Another race thread.... hold onto your hats!!

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    Aug 31, 2013 1:31 PM GMT
    Thought this was a very interesting study. These maps show the racial segregation in cities across America. Detroit is fucking shocking!

    White: blue dots
    African American: green dots
    Asian: red
    Latino: orange
    all others: brown

    I've love to see a comparison with British cities.

    http://www.wired.com/design/2013/08/how-segregated-is-your-city-this-eye-opening-map-shows-you/
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:37 PM GMT
    You know what's not shocking?
    Another anti-American post by gayinterest.
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:37 PM GMT
    wait, point out to me where I criticise America?

    I spot a little bit of insecurity from this American here...
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:39 PM GMT
    Woah! that's insane! icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:40 PM GMT
    Sorry I must have misunderstood your usage of the term "racial segregation."
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:41 PM GMT
    I directly quoted the term "racial segregation" from the source

    Grow up, grow some testicles and come out the closet, you big pansy.
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:45 PM GMT
    Stop fighting...icon_evil.gif
    If you fight for simple things, you can't stand big ones.
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:45 PM GMT
    You're a phony, gayinterest. Everyone sees it.
    You go straight to the name calling as soon as someone disagrees with you and you call *me* insecure?
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:48 PM GMT
    "disagrees with"?
    There's been no disagreement in this thread. Just you attacking me.

    You BIG pansy.
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:51 PM GMT
    Anyway, isn't it nuts that all the blacks live on one side of 8mile and all the whites on t'other?

    That saddens me.
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:51 PM GMT
    I wonder how many people will use this map to navigate themselves throughout cities so they don't have to run into any "minorities" icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 31, 2013 1:56 PM GMT
    The racial segregation is really a segregation of economics, rather than any attempt to live among your own race kind-of-thing.

    The division is along 8 mile road. At least from what I understood of 8 mile from the interviews with Eminem, one side is poorer, and the other has more affluence.

    Historically in the US, blacks have been disproportionately poorer than whites. We don't have to go into the cyclical nature as to why that is. But this map is really nothing more than a division of economic status.
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    Aug 31, 2013 2:09 PM GMT
    ReluctantPromises saidI don't get the point of this. Are we all supposed to live in the same neighborhoods? In America ethnic groups tend to stick together because they share a common identity.


    What about the common identity of the American flag.

    Actually racial segregation does create social inequalities and higher crimes rates.

    If you looked at a map of America in 1913 and had a different coloured dot for jews, italians, irish, germans and WASPs you would probably have gotten a similary divided colour map, since however most european ethnic groups have intermarried and now share a common "American" ancestry.

    Unfortunately race is more harder to assimilate, and it'll take another few generations for America to mix up.
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    Aug 31, 2013 2:14 PM GMT
    In my London borough of Waltham Forest we're represented by numerous races and nationalities. You just have to take a walk down our main street to see the evidence. And it's beautiful.

    2001 Census Demographics
    Total 2001 Population: 90502
    Born outside UK: 28.3%
    White: 59.2% (bearing in mind many of these white people are non-British, i.e. 1st gen European immigrant)
    Black: 17%
    Asian: 17.8%
    Mixed: 3.9%
    Other: 2.1%
    Christian: 52.8%
    Hindu: 2.3%
    Jewish: 0.6%
    Muslim: 18%


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    Aug 31, 2013 2:22 PM GMT
    ReluctantPromises saidI don't get the point of this. Are we all supposed to live in the same neighborhoods? In America ethnic groups tend to stick together because they share a common identity.


    Yes, because when you live in a mixed neighbourhood, ignorant prejudices about other races are broken down. People have a lot in common with other people if you take a chance to speak with them.
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    Aug 31, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
    creature saidThe racial segregation is really a segregation of economics, rather than any attempt to live among your own race kind-of-thing.

    The division is along 8 mile road. At least from what I understood of 8 mile from the interviews with Eminem, one side is poorer, and the other has more affluence.

    Historically in the US, blacks have been disproportionately poorer than whites. We don't have to go into the cyclical nature as to why that is. But this map is really nothing more than a division of economic status.


    That plays to it but it really isn't all about economics. And the part that is economics is in itself probably racial. Those two topics tend towards the inextricable.

    I was 1st raised in a town that still had on the books (I don't believe my parents knew it at the time) that black people had to be out of town by 6 pm or something like that. I only learned that a few years ago. But I did know at the time, of course, that not a single black person lived there. We had only one Asian family move in the year we coincidentally moved out. Currently the town has a huge Korean population.

    We moved to the Caribbean on an island which was probably 85-95% black. From there we moved to Florida and that's where I learned about segregation because first I lived with no black people, then with mostly black people, but in Florida the divides were so obvious and clear cut. Plus that was right when schools were desegregated so mine was closed down a few times by riots.

    I remember from back in the 70s one thing that struck me odd while exploring Miami. I had gotten lost in what looked like a very nice middle class area. But I was the only white person there. And then as I'm driving it suddenly turned white again. There was no difference in the housing, all the yards were nicely landscaped and in good order, cars kept well, the only difference was the color of the people. It stuck me then that the divide had nothing to do with money.

    I got so tired of living in south Florida that after I lost my mom I relocated to a more racially integrated area. I see more interracial couples here, it seems more real to me, more comfortable for me than living in white bread world.
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    Aug 31, 2013 2:34 PM GMT
    ReluctantPromises said
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    ReluctantPromises saidI don't get the point of this. Are we all supposed to live in the same neighborhoods? In America ethnic groups tend to stick together because they share a common identity.


    Yes, because when you live in a mixed neighbourhood, ignorant prejudices about other races are broken down. People have a lot in common with other people if you take a chance to speak with them.


    Sure but then again who cares? I feel as if multiculturalism is a pipe dream. So as long as people don't kill one another I don't care if they self segregate.


    This is a sad way to see the world.
    And my videos above and below show that multiculturalism CAN and DOES work in parts of the UK.



    Similarly to antijock, I experienced different types of integration and segregation in my lifetime. From living in an almost entirely white suburb of Houston TX, to going to international schools in asia where everyone was completely integrated and represented around 30 nationalities. We had "International Day" to celebrate and experience all the nationalities represented. Then I moved to the UK where I saw much more racial integration in neighbourhoods than Houston; and it felt like home.

    Integration eradicates racism, and I strongly believe in it.

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    Aug 31, 2013 2:35 PM GMT
    I strongly believe that any problem can be solved by Education, not just literal education, but by Moral education and moral education alone can solve every problem which almost every nation is failing to dedicate their lifestyles towards morals/ethics.
    If you want to solve any problem that is present today and planning to stop it, start with kids, start by teaching them morals.

    As it is said
    "everything(every attempt we give) goes in vain without the moral education to the masses. We should focus & involve ourselves in learning & teaching morality."
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    Aug 31, 2013 2:47 PM GMT
    I think experience is the best education one can get.
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    Aug 31, 2013 3:02 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidYou know what's not shocking?
    Another anti-American post by gayinterest.


    eh just a loser Brit trying to vindicate himself from 1000 years of hell the English have imposed on the wrold
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    Aug 31, 2013 3:08 PM GMT
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    JohnSpotter saidYou know what's not shocking?
    Another anti-American post by gayinterest.


    eh just a loser Brit trying to vindicate himself from 1000 years of hell the English have imposed on the wrold


    snore...
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    You got anything intelligent, insightful and worthwhile to contribute to the discussion?
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    Aug 31, 2013 4:51 PM GMT
    WASHINGTON (AFP) — The three main minorities in the United States -- blacks, Hispanics and Asians -- have little trust for each other and hold prejudiced views about Americans of different ethnic origins to their own, a poll showed Wednesday.
    "This extraordinary poll reveals some unflattering realities that exist in America today," said Sandy Close, head of new America Media (NAM) which sponsored the poll together with ethnic media groups.
    Forty-four percent of Hispanics and 47 percent of Asians are "afraid of African-Americans because they are responsible for most of the crime," the survey of 1,105 adults drawn from the three ethnic groups showed.
    More than half of black Americans polled and 46 percent of Hispanics said Asian business owners do not treat them with respect.
    And half of African-Americans said Latin American immigrants "are taking jobs, housing and political power away from the black community."
    Hispanics and Asians, whose populations are made up mainly of immigrants, were positive about the American dream, saying that those who work hard in the United States reap the rewards of their toil.
    In contrast, more than 60 percent of African-Americans dismissed the American dream as not working for them.
    All three ethnic groups viewed white Americans in a more favorable light than they did members of another minority.
    Sixty-one percent of Hispanics, 54 percent of Asians and 47 percent of African-Americans said they would rather do business with whites than members of the other two groups.
    "The poll reaffirms that while race relations between ethnic groups and whites grab the headlines, there are also serious racial problems between minority groups in America," said Sergio Bendixen, an expert on Hispanic and multilingual polling.
    "Blacks feel they are left out of the American Dream and are being displaced by newcomers, and each group buys into the negative stereotypes about the other two," he said.
    The three minority groups did agree that the United States would be a better place if blacks, Asians and Hispanics held more authoritative positions at universities, in business, media and government.
    They also said they believe racial tensions in the United States will ease over the next 10 years.


    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j6qHU0LD6MvZS2pj_v1XTg6OOk2A
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    Aug 31, 2013 5:56 PM GMT
    Minority groups are less trustful for each other, that's the point for the article. I had personal experience myself.
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    Aug 31, 2013 7:42 PM GMT
    ok ladies. everyone simmer down here.

    This is not news to anyone. .
    America self-segregates like cray, hello. Like, duh icon_rolleyes.gif

    It's kinda always been like that. What's to discuss about it?
    How can we prevent it? Or rather-- why do we self-segregate? Or maybe... it class segregation.

    Perhaps this is just another stupid fucking race thread that will lead to unproductive conversations and a bunch of u will be butt-hurt and have your feelings hurt. waaah.



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    Aug 31, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
    Import saidok ladies. everyone simmer down here.

    This is not news to anyone. .
    America self-segregates like cray, hello. Like, duh icon_rolleyes.gif

    It's kinda always been like that. What's to discuss about it?
    How can we prevent it? Or rather-- why do we self-segregate? Or maybe... it class segregation.

    Perhaps this is just another stupid fucking race thread that will lead to unproductive conversations and a bunch of u will be butt-hurt and have your feelings hurt. waaah.






    If a person can't handle it productively, they should stick out of it. So far, it's only been 2 pages and everything looks fair despite the other comments.