What do gay men really think of bi men?

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    Aug 27, 2013 2:42 AM GMT
    So, if asked, I call myself 'bi',mainly as a matter of historical record. My lifetime scorecard is a pretty even 50/50 when it comes to the gender of sexual partners I've had over the past 18 years.

    Since my divorce, i think i've pretty much given up on women.

    Some guys have no problem with me saying i'm bi... But some really and truly do... Like I'm a pariah the the gay world for ever having been with women...

    Is that some kind of "heterophobia"? What is the issue?

    Discuss....
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    Aug 27, 2013 2:49 AM GMT
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    Aug 27, 2013 2:52 AM GMT
    Hot Bi and Divorced at 33... wow some life.. icon_lol.gif

    But Bi guys are in high demand when it comes to attraction.. dating wise some worry if the guy can be committed to only 1 for the rest of their life but that really depends on the person..
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    Aug 27, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    i wouldn't date one if I knew
  • killercliche

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    Aug 27, 2013 3:23 AM GMT
    Apparently in the gay world where having slept with 30 guys means you have just started in the game of life, it's the bisexual guy who is the slut with commitment issues.
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    Aug 27, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    I believe bisexuality is real. I think sexuality is extremely complex and I can see how someone could be attracted to a PERSON no matter if they are male or female.
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    Aug 27, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    I do believe bisexuality is real, with that being said I don't think I can ever date a bisexual guy, just for the fear that I would be left for a girl, that to me would be more devastating then being left for another guy.
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    Aug 27, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
    Why won't gay men love me?! I never asked to be bi. icon_cry.gif
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    Aug 27, 2013 5:13 AM GMT
    hellass saidI believe bisexuality is real. I think sexuality is extremely complex and I can see how someone could be attracted to a PERSON no matter if they are male or female.


    bingo!!!
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    Aug 27, 2013 5:32 AM GMT
    hairyandym said
    hellass saidI believe bisexuality is real. I think sexuality is extremely complex and I can see how someone could be attracted to a PERSON no matter if they are male or female.


    bingo!!!


    yeah, but nobody trusts them
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    Aug 27, 2013 5:34 AM GMT
    They are bottoms
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    Aug 27, 2013 5:36 AM GMT
    somersault said
    hairyandym said
    hellass saidI believe bisexuality is real. I think sexuality is extremely complex and I can see how someone could be attracted to a PERSON no matter if they are male or female.


    bingo!!!


    yeah, but nobody trusts them


    Sounds like a personal problem.
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    Aug 27, 2013 5:40 AM GMT
    I don't mind it. I think it is possible to like both and be able to just like people in general. There is no membership fee in order to be gay.
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    Aug 27, 2013 5:42 AM GMT
    ask any gay guy, no way I'm gonna have a relationship with someone I'm not sure he'd rather be with me or some chick in bed. he tells me he's "bi" I'm gone.

    i'm talking about dating or a relationship, not some crappy hookup
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:00 AM GMT
    somersault saidask any gay guy, no way I'm gonna have a relationship with someone I'm not sure he'd rather be with me or some chick in bed. he tells me he's "bi" I'm gone.

    i'm talking about dating or a relationship, not some crappy hookup


    My ex was fine with it. Can't lump all bi's in the same category. If that's the case then I guess all the "straight" people are right that gays are into beastiality and pedophilia.
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:07 AM GMT
    I don't have a problem with bi men. I think that they are perfectly capable of committing. In fact I know one that prefers men and ended up in a relationship with a guy.

    But I have noticed a lot of gay guys have issues with bi men. They either think that the bi guys just want to use them for sex and will ultimately commit to a woman or they just wish they were bi themselves.
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:22 AM GMT
    Lo5t5oul5 said
    somersault saidask any gay guy, no way I'm gonna have a relationship with someone I'm not sure he'd rather be with me or some chick in bed. he tells me he's "bi" I'm gone.

    i'm talking about dating or a relationship, not some crappy hookup


    My ex was fine with it. Can't lump all bi's in the same category. If that's the case then I guess all the "straight" people are right that gays are into beastiality and pedophilia.


    If you want straight men to go gay, and sort of legitimize homosexuality, or in this case bisexuality, the appearance of certain types of males and certain boyish personalities need to be objectified for the public at large. Of course by doing such will make homosexual attraction mainstream like in any Ancient culture, or the Italian Renaissance, but may bury every gay subculture, like leather or bears into oblivion.
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:24 AM GMT
    Bi guys are great as friends but not dateable! Even though a bi guy professes that he'll never go back to women, there's no guarantee. All it takes is for that one girl to turn his head and win his heart.

    In my experience, bi guys were great when I needed a booty call. And that's about it.
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:31 AM GMT
    ReluctantPromises said
    Lo5t5oul5 said
    somersault saidask any gay guy, no way I'm gonna have a relationship with someone I'm not sure he'd rather be with me or some chick in bed. he tells me he's "bi" I'm gone.

    i'm talking about dating or a relationship, not some crappy hookup


    My ex was fine with it. Can't lump all bi's in the same category. If that's the case then I guess all the "straight" people are right that gays are into beastiality and pedophilia.


    But have you met a bisexual who wants somewhat confused?

    Admittedly I'm feeding the fire. But I am so not into dating someone who also like women. Because I know he's gonna leave me for the woman.


    Isaiah, you want to be a white woman. No one is more confused than you. First you hate black guys now you love black guys, you just want the D and you don't give a damn where it comes from so just stop. icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:33 AM GMT
    Who made the rules about labels?? I like women too but I'm in a committed relationship with a man so I call myself gay. I don't know why some of you don't trust bisexual guys anyways, I don't see what the difference is.
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:33 AM GMT
    AH more gay guys judging "bi" guys. Gays claim that they are born gay and want everyone to accept them...but they wont accept "bi" men.....
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:38 AM GMT
    And as I suspect from my research and in reading other peoples testimonies, even here, if certain stress receptors in the brain are activated, along with other receptors (and of which I won't further explain and have a Nobel Prize snatched from me), even among the people in this thread, the right situations, persons or drugs, will make them go straight, or even not lisp at all. I would say this too, I abide by a very classical non-positivist model of sexual attraction and that there is no such thing as homosexuality, bisexuality or heterosexuality as we know it, but simply issues of increased and decreased sensitivities of attraction, which in no way indicates sexual performance or roles, just ones capacity to notice girls or guys at all, or as an issue of noticing one so-called gender more or less than the other. I see attraction as a very subtle but quick phenomenon, while sexual engagement and commitment with another person is a protracted one, so to presume that so-called biguys are incapable of commitment is presuming a lot in them.
  • killercliche

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    Aug 27, 2013 7:41 AM GMT
    In summary there is a special place in gay hell if you won't date the following:
    fems
    asians
    blacks
    native americans
    older
    younger
    skinny
    beefy
    short
    tall
    blonds
    brunettes
    drag queens
    HIV positive men
    bald men
    hairy men
    men with beards
    men who shave
    and
    transgender

    but not dating bisexuals? It's ok, we'll give you a pass.
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    Aug 27, 2013 7:53 AM GMT
    TheRece25 saidHot Bi and Divorced at 33... wow some life.. icon_lol.gif

    But Bi guys are in high demand when it comes to attraction.. dating wise some worry if the guy can be committed to only 1 for the rest of their life but that really depends on the person..


    So going beyond this issue of bisexuality, how about the issue of top vs bottom, or versatile? If I were to put you on the right drugs Rece, which I suspect can substantially alter your neurochemistry, at least temporarily, or even put you in the right environment, I think I can make you into a gay top, and you will be able to visualize sex or to instinctively know how to do it to the extent of porn stars, and not have any mental blocks or anxieties when it comes to it. Gay bottoms and a lot of straight guys essentially take Cialis to maintain an erection for the kind of sexual activity a gay top or a real straight man takes for granted and it's very dependent on their neurochemistry (and I can possibly explain such speculation in more scientific detail, but not now). And wouldn't it be nice Rece, if you could truly switch roles for change?

    See Rece, I took a combination of drugs that I know would have affected certain receptors in my brain, and for the first time in my life, I truly knew what it meant to want intimacy from behind... And after the state wore off, it just horrified me that I ever wanted a passive sexual role! Beyond that too, the world was perceived and processed in a very inferior way, and I felt that I was a very submissive person over all. The strength of my mind was gone, and in spite of cultivating more than two decades of virtue, had I maintained that neurochemistry, I would have doubted my capacity to have avoided something like 60 different lifetime sexual partners and accepting money for sex.

    Rece, there is also someone here who frequently goes through different moods and psychological states, enough to feel bodily sensations and subsequent activation of different receptors in his brain, that it impacts his willingness to bottom or top someone at any given moment. And he's a clear example, and without the use of drugs, how changes in his endocrine system, impacts his mind to the extent that he's more than just versatile, and can actually perform well when a certain state calls him to exclusively top or bottom someone. Unlike him though, you might be stuck, with your given state, and the subsequent sex role and overall personality that arises from it, and while I can't really explain why this other person experiences such changes in his body and neurochemistry (but it's worth an effort one day), unless you take drugs, or something catastrophic happens to you in which you survive but change a lot from, you will always be a bottom, but don't you want to change that?