WALMART TO OFFER BENEFITS TO SAME-SEX DOMESTIC PARTNERS

  • metta

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    Aug 27, 2013 6:18 PM GMT
    WALMART TO OFFER BENEFITS TO SAME-SEX DOMESTIC PARTNERS

    http://www.towleroad.com/2013/08/walmart.html
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    Aug 27, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
    This doesn't indicate that Walmart is pro gay.

    Insurance benefits are set up through major insurers, such as Blue Cross or United Health Care. Walmart puts out a RFP and gets bids. A "discriminatory benefits package" was probably not on the menu. And it would cost more if it was.


  • LJay

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    Aug 27, 2013 7:54 PM GMT
    Whatever the case, Tangiers, the fact that they are making the step is significant. It is interesting that the memo has a tone of "We are getting with the program." and that whether it is an ideological commitment to gays or not it is essentially a business decision. It is a recognition by a large business that diversity of life styles is now common.

    Individual employees and individual managers will have their own opinions but gays and those with other relationships who are included in the provisions of this memo are benefiting and the general public will be influenced in the direction of tolerance and fairness. Sounds good to me.
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    Aug 27, 2013 8:43 PM GMT
    This is taken from an internal memo, and therefore premature. Only when Walmart makes an official public announcement, and changes its company policies in writing, will we know what's actually happening in this regard. At the moment I would call this speculation.
  • DenveRyk

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    Aug 27, 2013 9:53 PM GMT
    Wal-Mart is expert at playing word games that lead one to believe something when something else altogether is actually what is being said. They recently made a big public deal about increasing sale of USA products over the next decade. A lot of people thought this was referring to selling american-made items.
    It was actually about produce.. That's right---groceries. Wal-Mart has been growing their grocery business over the last several years, and they have begun to drive smaller retailers out of business (the standard practice for Wal-Mart) So the increase in american-made goods is more like american grown produce. And on top of that, upon examination of the supposed increase (which they laid out in terms of millions of dollars actually represented a miniscule percentage of their overall business.

    So when they talk about same-sex partner bennies, it doesn't mean much at all. A miniscule portion of their massive work-force actually receive any benefits. So the percentage of those bennies going to gay folk is pretty much meaningless.

    Wal-Mart is simply engaging in a PR attempt to improve their sagging public image. The
    Wal-Mart now has more wealth than the bottom 40% of americans. Their generosity is underwhelming!
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    Aug 27, 2013 10:02 PM GMT
    ^^^^^Agreed. Beautifully and accurately stated. Anyone even considering setting foot inside a Walmart should read this piece above me three times, and then choose another store. I know a few guys will remonstrate about being on a budget. The point I'm making is there are much better places to shop to save money or stay within your budget.
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    Aug 27, 2013 10:09 PM GMT
    Jockbod48 said^^^^^Agreed. Beautifully and accurately stated. Anyone even considering setting foot inside a Walmart should read this piece above me three times, and then choose another store. I know a few guys will remonstrate about being on a budget. The point I'm making is there are much better places to shop to save money or stay within your budget.

    In this we agree (and I thought you were a rabid Right-Winger, Walmart your natural environment). I wouldn't set foot in a Walmart if it was the portal to Heaven.
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    Aug 27, 2013 11:22 PM GMT
    It's still a step in the right direction, isn't it? To my surprise because they're so cheap, my employer (not walmart, but an international utility co.) offers same sex domestic partner benefits, and we have been taking advantage of this for several years now.
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    Aug 27, 2013 11:29 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    Jockbod48 said^^^^^Agreed. Beautifully and accurately stated. Anyone even considering setting foot inside a Walmart should read this piece above me three times, and then choose another store. I know a few guys will remonstrate about being on a budget. The point I'm making is there are much better places to shop to save money or stay within your budget.

    In this we agree (and I thought you were a rabid Right-Winger, Walmart your natural environment). I wouldn't set foot in a Walmart if it was the portal to Heaven.


    Well, Walmart is no portal to Heaven, except if you're a Walton family member. I'm not really anything too rabid, although I don't care for Obama and thought his election was unfortunate. I've said for years I thought Dianne Feinstein would have been an excellent president. I was in college when she took over as mayor of SF, and saw firsthand how well she managed the crisis there, and to this day - how well she manages her responsibilities in the senate. She could have run this country and brought various factions together better than a whole lot of people IMO. But I digress...........
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    Aug 27, 2013 11:35 PM GMT
    denveryk saidWal-Mart is expert at playing word games that lead one to believe something when something else altogether is actually what is being said. They recently made a big public deal about increasing sale of USA products over the next decade. A lot of people thought this was referring to selling american-made items.
    It was actually about produce.. That's right---groceries. Wal-Mart has been growing their grocery business over the last several years, and they have begun to drive smaller retailers out of business (the standard practice for Wal-Mart) So the increase in american-made goods is more like american grown produce. And on top of that, upon examination of the supposed increase (which they laid out in terms of millions of dollars actually represented a miniscule percentage of their overall business.

    So when they talk about same-sex partner bennies, it doesn't mean much at all. A miniscule portion of their massive work-force actually receive any benefits. So the percentage of those bennies going to gay folk is pretty much meaningless.

    Wal-Mart is simply engaging in a PR attempt to improve their sagging public image. The
    Wal-Mart now has more wealth than the bottom 40% of americans. Their generosity is underwhelming!


    +1 The world would be much better off if WalMart miraculously disappeared entirely.
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    Aug 28, 2013 12:13 AM GMT
    Why do you say that? People can find many needed things at reasonable prices there. Not everyone can afford to go to Neiman Marcus.
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    Aug 28, 2013 12:22 AM GMT
    Blakes7 saidWhy do you say that? People can find many needed things at reasonable prices there. Not everyone can afford to go to Neiman Marcus.


    Why??? Check out the facts regarding their labor practices (they pay so little that more and more of their employees can't afford to shop there), the number of lawsuits filed because of their labor practices (making people work 'off the clock' to keep their hours/wages down, gender discrimination, dangerous working conditions, and on and on), the fact that they move into an area, sell at initially low prices until they force other businesses out of the marketplace and then raise their prices, the fact that they keep demanding that suppliers lower theirr prices, which means that the supplier then lowers what they pay their workers, and so the downward spiral into the toilet continues, while the Waltons rake in tons of money; once you have looked into these situations, you might understand better why Wal-Mart can be considered in incarnation of evil.

    And in case you aren't aware of this little fact, there is an entire universe of difference between Wal-Mart and Neiman Marcus. They don't even sell the same types of products!
  • Timbales

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    Aug 28, 2013 12:27 AM GMT
    If you shop at Walmart, watch the documentary "Walmart: The High Price of Low Cost".
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    Aug 28, 2013 12:46 AM GMT
    Silly liberal gays, you already voted to cut off spousal benefits when you supported obama.

    Walmart will eventually either follow UPS and drop spousal benefits or drop all healthcare coverage and pay the federal fine to save money.

    Goodluck on medicaid guys.



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    Aug 28, 2013 1:08 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidSilly liberal gays, you already voted to cut off spousal benefits when you supported obama.

    Walmart will eventually either follow UPS and drop spousal benefits or drop all healthcare coverage and pay the federal fine to save money.

    Goodluck on medicaid guys.

    If you really cared about the issue, you would know UPS only dropped benefits for spouses who could get coverage through their own employer. Other companies started doing that before Obama ever became president.
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    Aug 28, 2013 1:53 AM GMT
    Gratuitous in WalMart land. How about real wages and fair treatment?
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    Aug 28, 2013 2:01 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidSilly liberal gays, you already voted to cut off spousal benefits when you supported obama.

    And who are the Republican candidates who DID support spousal benefits?

    Obama led the repeal of DADT, and is giving spousal benefits to members of the armed forces, over Republican objections. Now part of DOMA is gone, thanks to the Obama DOJ. And your Republicans did exactly WHAT for gay spousal benefits? Please list those accomplishments for us.
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    Aug 28, 2013 2:24 AM GMT
    Wait, wait, wait!
    They are only doing this because no one gay works there..
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    Aug 28, 2013 2:28 AM GMT
    prancer saidGratuitous in WalMart land. How about real wages and fair treatment?


    How true!

    My aunt was t-boned and her car totaled by a Walmart worker running a red light. The worker had NO INSURANCE...which is a direct cause of the pitiful low wages they pay their workers.

    So my aunt paid the $500 deductible plus $800 for a rental car, which is normally paid for by the at fault driver's insurance. This is above the fact that Walmart workers are also the largest group of welfare moochers in the world. Their health insurance doesn't cover workers who do less than 40 hours. Those uninsured Walmart workers show up at community hospitals, and your taxes foot the bill. And they're good at it....because Walmart trains its workers how to apply for public assistance.

    So yeah...the Walton trust fund babies are in the top ten of Forbes 400. But they get there by socializing costs of their business. Reprehensible.

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    Aug 29, 2013 9:44 PM GMT
    I tried to fact check some of the claims made in this thread. This is all I found.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/dec/06/alan-grayson/alan-grayson-says-more-walmart-employees-medicaid-/
    It seems Walmart suffers from being a retailer and the nations largest private employer.
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    Aug 31, 2013 3:23 PM GMT
    Philibuster saidI tried to fact check some of the claims made in this thread. This is all I found.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/dec/06/alan-grayson/alan-grayson-says-more-walmart-employees-medicaid-/
    It seems Walmart suffers from being a retailer and the nations largest private employer.



    No. It means the social costs people pay (in higher taxes + throngs of PERPETUALLY BROKE WALMART WORKERS who can't pay their own way) are much MUCH larger.

    My aunt was out $1,300 (deductible and rental car) thanks to a $7.75/hr Walmart worker who ran a red light with NO CAR INSURANCE. Walmart has done the most to "normalize" this type of irresponsible corporate behavior.
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    Aug 31, 2013 4:24 PM GMT
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    Philibuster saidI tried to fact check some of the claims made in this thread. This is all I found.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/dec/06/alan-grayson/alan-grayson-says-more-walmart-employees-medicaid-/
    It seems Walmart suffers from being a retailer and the nations largest private employer.



    No. It means the social costs people pay (in higher taxes + throngs of PERPETUALLY BROKE WALMART WORKERS who can't pay their own way) are much MUCH larger.

    My aunt was out $1,300 (deductible and rental car) thanks to a $7.75/hr Walmart worker who ran a red light with NO CAR INSURANCE. Walmart has done the most to "normalize" this type of irresponsible corporate behavior.

    I'm sorry that happened to your aunt.
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    Aug 31, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    Diabolical. Running a business and having the US government subsidizing you! icon_surprised.gif
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    Aug 31, 2013 4:43 PM GMT
    When you think about what a miserable place Walmart is to shop in, think about how disgusting it must be to actually work there. Those poor clerks get paid so little, and have to put up with so much shit dished out to them by their 'employer'. What makes it worse is to think about the money the Walton family has made off the backs of the poorest among us. Look up the fortunes of the Walton family for yourselves. You'll see how cruel and inhuman it is that those employees aren't paid a decent salary with benefits. The Waltons can never spend all the money they have - yet they continue to treat and pay their employees like shit. We all should never, ever shop there. I'd love to see that miserable chain fail and disappear, but it won't happen as long as people on a budget think they're saving money by going to Walmart. They don't think of the real cost to society as a whole.
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    Aug 31, 2013 4:55 PM GMT
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    Jockbod48 said^^^^^Agreed. Beautifully and accurately stated. Anyone even considering setting foot inside a Walmart should read this piece above me three times, and then choose another store. I know a few guys will remonstrate about being on a budget. The point I'm making is there are much better places to shop to save money or stay within your budget.

    In this we agree (and I thought you were a rabid Right-Winger, Walmart your natural environment). I wouldn't set foot in a Walmart if it was the portal to Heaven.


    You see, when one assumes.... (you know the rest).