The danger of science denial

  • secondstartot...

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    Sep 03, 2013 4:57 PM GMT
    just watched this talk....this guy speaks so well and I think has a very very good point to make
    so I just thought I must share it...see what you think

  • Bunjamon

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    Sep 03, 2013 11:14 PM GMT
    It's a very interesting talk that I think a lot of people could benefit from watching. Especially the guys who spend all that money on the vitamins that GNC touts whenever you happen to go in there to buy whey powder.
  • Jubadiju

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    Sep 03, 2013 11:30 PM GMT
    Good talk. I get sucked into the fear talk sometimes. Need to spend more time researching the studies
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    Sep 04, 2013 6:15 AM GMT
    I completely agree with the speaker. He is quite eloquent and yet blunt about what all this fear about the unknown is costing us as a society. Support rational science!
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    Sep 04, 2013 3:25 PM GMT
    I also don't buy into a lot of the "health food" supplements and I've a cousin in the business who keeps pushing it on me so I change the subject as it arises to avoid that conflict.

    But this guy should have qualified his statement on vitamin supplementation as not all of that is scientifically disproven, particularly for those of us who are vegetarians and don't get the same nutrients as omnivores, never mind also in certain conditions, like poverty and universal aging, where some vitamin supplementation like the B's become important to wellbeing.
    Dietary supplements, often containing vitamins, are used to ensure that adequate amounts of nutrients are obtained on a daily basis, if optimal amounts of the nutrients cannot be obtained through a varied diet. Scientific evidence supporting the benefits of some vitamin supplements is well established for certain health conditions, but others need further study...
    Deficiencies of the vitamins folate, B(12) , and B(6) are associated with neurological and psychological dysfunction and with congenital defects. In the elderly, cognitive impairment and incident dementia may be related to the high prevalence of inadequate B vitamin status...
  • Beeftastic

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    Sep 04, 2013 7:54 PM GMT
    I agree with the general premise of his argument, but he in a way commits the same error by generalizing the arguments on the other side.

    There is a lot of scientific evidence for vitamin supplementation. Here's an article in SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN (!) that covers the dramatic amount of Vitamin D deficiency in the USA. I have been vitamin D deficient in the past.

    And there are a lot of reasons to be suspicious of genetically modified foods. Not because they are inherently bad, but because there is no requirement in the FDA for testing the safety of new strains of GMO food. That's like trusting a drug company to have it's own testing and approval mechanism for new drugs, without a government authority to watch over it. There is bound to be some really nasty unintended consequences that come from that someday.

    CBS NewsQ: Does the FDA test these foods before they’re allowed on the market?

    A: No. Instead there is a voluntary consultation process. Genetically engineered foods are overseen by the FDA, but there is no approval process. Foods are presumed to be safe unless the FDA has evidence to the contrary, Jaffe says. The FDA “has to show that there may be a problem with the food, as opposed to the company needing to prove it’s safe to FDA’s satisfaction before it can get on the market,” he says.