Harvard University examines the gun control issue

  • maxferguson

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    Sep 03, 2013 3:10 AM GMT
    Just when you thought the gun-control horse had been shot to death, and interesting paper comes out of Harvard.

    On page 5, within the U.S.
    “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest.”

    http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
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    Sep 03, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
    maxferguson saidJust when you thought the gun-control horse had been shot to death, and interesting paper comes out of Harvard.

    On page 5, within the U.S.
    “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest.”

    http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf




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    Sep 03, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
    Interesting read. They speculate that the drop in homicide in the USA could be due to our extraordinary rate of incarceration. We could be on the verge of finding out whether that is true.

    Apparently the suicide rate in Russia has gone up proportionally with homicide. I wonder how these statistics are linked.
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    Sep 03, 2013 6:37 PM GMT
    When was the last time Harvard egg heads came up with something meaningful.
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    Sep 03, 2013 7:06 PM GMT
    DanTexThis is not a "Harvard study". It's a non-peer-reviewed article written in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, which is a conservative Law Review edited by right-wing Harvard Law students. The people who wrote it do not appear to be trained in even the most rudimentary statistical techniques. And on top of that, there are actual factual errors and bad data. This "study" would never have made it through a peer review.
    There are actual peer-reviewed "Harvard studies" on gun violence, and they generally come to the opposite conclusion than this piece of garbage.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/117264314
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    Sep 03, 2013 7:27 PM GMT
    maxferguson saidJust when you thought the gun-control horse had been shot to death, and interesting paper comes out of Harvard.

    On page 5, within the U.S.
    “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest.”

    http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf


    However... http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/
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    Sep 03, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    DanTexThis is not a "Harvard study". It's a non-peer-reviewed article written in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, which is a conservative Law Review edited by right-wing Harvard Law students. The people who wrote it do not appear to be trained in even the most rudimentary statistical techniques. And on top of that, there are actual factual errors and bad data. This "study" would never have made it through a peer review.
    There are actual peer-reviewed "Harvard studies" on gun violence, and they generally come to the opposite conclusion than this piece of garbage.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/117264314


    Indeed, an 'interesting paper'.
  • maxferguson

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    Sep 03, 2013 9:42 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    DanTexThis is not a "Harvard study". It's a non-peer-reviewed article written in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, which is a conservative Law Review edited by right-wing Harvard Law students. The people who wrote it do not appear to be trained in even the most rudimentary statistical techniques. And on top of that, there are actual factual errors and bad data. This "study" would never have made it through a peer review.
    There are actual peer-reviewed "Harvard studies" on gun violence, and they generally come to the opposite conclusion than this piece of garbage.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/117264314


    Good catch. Worth further digging. The peer review thing kind of bothers me. I should also qualify that I'm not choosing sides with or against the paper, rather just sharing an intriguing find.
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    Sep 03, 2013 10:41 PM GMT
    maxferguson saidGood catch. Worth further digging. The peer review thing kind of bothers me. I should also qualify that I'm not choosing sides with or against the paper, rather just sharing an intriguing find.

    The alarm bells in my head went off when I saw it was an anti gun control paper from Harvard. If it had been from the Hoover Institute at Stanford or from one of the Christian colleges that wouldn't have been unexpected. I worked at UC Berkeley, a definitely left wing school, and I never had the impression that Harvard was a right wing school. So I suspected that it was from one of the right wing groups at Harvard. We had them at UC Berkeley as well.