Paleo ( full fat diet ) goes mainstream

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    Aug 27, 2013 9:04 AM GMT
    http://myscienceacademy.org/2012/08/19/world-renown-heart-surgeon-speaks-out-on-what-really-causes-heart-disease/
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    Aug 27, 2013 3:26 PM GMT
    Well, at least it doesn't taste like vomit!
    http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-students-first-lady-michelle-obama-food-tastes-131827085.html
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:11 PM GMT
    Basically, he's hawking his book.

    Dr. Dwight Lundell is ... He is also the author of The Cure for Heart Disease and The Great Cholesterol Lie.
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:13 PM GMT
    You can avoid heart disease by eating intelligently and you don't need to adopt the latest fad diet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo_diet
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidYou can avoid heart disease by eating intelligently and you don't need to adopt the latest fad diet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo_diet


    I just started the paleo diet actually. My intent was to do it for a month before Labor Day weekend but that didn't work out. I'm reading the actual book and its really interesting.
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:39 PM GMT
    I've heard that this book is really interesting as well:

    http://goo.gl/l90aXv
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:51 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Lumpyoatmeal said[/cite]You can avoid heart disease by eating intelligently and you don't need to adopt the latest fad diet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo_diet[/qu

    Ha, ha, eating "intelligently" you mean low fat diets ....that intelligently made America obese.
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    Aug 27, 2013 7:03 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said[quote][cite]Lumpyoatmeal said[/cite]You can avoid heart disease by eating intelligently and you don't need to adopt the latest fad diet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo_diet[/qu

    Ha, ha, eating "intelligently" you mean low fat diets ....that intelligently made America obese.


    Paleo isn't really a "low-fat" diet. You can eat fats but good ones.
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    Aug 27, 2013 7:09 PM GMT
    Roadster, I think Alpha meant the opposite. The conventional wisdom has been for people to eat low-fat (and therefore a lot of processed crap) and "healthy grains." But that hasn't exactly turned out very well for most Americans. Paleo is actually a high-fat diet -- but as you say, good fats from real foods.
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    Aug 27, 2013 7:39 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidYou can avoid heart disease by eating intelligently and you don't need to adopt the latest fad diet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo_diet


    Thank you. I don't know why it's so hard to emphasize for fresh meats (if not following a veg regimen), fresh fruits/veg, water, spices, and some minimally processed staples (rice/pasta to fill out caloric needs).

    The Paleo diet, given what I see friends follow, just seems like the Atkins diet re-branded for the 20-something Millenials (my generation) who've noticed the consequences of eating/drinking like a college student years after graduation.
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    Aug 27, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
    The Atkins diet (full fat diet) has been mainstream for almost forty years.
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    Aug 27, 2013 11:00 PM GMT
    Amelorn said

    The Paleo diet, given what I see friends follow, just seems like the Atkins diet re-branded for the 20-something Millenials (my generation) who've noticed the consequences of eating/drinking like a college student years after graduation.

    I knew Atkins diet followers back in the day and they did not eat anything like I eat with Paleo. Seems like they lived on processed meats and a piece of celery.
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    Aug 27, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
    Diets like this (keto included) provide results but are tough to stick with.

    I tried and gave up on the keto diet. I noticed results very rapidly and really felt great about being the most toned I've ever been. But it gets tricky when eating out or in social situation. The rules against sugars/carbs made going out to bars a downer. Add to that I began to have some problems at my lower end and even adding flax seed as a fiber source didn't help.
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    Aug 27, 2013 11:08 PM GMT
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    Alpha13 said[quote][cite]Lumpyoatmeal said[/cite]You can avoid heart disease by eating intelligently and you don't need to adopt the latest fad diet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo_diet[/qu

    Ha, ha, eating "intelligently" you mean low fat diets ....that intelligently made America obese.


    Paleo isn't really a "low-fat" diet. You can eat fats but good ones.



    No it's a full fat diet . I was being ironic since "thinking " one way or the other does not change the essential chemistry of the body. Food politics is responsible for the early demise of Steve Jobbs and as the article states the low fat diet has killed more people than any plague in human history .
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    Aug 27, 2013 11:09 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidThe Atkins diet (full fat diet) has been mainstream for almost forty years.




    Atkins Diet was not full fat. It was low carbohydrate and good fats, plus high quality nutritional supplements, prescribed to target the individual's needs. I was a patient of the late Dr. Robert Atkins before he past away. Now I see a doctor in Manhattan who has a similar approach, Dr. Richard Ash. There are others in NYC who have a similar approach, like Dr. Patrick Fratellone, who worked with both Atkins and Ash, as well as Dr. Andrew Weil of Arizona.
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    Aug 27, 2013 11:25 PM GMT
    Atkins suspected that low fat diets were crap but he was a doctor not a scientist so he was disrespected in his day. My friends are dead, I am healthier than ever .....so Thank You Dr Atkins for being a pioneer and getting the ball rolling and saving my life. Eating Paleo is so easy ... Just eat natural food.
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    Aug 28, 2013 3:03 AM GMT
    Blakes7 saidI was a patient of the late Dr. Robert Atkins before he past away.


    Is the myth about him dying because he was a great big obsese person who slipped and fell true?
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    Aug 28, 2013 4:08 AM GMT
    Been eating Paleomfor three years. It's not hard to stick with if you aren't just gnawing on bacon. It's not a free pass to eat all the meat and go into ketosis. It's a lifestyle change to reject grains and legumes as a staple of your diet, and moving to the foraging/hunting lifestyle of relating many vegetables that are not grains and unprocessed, having fruits for satiety, and meats and fats to stabilize blood sugars.

    If you do it correctly, and go out to restaurants and say you are gluten intolerant, most places will be approachable. And, if you can't do it, make it a cheat meal (which you should have anyway once or twice a week if just coasting and not trying to lean up).

    This bullshit about it being a fad suggests it's fleeting. As a CrossFitter for four years now, THAT'S a fad. Paleo is not; it's been around for millennia before the machinization of the food industry, researched intensively for the past 10 years, and reported now by the media to make it a fad as if it were a twerk or a hairdo.

    Eat whole, eat often and in controlled amounts, and eat fats.

    And of you want to go low fat and eat processed General Mills shit and twerk on a treadmill for 4 hours a day, then by all means to do that. But don't call the basic human drive to forage and hunt a "fad."
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    Aug 28, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    Eccomi09 saidBeen eating Paleomfor three years. It's not hard to stick with if you aren't just gnawing on bacon. ...


    But...but..but...

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    Aug 28, 2013 10:01 AM GMT
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    Blakes7 saidI was a patient of the late Dr. Robert Atkins before he past away.


    Is the myth about him dying because he was a great big obsese person who slipped and fell true?



    Atkins slipped on some ice right outside his office, hitting his head, causing massive fluid build up in his brain, from which he never recovered. Damn NYC winters. He wasn't obese. I clearly remember him, he was in his early 70s at the time, and I hardly ever saw him use the elevator. I remember him sprinting up and down the stairs a lot, and I think The Atkins Center had 6 or 7 floors, plus a basement level. The only time I saw him in the elevator was when he had a problem with his foot, and was temporarily in a wheelchair. Atkins used to play tennis with his protégé, Dr. Patrick Fratellone, who is an integrative cardiologist(among other specialties) in Manhattan with his own practice on 57th St.
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    Aug 28, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
    Seems like an awful lot of work to still look AHHHHHH!
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