Exceeding macros

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    Aug 27, 2013 7:35 PM GMT
    So yesterday I ate over 500g protein in one day!

    I'm currently trying to hit about 4000cal a day (mostly managing. However I'm trying not to make it too much of fat or carbs. Various sources have taught me the following rules/myths of protein below.

    1. Your body can absorb only 30-40g per day
    2. Try to get 1.5-2x grams per kilo/pound body weight
    3. Eat as much as you can

    So once I hit a suggested macro for protein should I:

    1. Stop eating protein, your body cant handle no more
    2. Keep going til I hit the caloric goal

    Serious advice much appreciated. If youre going to criticise the aspect of calorie counting etc, please refrain. Its not something I usually do, but I'm currently taking a look at my current diet.
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    Aug 27, 2013 7:46 PM GMT
    Do you mean your body can only use 40g protein in one sitting? I've heard that, but not in a day.

    But I've read plenty of information stating that is false but either way, its not difficult to space out your protein consumption over the course of a day to satisfy both sides of the argument.

    Its also a myth that excessive protein is bad for your kidneys unless you have pre-existing renal problems in which case lots of things are bad for you that dont apply to regular kidneys.

    However 500g is hugely excessive. How are you eating 500g? Red meats? Foods high in sodium? Because eating unhealthy with lots of protein is still unhealthy. If you're going to eat a certain diet long term, moderation and reason are needed otherwise you'll just end up quitting.
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    Aug 27, 2013 7:56 PM GMT
    uoft23 saidDo you mean your body can only use 40g protein in one sitting? I've heard that, but not in a day.

    But I've read plenty of information stating that is false but either way, its not difficult to space out your protein consumption over the course of a day to satisfy both sides of the argument.

    Its also a myth that excessive protein is bad for your kidneys unless you have pre-existing renal problems in which case lots of things are bad for you that dont apply to regular kidneys.

    However 500g is hugely excessive. How are you eating 500g? Red meats? Foods high in sodium? Because eating unhealthy with lots of protein is still unhealthy. If you're going to eat a certain diet long term, moderation and reason are needed otherwise you'll just end up quitting.


    Yeah spaced out over day.
    Heard the kidney thing too, but as long as you drink plenty water and have low sodium is grand.

    I hit 500g kinda by accident:
    Porridge with milk and whey
    4 scrambled eggs
    250g (raw weight) chicken breast
    2 whey protein (+milk) shakes
    250g (raw weight) chicken

    There was plenty other things in there too, but that's the main protein sources and all reasonably healthy - unless youre a yolk hater ;)
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    Aug 27, 2013 10:35 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidThe weight of a 250g chicken breast does not equate to 250 grams of protein. A 100g serving of chicken breast (raw) is roughly twenty-seven grams. So you probably got around sixty-seven grams of protein. Since you did this twice you consumed roughly 134g of protein from chicken breast.



    Well obviously 250g raw chicken is not 250g protein, I was just providing details as to how I managed it
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    Aug 27, 2013 10:45 PM GMT
    You can enter a food and quantity or a whole meal plan into this site and it will tell you the nutritional content
    http://nutritiondata.self.com/

    Too much protein is potentially dangerous
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation

    The 40g limit in one sitting only applies to protein powder. Real food protein digests s-l-o-w-l-y so you can do more.

    There is no reason to limit healthy fat. This will help you get to 4000cal with less stress on your body, and still get plenty of protein.

    You might find that if you do not do a small amount of healthy starch with each meal you might have a drop in energy and concentration.

    If you don't eat your veggies you'll be malnourished. Green veggies have almost no calories but have lots of nutrients and fiber.
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    Oct 18, 2013 3:01 PM GMT
    Your body is just going to start using the gluconeogenesis pathway to convert excess protein in ATP and subsequently glycogen, which is very taxing on the kidneys. Why not just up fat intake from coconut sources, and carbs around workout times?

    this is a good article about macros

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/protein-energy-and-function-macro-revolution.html