I think I am ready now. I just really have to toughen up and thicken my skin.

    So yes, looking at the photo below, do you think I will ever be muscular? I want to have big and well defined arms and that V shaped torso. I really don't eat a lot so diet is not a problem with me. I can eat salad for lunch the whole week at work.

    Do you have any routine suggestions for me? I would greatly appreciate it. I want to get ripped. I want to see my abs and see the definition of my chest and all that. I want to have wide chest and big arms so that when I wear a shirt, it would fit me perfectly. Looking at my other pictures, I realized I have a really slender arms.

    Is it possible for a twink like me to get ripped? Do you think if I start working out I will achieve the body I want? Also, I am thinking to starting swimming as







    Hang out with a butch, muscled guy for a month and copy his behavior to see if you can get into that lifestyle. Typically twinks have an ecosystem that creates and supports the soft body or vice-versa.





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    Alpha13 said[quote][cite]Jantheman said[/cite]
    Hang out with a butch, muscled guy for a month and copy his behavior to see if you can get into that lifestyle. Typically twinks have an ecosystem that creates and supports the soft body or vice-versa.



    Really? you think so? hanging out with a butch? mmm
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    Aug 27, 2013 4:37 AM GMT
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    Alpha13 said[quote][cite]Jantheman said[/cite]
    Hang out with a butch, muscled guy for a month and copy his behavior to see if you can get into that lifestyle. Typically twinks have an ecosystem that creates and supports the soft body or vice-versa.



    Really? you think so? hanging out with a butch? mmm


    Last August I met a twink at a pool party. He called himself a dork but I could see he had potential being a Slovak. I told him to stop swimming and running with his fag hags and start lifting and go on the Paleo ( testosterone ) diet. Luckily his fag hags all got pregnant so he started hanging out with me and some hiking buddies. One year later he has shoulders bigger than mine and muscular legs. He only needs to build more pecs and thin down in the waist . He was my bottom bitch but now he is getting cocky enuf to want to try topping. He bought a shit load of gay underwear cus he thinks he is hot now. So it is really possible
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    Aug 27, 2013 12:27 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    Jantheman said
    Alpha13 said[quote][cite]Jantheman said[/cite]
    Hang out with a butch, muscled guy for a month and copy his behavior to see if you can get into that lifestyle. Typically twinks have an ecosystem that creates and supports the soft body or vice-versa.



    Really? you think so? hanging out with a butch? mmm


    Last August I met a twink at a pool party. He called himself a dork but I could see he had potential being a Slovak. I told him to stop swimming and running with his fag hags and start lifting and go on the Paleo ( testosterone ) diet. Luckily his fag hags all got pregnant so he started hanging out with me and some hiking buddies. One year later he has shoulders bigger than mine and muscular legs. He only needs to build more pecs and thin down in the waist . He was my bottom bitch but now he is getting cocky enuf to want to try topping. He bought a shit load of gay underwear cus he thinks he is hot now. So it is really possible



    wow. hahaha thats a funny story but quite amazing though. i will try looking for those kind of people to hang out. maybe itll work for me. hehe
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    Aug 27, 2013 1:04 PM GMT
    Based on the two pics on your OP I think your chest, abs and shoulders have great potential. You might not get the giant arms you want, but you can have better arms.

    You're really going to need to focus on diet (consider paleo, and stop eating sweets, junk food and fried) and limiting cardio.

    Also, you need to stick with the gym week after week, month after month, and really learn to lift well and to get to know your body well.
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    Nivek saidBased on the two pics on your OP I think your chest, abs and shoulders have great potential. You might not get the giant arms you want, but you can have better arms.

    You're really going to need to focus on diet (consider paleo, and stop eating sweets, junk food and fried) and limiting cardio.

    Also, you need to stick with the gym week after week, month after month, and really learn to lift well and to get to know your body well.



    yea. i really need to stop eating those food. right now, im living with my parents, no car and still learning how to drive. i know when i finally move out, i can really discipline myself. argh, thats really my main dilemma right now. haha

    when i have my own place, and my own car, ill definitely take working out seriously like as in super serious! hehe

    thanks for the tips. plus ive been seeing a lot of these paleo diet lately, it seems interesting. i will definitely read more about it.

    thanks again!
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    Aug 28, 2013 12:50 AM GMT
    qshltbfntfagqkhjk saidsame feeelings when i start the gym and you're near my height. i don't really care about others though. long months before i hit the gym,i do jogging which makes me strong and fitter and that makes it easier for lifting heavy weight at the gym.



    about the exercises regime,other members will know better than me...but jogging and more foods help me in everything.


    and im really bulky now,not the beefy bulky..i mean fit bulky.


    wow thats great! i want to try jogging so bad but where i live at (the woods) its really not a good place to job. theres no even bike lanes here haha.

    but yea i will jog as well. i dont really wanna be super big. i just want to grow bigger than what i am now. and i want to be lean and fit.

    wow good for you, you dont care at all about other people. im kind of the opposite. im so awkward in every situation and even if they really dont, i feel like everyone's looking at me (not in a good way of course haha)

    but im working on that as well. being more confident and just do me. hehe

    thanks for the response.