Percentage of gay & bi

  • beaujangle

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    Nov 20, 2008 12:15 AM GMT
    With quite a few threads on going after straight guys, I now wonder what percentage of gay/ bi men are there. Some say it's 10% but I think it's kinda high. I can't imagine in a lecture room of 200 students, 20 is gay.

    Any idea?
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    Nov 20, 2008 12:44 AM GMT
    Actually most studies suggest the proportion of gay males with a college degree is higher than the average population so if you were to take it from a sample in a lecture theater it would higher than 10%if that were normal.
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    Nov 20, 2008 12:48 AM GMT
    I see that figure (10%) quoted a lot, but I also read it's inaccurate. It has something to do with men who had sex with other men but didn't consider themselves gay also made it into that 10%.

    It's pretty difficult to count since sexuality is not a black/white thing. Everyone has a gay side of varying degree.
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    Nov 20, 2008 2:52 AM GMT
    There are no straight or gay guys, only bisexuals in denial.
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    Nov 20, 2008 2:57 AM GMT
    hallelujah
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    Nov 20, 2008 4:32 AM GMT
    What riptjock said icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 20, 2008 4:40 AM GMT
    I'm not gay...my penis and mouth and basically entire body are just allergic to women.
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    Nov 20, 2008 4:50 AM GMT
    SinNombre saidI'm not gay...my penis and mouth and basically entire body are just allergic to women.


    Me too. Except I used to be straight, but I developed this allergy from overdosing on Flintstone vitamins as a kid.
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    Nov 20, 2008 4:53 AM GMT
    I was channel surfing the other night and saw a very religious family on a sow called 18 and counting. A family with 18 kids and one on the way-her poor uterus. Anyway, how many of their kids are gay/bi?? Gotta be at least 2 in the bunch. Poor kids.
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    Nov 20, 2008 4:56 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike said... on a sow called 18 and counting. ...


    Freudian slip? Double entendre? Or Prophetic Typo?
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    Nov 20, 2008 5:05 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidI was channel surfing the other night and saw a very religious family on a sow called 18 and counting. A family with 18 kids and one on the way-her poor uterus. Anyway, how many of their kids are gay/bi?? Gotta be at least 2 in the bunch. Poor kids.


    icon_eek.gif Thats 13 and a half years pregnant.
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    Nov 20, 2008 1:34 PM GMT
    Let see the answer has something to do with college degrees, an over fertilized uterus, allergies and denial...

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    Nov 20, 2008 2:38 PM GMT
    beaujangle saidWith quite a few threads on going after straight guys, I now wonder what percentage of gay/ bi men are there. Some say it's 10% but I think it's kinda high. I can't imagine in a lecture room of 200 students, 20 is gay.

    Any idea?



    9% of guys are completely same-sex attracted, 13% of guys are by leaning toward attractions to the same sex, 9% of guys are bi and could swing both ways, and 32% of guys are bi leaning toward attractions in the opposite sex.


    http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/ak-hhscale.html


    The number seems comparatively big I know but you have to take a few things into consideration. First, the larger percentage of guys have no desire to be openly "gay", thus creating the illusion that there are few men with same sex attractions. Second, and this is true for bi guys leaning toward the opposite sex and the guys who are equally bi, guys who have an attraction to females as well as a male will likely choose a female mate to avoid all of the stigma that comes from choosing a same sex mate.
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    Nov 20, 2008 2:48 PM GMT
    As long as there is antigay bias in this country, there will always be a significant percentage of participants in a study that will falsely say they are straight or at best bisexual due to selfdenial, homophobia, shame, or simple fear that the response may become publicized at some point. (There is a statistically large enough percent of the population that believes that the promise of anonymity is not true.)
    For this reason, estimates are usually projected upwards. What would be interesting, is how that upwards projection is determined. I'm not referring to margin of error here.
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    Nov 20, 2008 2:51 PM GMT
    riptjock saidThere are no straight or gay guys, only bisexuals in denial.



    ever so slightly complete and utter shit!

    i'm a pure breed, 100%. always have been, always will! wouldn't want it any other way.
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    Nov 20, 2008 3:14 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidI was channel surfing the other night and saw a very religious family on a sow called 18 and counting. A family with 18 kids and one on the way-her poor uterus. Anyway, how many of their kids are gay/bi?? Gotta be at least 2 in the bunch. Poor kids.


    There's a 5% chance that the first born male of a family is gay, but every male son after that has an incremental 5% greater chance of being gay. So, if half of her kids were male, her ninth child would have a 45% chance of being gay.. I'd say she actually likely has a few or more.

    I've forgotten a lot of stats about homosexual behavior. The amount of males that have experimented with homosexual activity is much higher the people suspect. I want to say 30% of males. It was significantly higher among WW2 vets, something above 50%. Seems that males under stress seek to bond with their close friends to relieve anxiety and form closer protective bonds. Defensive mechanism possibly. The greeks took advantage of homosexual bonding by making an all gay couples elite squad, knowing that gay men protecting their partners were the fiercest opponents. There's a bunch of info out there about how much more gay our species is then it likes to admit.

    Our species as a whole I believe is bisexual. We are more like the Bonobos monkeys then we are like chimps. On an interpersonal level, when we meet people, we're friendly and inviting. Look at most any primate culture that doesn't have some form of bisexual bonding and you'd realize that friendly male behavior doesn't happen. The more rigid the heterosexuality, the more competitive and violent interactions become.

    That said, I personally don't feel much attraction to many of the females I see. Occasionally it does happen, but rarely.
  • SpartanJock

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    Nov 20, 2008 3:54 PM GMT
    I agree that the 10% figure is based on Kinsey's studies. It is the most oft quoted because it is actually the most thorough study on this subject, even more recent studies. Many people do actually believe that sexuality is fluid, hence 'bi-curiosity', and there are many shades of grey.

    Personally, I sit squarely in the attracted to men only (or 99% anyway) category. While the female form can be beautiful, I find heterosexuality to be an intriguing concept. icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 20, 2008 4:09 PM GMT
    riptjock saidThere are no straight or gay guys, only bisexuals in denial.


    I'm not in denial... I've just never had a strings-free opportunity to play/experiment with a woman. icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 20, 2008 8:52 PM GMT
    If scientific studies are correct, and sexual orientation is determined mainly by the influence of hormones in utero, then it is impossible to ever come up with any idea of how many guys in the world are hetero, homo, or bi. Some families seem to have a lot (I know of one family with six kids and three are gay) and others have only one or two in several generations.

    According to the President of Iran, there are certain countries that do not have gay men, it is a problem of decadent Western societies. icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 20, 2008 9:00 PM GMT
    kinsey report says 11%. but acording to a search which has made in the university students of TURKEY , 5% of the students say yes to this question: have you ever been attracted to a same sex.
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    Nov 20, 2008 9:23 PM GMT
    hmmm, well let's put this together then:

    If 10% of the male population is gay and 5% would consider or have had "gay" sex...
    then it is quite possibly safe to say that 10% of the female population is lesbian and 5% have or would have "lesbisan" sex, then certainly 85% of females are straight
    ...which equates to 100% of the population having had dick at some point in there sexual lives!! icon_eek.gif

    Who say's nobody likes a dick?


    10% Gay + 5% Bi Men = 15%
    85% of Females are straight...

    15 + 85 = 100


    nuff said!! icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 20, 2008 9:42 PM GMT
    I think every guy is gay, they just don't know it icon_wink.gif
  • DJZ77

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    Nov 20, 2008 9:58 PM GMT
    BodyWork4 said

    Who say's nobody likes a dick?


    10% Gay + 5% Bi Men = 15%
    85% of Females are straight...

    15 + 85 = 100


    nuff said!! icon_wink.gif


    I like your logic... Hey the math has been done! Count me in... ha ha icon_lol.gif
  • UFJocknerd

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    Nov 20, 2008 10:10 PM GMT
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    9% of guys are completely same-sex attracted, 13% of guys are by leaning toward attractions to the same sex, 9% of guys are bi and could swing both ways, and 32% of guys are bi leaning toward attractions in the opposite sex.


    http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/ak-hhscale.html


    Where are those numbers from? That link only goes to the Kinsey Institute's main page on the Kinsey Scale.

    "10%" is attributed to Kinsey and colleagues, but nowhere in Sexual Behavior in the Human Male did they every actually say anything like that. In fact, the very idea stands opposed to one of the central theses of the Kinsey Report (that the world is not "to be divided into sheep and goats"). The Kinsey Report speaks more to the construction of sexuality and much less to being able to plop people into one of 7 categories.

    National sampling from the 90's put the number of self-identified LGB persons at 1.5% of the total population (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael & Michaels, 1994).

    But, it all really depends on what question you're asking. "How many people call themselves gay?" Not many. "How many men have had sexual relations with another man?" More. "How many men have some degree of physical attraction to some other men?" More.
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    Nov 20, 2008 10:17 PM GMT
    The 10% figure for gays is popular, but then we have a tendency to arbitrarily round things into the base-10 number system. Many college student GLBT organizations call themselves the "10% Society."

    I've always wondered how much our distant primitive ancestors molded our present behavior. Some anthropological models suggest that proto-humans may have lived for hundreds of thousands of years with pronounced divisions of labor according to gender.

    Adult males spent a great deal of time away hunting together, while females remained near a settlement, either fixed or nomadic, along with the children and the elderly of both sexes. The male hunting groups, and the female domestic groups, might have engaged in homosexual practices among themselves, then resumed heterosexual mating activities whenever the males returned to the communal camp.

    This model would explain strong male bonding, especially under adverse circumstances, which today takes the form of armed conflict, and also organized sports. In fact, some anthropologists have theorized that most sports emulate the hunt, emphasizing throwing and coordinated chasing skills. If you substitute small game for a soccer ball, you get the idea.

    Therefore, humans may have evolved to be amenable to both homosexual and heterosexual relationships, based on situation. Such "situational homosexuality" may explain the high rate of gay encounters mentioned above during World War II, when men spent long periods together under adverse conditions, without ever seeing any women.

    At the same time, I believe there are totally gay men & women, who are not explained by this theory. Their evolutionary justification is more complex, and a topic for another post.